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Feminism sold a lie - Women, today, are worse off than ever

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ConservativeC2 · 28/10/2025 20:58

Listening to the women I work with, it's been interesting to hear their views about feminism and they are not happy. We are all millennial age so not too young, not too old and I keep hearing that it's the millennial generation of women that have absolutely lost out the most.

I think feminism initially promoted some idea of independence, equality and choice. Phrases like 'men hold all the money and power' at the time were very emotive whilst not entirely true. The correct statement then (and still now) is some men hold all the money and power. Most men back in the 50s-70s worked very long hours and spent pretty much all their money on their family. It was hard for everyone, but I think women were more empowered then than now.

In contrast to today, most of the women my age have to work. Whilst feminism promotes choice, most of them do not actually have a choice today. Most men today do not earn enough to run a household which means most women have to work. The worst part is they still do a larger share of the domestic work and childcare. So I think women now have it worse than ever - it's not just me, my female colleagues feel the same way. They've come to point in life where they want to start a family but they know they will have to come back to work.

Now it's all to do with feminism. There are other factors which has driven up the cost of living (inflation, property prices, profit extraction from multinational corporates etc).

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Chinsupmeloves · 27/02/2026 23:29

It absolutely important that women have the same opportunities as men and are able to, capable of and excel in careers to be financially independent. This is what has been encouraged for a long time in education and the workforce.

How can this ever be construed as not right?

Mrsnothingthanks · 27/02/2026 23:33

@Chinsupmeloves Agreed. But many women don't WANT to be financially independent?

pointythings · 28/02/2026 17:02

Mrsnothingthanks · 27/02/2026 23:33

@Chinsupmeloves Agreed. But many women don't WANT to be financially independent?

What evidence do you have for that statement?

Gettingbysomehow · 01/03/2026 10:51

All can say is THANK GOD I am financially independent or I would have been well and truly stuffed when I divorced husband no 1 and husband no 2 just walked out without explanation after a 20 year marriage.
You just cannot trust men these days. To give up your career in marriage is absolute suicide. Todays men do not want to support a woman and children. I dont want to support a man who does't work either.
When I was a child back in the 60's it was the norm to be a housewife. It isnt any more.
Its very difficult to manage on one salary for most families.
Id never put myself or DS in the position where I couldn't support us.

PermanentTemporary · 01/03/2026 12:20

I don’t think any woman would actively choose not to be financially independent as a goal in itself (outside a few weirdos in bizarre kink relationships or something). But you might make other choices/have other priorities that result in being dependent. Very risky thing to do.

Mrsnothingthanks · 01/03/2026 14:05

@pointythings @PermanentTemporary What about permanent SAHMs?

Mrsnothingthanks · 01/03/2026 14:09

@Gettingbysomehow I fully respect that you would never want to support a man who doesn't work - neither would I.
On that note, do you think it's reasonable for a man to support a woman who doesn't work?

Isthateveryonethen · 01/03/2026 14:12

BluntPlumHam · 28/10/2025 21:14

I agree with you op. There is a growing trend of men looking for financial partners rather than just partners which is down to a lot of factors but often the ‘you wanted equality’ is thrown in your face when you question the 50/50 guys. There is a thread right now where op’s bf has her splitting coffees and lunch down the middle.

In the very same way, women looking for men to share the financial load ?

Mrsnothingthanks · 01/03/2026 14:26

@BluntPlumHam I absolutely want equality; I don't want to live off a man.

Piaff · 01/03/2026 14:32

My goodness, no things are not perfect but my goodness they are better. It’s just not over yet.

Women born before you faced the following;

  1. Rape was legal within marriage

  2. Married women often faced challenges in obtaining loans, as many banks required them to have authorisation from their husbands to open accounts.

  3. Legal restrictions limited married women's financial independence.

  4. Employers would dismiss women who became pregnant, as there were no protections against dismissal due to pregnancy.

  5. See Advert below…….Things are not worse now

Feminism sold a lie - Women, today, are worse off than ever
pointythings · 01/03/2026 14:33

Mrsnothingthanks · 01/03/2026 14:05

@pointythings @PermanentTemporary What about permanent SAHMs?

Edited

I have no problem with that situation if both partners in the relationship agree to it and continue to agree to it even once the DC are school age/secondary age/have left home. It's an agreement between two people and so nobody else's business.

The key thing is choice. It used to be the case that when a woman married, her employer expected her to give up work. If not then, then when she had a child. Women had no choice about that, because it was legal to sack someone for no good reason. Nobody wants to go back to that.

If women want to be SAHM forever, they can - but they do need to be aware of the risks. It is a good thing that we live in an age when women are not forced by circumstance to take those risks.

pointythings · 01/03/2026 14:35

Mrsnothingthanks · 01/03/2026 14:26

@BluntPlumHam I absolutely want equality; I don't want to live off a man.

Same. If I were ever in a relationship again (frankly I'm more likely to choose the bear, but still), I would have no problem with going 50/50 on meals and drinks, or alternating who pays.

Mrsnothingthanks · 01/03/2026 14:45

@pointythings Exactly what we do in our marriage, and have done since Date One.
I did have dates with other men whom "insisted" on paying - I stood my ground of course. I then declined any offer of a second date as I don't like forceful misogynists.
My now husband absolutely respected the fact that I asked to share the drinks costs on our first date as he'd been on dates with women where it was an expectation he paid. Even for full meals on a first date.
I'm pleased he binned them off, too!!

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