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£15bn on hotels?

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wineandagoodbook · 27/10/2025 08:16

While Rachel Reeves is trying to find £10-£30 billion by more taxes, we are spending £15bn on hotels for asylum seekers, it beggars beyond belief

news.sky.com/story/home-office-needs-to-get-a-grip-on-asylum-seeker-accommodation-after-chaotic-response-mps-say-13458475

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Bagsintheboot · 27/10/2025 16:57

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/10/2025 16:49

Of course you bloody would. Being ploughed into a COL crisis by decades of incompetent governments is a disgrace and now we have another lot of idiots in charge. This lot seen to be the worst of all though as they are convinced they are the good guys 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️. Lord help us.

The COL crisis is rather larger than the UK and is a global consequence of a number of factors, most significantly the economic shockwaves of COVID and the ongoing war in Ukraine which has disrupted the wests oil supplies from Russia. There has been a global increase in the rate of inflation and interest.

It's sadly something which is beyond the abilities of any one government to fix.

WilfredsPies · 27/10/2025 16:57

TopPocketFind · 27/10/2025 14:49

Are you denying the boat crossings started because of Brexit?

😂 Are you serious? You actually think that someone left their country, potentially travelled through countries which were most definitely not safe, like Libya, evaded the authorities in various EU countries, got to Calais to be told that the UK is no longer in some random (and completely irrelevant to them) trade agreement with Europe, and you think their response will be ‘bugger, I was too late. Ok, I’ll claim asylum here instead’? Please tell me you’re joking and that’s not something you really believe?

We spent millions and millions of pounds moving Border staff to France, installing x Ray machines, improving technology and hiring more staff. It got harder and harder to get people to the UK via lorry and so the numbers of lorry arrivals started to drop and boat arrivals started to rise.

Bagsintheboot · 27/10/2025 17:01

WilfredsPies · 27/10/2025 16:57

😂 Are you serious? You actually think that someone left their country, potentially travelled through countries which were most definitely not safe, like Libya, evaded the authorities in various EU countries, got to Calais to be told that the UK is no longer in some random (and completely irrelevant to them) trade agreement with Europe, and you think their response will be ‘bugger, I was too late. Ok, I’ll claim asylum here instead’? Please tell me you’re joking and that’s not something you really believe?

We spent millions and millions of pounds moving Border staff to France, installing x Ray machines, improving technology and hiring more staff. It got harder and harder to get people to the UK via lorry and so the numbers of lorry arrivals started to drop and boat arrivals started to rise.

Pretty much this.

Pre-Brexit, much lighter customs checks. Easier to hide in lorries etc.

Post-Brexit, huge checks. No longer a viable way for the people smuggling gangs to move large numbers of people.

Hence small boat crossings.

EasternStandard · 27/10/2025 17:01

WilfredsPies · 27/10/2025 16:57

😂 Are you serious? You actually think that someone left their country, potentially travelled through countries which were most definitely not safe, like Libya, evaded the authorities in various EU countries, got to Calais to be told that the UK is no longer in some random (and completely irrelevant to them) trade agreement with Europe, and you think their response will be ‘bugger, I was too late. Ok, I’ll claim asylum here instead’? Please tell me you’re joking and that’s not something you really believe?

We spent millions and millions of pounds moving Border staff to France, installing x Ray machines, improving technology and hiring more staff. It got harder and harder to get people to the UK via lorry and so the numbers of lorry arrivals started to drop and boat arrivals started to rise.

Tg, the same question on this with each thread. I hope they read and take it in.

randomchap · 27/10/2025 17:02

JoyintheMorning · 27/10/2025 16:13

Could we not keep them in camps of dormitories behind barbed wire fences. Feed them on chick peas and chicken.900Calories a day. Give them the raw food, they cook it for themselves. It would keep them busy.

Concentrate them together in camps?

OneDearWasp · 27/10/2025 17:04

Lots here suggesting voters will turn away from the two parties who've been in power for 15 years.

Yes, very likely.

But a hefty chunk will go to Greens and Libdems (plus national(ist) parties in Scotland and Wales). Will make predicting under first past the post system impossible.

EasternStandard · 27/10/2025 17:04

randomchap · 27/10/2025 17:02

Concentrate them together in camps?

You like Labour don’t you? They are proposing this.

ChessBess · 27/10/2025 17:04

randomchap · 27/10/2025 17:02

Concentrate them together in camps?

The ones the military use….

WilfredsPies · 27/10/2025 17:06

JoyintheMorning · 27/10/2025 16:19

Barracks or Nissen huts Keep them contained. That will reduce the attraction of UK.
Denmark solved their problem. We could solve ours.
@EasternStandard Why wont it work?

Do you remember a couple of years ago when migrants were housed in former barracks in Folkestone? Napier Barracks I believe it was. Basic, yes, but perfectly clean and serviceable. You might want to Google how that worked out.

Whatafustercluck · 27/10/2025 17:07

WilfredsPies · 27/10/2025 14:10

@Bagsintheboot @Whatafustercluck

Leaving the Dublin Agreement didn’t make the slightest bit of difference. The stats are publically available if you want to fact check.

Apologies for any spelling mistakes, I’m typing this without my glasses on, so it’s all a bit of a blur.

These stats? The ones that show the massive increase post-Brexit?

