To wish we had someone like Mamdani in UK politics?

[LostInManhattan]

Someone who’s passionate, young and willing to break the rules in politics, all while caring about his city and the people in it. I wish we had someone like that here.

Especially the I have my suspicions response to which posters are bots on this thread. They could have said none.

And how many times have we been here? Thread after thread. People can't argue legitimately without resorting to calling people
bots or paid operatives. Does it happen on threads about any other subject? Not that I've seen. Funny how it neatly fits a longstanding antisemitic trope.

Fantasies are not hateful. Social democratic capitalism is not hateful.

Actual socialism is hateful because it fails.

Thanks for pointing out the bleeding obvious. Purism is not going to help us fight the evils of far right populism which is dying to 're-kitchen' all women, gut public services so that all caring duties in the community can only be delivered within families (ie. women) and probably turn abortion into a much bigger debate than it ever was here - because the script is written in the US, not here!

Meet me back here in a few years to discuss his record of success.

Do you know what the extreme right even looks like?

Mamdani is not the national Democratic party - Mamdani's policies are not identical to the anti-women shit-show that was the Dems manifesto vs Trump last year

Lots of people will be having sour grapes for breakfast this morning 😂
So glad Mamdani won!

Me too. I’m glad the hateful arseholes across the world will be angry this morning.

The absolute hypocrisy. Do you believe Palestine have a right to self determination and the right to exist? Do you believe Zionism gives the right for Israel to commit genocide, apartheid and oppression?

The definition of Zionism hasn't changed and by agreeing that the state of Israel has a right to exist would make you a Zionist.

What I think you are against (as am I) is the illegal expansion and occupation of Israeli settlements in the West Bank. This has nothing to do with Zionism and everything to do with certain political parties in Israel seeking an illegal land grab.

Israel did at least remove all illegal Israeli settlements in Gaza when they withdrew in 2005, however that move clearly didn't result in a peaceful relationship with Gaza.

Whilst the definition of the word Zionism hasn't changed, what has changed is that "anti Zionism" is being increasingly used as a code or cover word for anti semitism.

The fact that there were anti Israel demonstrations after the October 2023 attacks and before Israel went in to Gaza and demonstrations are continuing after the ceasefire plus there are no demonstrations against the horrors happening in Sudan right now, or the ethnic cleansing of 1.5 million Afghans by Pakistan must mean that there is something very different about the Israeli / Gaza conflict and that difference is that it involves Jews.

I also believe that the majority of the pro Palestine protesters are just innocent but uninformed useful idiots that are following the trending social media causes and chanting slogans they haven't thought through- like "Globalise the intifada" - why would anyone want to support the globalisation of terrorist attacks??

Jews voted for him … in large numbers. In fact him being antizionist worked for him.

Think you’ve got your people muddled up. Zack Goldsmith ran a racist campaign to be London mayor and he was very much rejected.

What is hypocritical? I was responding to a poster who said antizionism was not antisemitic, when of course, it often is. Yes to your first question. No to your second. Zionism is an idea. It doesn't confer rights.

Some people need to go and check the definition of zionism before preaching to others. The official definition of Zionism means to 'settle the land of Eretz Yisrael' that land encompasses all of the Palestinian territories.

Whilst the definition of the word Zionism hasn't changed, what has changed is that "anti Zionism" is being increasingly used as a code or cover word for anti semitism.

Nope. Just stop bombing kids, raping hostages, taking people’s home and killing their loved ones for decades. That’s why you get the roll eye when you try to say it’s antisemitism because the list of indictment is utterly, utterly long and abhorrent.

If only some of our UK MPs would say they'd focus on their constituency and not Gaza.

Ah sorry to have inconvenienced you and not ignored an entire genocide taking place.

We have the Gaza MPs and wannabe Gaza MPs who say horrible things about women, gays and Jewish people. We have the Muslim Brotherhood and Qatari and Iranian money which is sponsoring such politics and the hate campaigns on marches and campuses. We have the clannish, sectarian constituencies where political opponents are being physically threatened and having their tyres slashed. In short, we've already got more Mamdanis than New York.

Hypnotits Polanski is a charlatan who was happy to make money by taking advantage of the misogyny that depresses women over their body image.

Both of these men are over-privileged failed performers who just see politics as another route to fame. They are not statesmen; it was this or reality television.

Official? According to who?

Op, it was refreshing to listen and watch a decent and intelligent politician from America which is so rare these days.

That's a very interesting response to the many Jews in New York who have woken up this morning disturbed and apprehensive. A very good example of how Jews don't count. The fact that some Jews voted for him is iirrelevant. It can't be denied tbat some are very concerned. Why would you dismiss that, and dismiss it with such glee?

To be clear, I hate Trump. And I live in the UK so I don't really care what happens in a City I never intend to visit. I am REALLY not angry

I am sad that this result has increased the chances of the Republicans winning the next Presidency (although, to be fair, until the Dems come out in faour of LGB people, women, child safeguarding and evidence-based medicine I will probably still hope the Republican win, despite hating them).

Because Socialists are utterly appalling (or utterly clueless) people

According to the 'World Zionist Organisation' and the 'Jerusalem Programme'.

I'm sure you already know this Sharon but you still try to sanitise the definition to suit your narrative.

We have Sadiq Khan.

What has Mamdani said that Khan hasn't said?

Or are you just being ageist because Khan is older?

Ffs Sharon. What the hell are you talking about? Talk about twisting people's words.