New allegations against Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor

[Muffinmam]

Last night an episode of 60 Minutes (Australia) aired and an allegation was
made that it wasn’t just girls who were trafficked to Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor by Ghislane and Epstein - there were also young boys.

I’ve included the link below:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hk-9SfptZlU&pp=0gcJCR4Bo7VqN5tD

This allegation never made it into the book because the writer never had a second witness to concur. However, he revealed it in the 60 Minutes interview last night and 60 Minutes aired what is a defamatory allegation - which makes me think that 60 Minutes felt confident it was true (otherwise their lawyers would have killed the story). It was a very short reference but British Police need to interview Ghislane as to Andrew’s other victims.

Further, AIBU to think that the Royal Protection officers should be made to answer questions as to criminality involving Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor?

Also, how can Beatrice & Eugenie still support their disgusting father after everything we know? Do they not care about their own children? Particularly Beatrice’s young step son. Hopefully Andrew is not allowed anywhere near this boy.

That's interesting. How awful!

None of his siblings are anything like him, though - and I think Prince Charles had a really rough time of it from Prince Philip, because he was nothing like his dad. Much more sensitive and into studying and the natural world, matters of spirituality etc. rather than early morning runs and cold showers. The QM strongly thought that PC was much better suited to Eton, but PP insisted that he attend Gordonstoun, and he wasn't allowed to leave even when desperately unhappy. But PC doesn't go around doing the horrendously sleazy things that AMW has. Princess Anne and Edward are pretty upstanding, too. PC has been a one-woman man his whole life, and his only mistake was not marrying her in the first instance.

TAFKA Prince Andrew needs to go away forever. The other people mentioned in this thread need to be investigated and if found guilty, be incarcerated for a very long time.

I think it's unfair to blame AMB for VG's death. If she is to be believed then she was raped by her own father for years as a child, which I would imagine had a much more devastating long term affect on her than sleeping with a sweaty old prince three times.

Many babies were put outside to cry in their prams in the 1950s and 60s- it was the done thing and the air was thought to be good for them.

She was also abused by someone who gave her a lift, and also by a friend of her father's, and also by Ron Eppinger. (I read a sample of her book, and it was all in there.) Oh - and her husband apparently abused her physically too, and there was all that stuff about her losing access to her kids. Not to mention the Gruesome Twosome and all the people he coerced her into sleeping with, like the politician who attacked her and no one cared.

She also had a guilty conscience about recruiting other girls to the trafficking ring. She talked about that in an interview.

I do think AMW was a stich in the whole tapestry. But he wasn't the whole picture. However, the RF not taking enough action might have made her feel - yet again - that she didn't matter. I appreciate what Charles has done now, but it should have been done LONG ago. That stupid, blind Queen. I cannot believe that Virginia didn't live to see it. 💔 It's way too little, too late, and the RF should hang their heads in shame for not dealing with Andrew many, many years ago. They MUST have known what a boorish, arrogant twat he always was. There were eyewitnesses aplenty.

Andrew Lownie is a well respected historian. He has done extensive research.

I might get it. Is it good? I just read Tom Bowers book about the Beckhams and there was no let-up at all. It was depressing, the way the author had zero balance and not one positive thing to say. His tone was also really spiteful.

It's a very tired old coward's tactic from those who don't want any scrutiny and don't consider themselves accountable-- to label any criticism whatsoever, even the most cautious and tempered, as "a hatchet job" or "a hit piece."

Agree with this. There are many men who have been involved, who have got away with it because they have the privilege of money and power. Tapes and documents have been ‘lost’. The man with all the names, who had been backed into a corner and was probably prepared to take others down with him when appearing in court died, very conveniently. Prince Andrew is the tip of the iceberg here and he will absolutely have a lot of information that could take down a lot of the powerful and elite involved in all of this.

I agree. She was also a friend of the Queen. She was invited to various family and public events by the Queen even after PP's death. She was invited to the funerals of both. I don't believe she was anything more than a good friend/confidant.

Charles, much more sensitive!!! Don’t make me laugh: He and Camilla love watching foxes being torn apart and tried to lobby parliament to bring back fox hunting. He went off to meet Mrs Parker Bowles just after collecting Diana and baby Harry from hospital. He sounds like an arrogant pig to me.

Am not sure ‘Kanga’ etc would agree on PC but broadly, you’re right.

I'm so sorry you had to go through this. That sounds absolutely heart rending and it must be hard to process.

PP’s mistresses are mentioned factually by Lownie although not named & this isn’t contested.

I listened to it and it is well written, very well researched and absolutely jaw dropping especially the money that the pair of them burnt their way through. I tried keeping a running total in my head but it wasn't possible to keep track of the millions here, the 500k there, another few millon over in the corner and oh look here is God only knows how much for promoting some rubbish . Money in quantities that would be life changing for us common people trickled through their grasping fingers like melted ice cream, it is mind-blowing

Back in 2001 the news of the world had pages on Andrew being gay and in a relationship with Tony Slattery but you couldn’t out a gay person so they couldn’t run it. It was part of my media law training. Also included jimmy Saville sleeping with dead bodies but media couldn’t print as not enough evidence at the time.

He credits a woman who spent many years researching & deserves credit: Laura Burns. Maitlis largely based her PA interview on this & had only 72 hours to digest.

There’s apparently evidence re: a few senior Royals & bisexuality.

they could have called him Andrew Windsor. They have put the Mountbatten name on him. Lord Mountbatten - a known, prolific child abuser of young boys.

The relative remembered Anne and Charles as being kind and caring towards animals.

ETA The relative was very disappointed in the way that Charles treated Diana. (No, he wasn't working for the Royals at that time.)

Absolutely

Why would they put the Mountbatten name on him. Knowing what we know about him? Also, Charles adored that man. The prolific abuser of young boys. What on earth else can come out!

Sarah Ferguson broke their open marriage agreement by being caught and causing embarrassment.

They are an absolute shit show!!

They think Mountbatten is a grand name.s

Phil the Greek's girlfriend mentioned upthread is a Countess Mountbatten of a non-existent country.

What an inbred lot.