£15bn on hotels?
OneDearWasp · 27/10/2025 17:08

There has been mismanagement of the accommodation budget. IF cost is the issue then quicker processing, perhaps with temporary permission to work pending final decision for mugrants from those countries where 90%+ are given asylum, would solve the issue.

randomchap · 27/10/2025 17:10

EasternStandard · 27/10/2025 17:04

You like Labour don’t you? They are proposing this.

Not the 900 calorie starvation diet they are not

Whatafustercluck · 27/10/2025 17:10

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 27/10/2025 14:41

@Whatafustercluck , The Conservatives were justifiably kicked out; Labour came in to office promising the earth and have failed to deliver their exit can’t come soon enough. No one absolutely no one is taken in by their policy of blaming everyone else for their endless list of failures.

They didn't promise the earth at all. In fact, people were frustrated with their lack of commitment to policies pre-election. Keir Starmer was viewed by many not to have promised enough.

EasternStandard · 27/10/2025 17:13

randomchap · 27/10/2025 17:10

Not the 900 calorie starvation diet they are not

I see so the camp part is ok?

Bumblebee72 · 27/10/2025 17:14

Maybe they should put them in Butlins - after a week they would be swimming back.

TopPocketFind · 27/10/2025 17:18

Farage boats is still upsetting people

Thanks Ed

EasternStandard · 27/10/2025 17:19

TopPocketFind · 27/10/2025 17:18

Farage boats is still upsetting people

Thanks Ed

I think you’re the only one using it tbf

TopPocketFind · 27/10/2025 17:27

EasternStandard · 27/10/2025 17:19

I think you’re the only one using it tbf

It's too good not to use.

I have shared reports on how Brexit is a factor in the increase of small boats, Tories have admitted to it.

But let's keep pretending it has nothing to do with Brexit.

I am starting to wonder if posters actually want the boat crossings stopped, demonising asylum seekers seems to be very popular.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/10/2025 17:28

Bagsintheboot · 27/10/2025 16:54

Free healthcare - you get that too. The difference is that they can't make NI payments since they're not allowed to work.

Free food and accomodation - well yes they kind of have to get that since, again, they're not allowed to work.

Access to entertainment and amenities - again, we all have that too. They just have a max budget of £49 / week to spend on everything that isn't food / accommodation.

she said ‘just give him what he wants How exactly did she know what he wanted if he spoke no English, had no paperwork or documentation?

Because he had a prescription in his hand!

I honestly don’t care about the rest of your sob story. I am not responsible for all the men in Syria and Iran, nor the men of Sudanese and the Congo. I don’t care that they are desperate to work and pay their National insurance contributions and I don’t care that they might not think much of the food or the weather or the hospitality.

EasternStandard · 27/10/2025 17:30

TopPocketFind · 27/10/2025 17:27

It's too good not to use.

I have shared reports on how Brexit is a factor in the increase of small boats, Tories have admitted to it.

But let's keep pretending it has nothing to do with Brexit.

I am starting to wonder if posters actually want the boat crossings stopped, demonising asylum seekers seems to be very popular.

Sure. I don’t mind if Labour think this will do it. It won’t help them at the next GE.

If it’s bad lines against rising Channel crossings they’ll struggle.

suburburban · 27/10/2025 17:30

Bagsintheboot · 27/10/2025 16:41

There are huge logistical challenges with using large, securely contained sites like barracks.

For one, we don't have lots of sites like that in a usable condition sitting, well, unused. To bring an abandoned complex up to scratch is a huge outlay. Secondly, they tend to be surprisingly low-density accommodation given the size of the site and are therefore not very efficient. Thirdly, it is logistically more costly to supply and maintain these sites and they are not always easy to access for e.g. court visits.

The use of hotels has arisen because these buildings are in good condition, provide a high density of accommodation, are usually in central areas where it's easy to supply catering, security, get the residents to court, doctors appts etc, and because there have been an awful lot of hotels closing in recent years these buildings are quite commonly available on the open market and are cheap for what they are.

Then they get trashed

why do they need wonderful accommodation in the first place. What do they get in other countries?

student accommodation is often really grotty and the students or their parents have to pay for it

Iwantmyoldnameback · 27/10/2025 17:30

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/10/2025 17:28

Because he had a prescription in his hand!

I honestly don’t care about the rest of your sob story. I am not responsible for all the men in Syria and Iran, nor the men of Sudanese and the Congo. I don’t care that they are desperate to work and pay their National insurance contributions and I don’t care that they might not think much of the food or the weather or the hospitality.

Edited

So you mad up the rest of the scenario then?

Bagsintheboot · 27/10/2025 17:30

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/10/2025 17:28

Because he had a prescription in his hand!

I honestly don’t care about the rest of your sob story. I am not responsible for all the men in Syria and Iran, nor the men of Sudanese and the Congo. I don’t care that they are desperate to work and pay their National insurance contributions and I don’t care that they might not think much of the food or the weather or the hospitality.

Edited

So he did have the right paperwork for the medication then? So why shouldn't the pharmacist just give him what he wants (or in other words, why don't they fill the prescription)?

There's also no sob story in my post. Just the facts of the matter.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/10/2025 17:32

Iwantmyoldnameback · 27/10/2025 17:30

So you mad up the rest of the scenario then?

I made up absolutely nothing but it’s interesting to me that you think it might be made up because that’s easier isn’t it? Ah the system isn’t broken because that has to be a made up story. Nope. Sorry. You are going to have to suck up the nasty, smelly truth. Yes it stinks.