£15bn on hotels?

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While Rachel Reeves is trying to find £10-£30 billion by more taxes, we are spending £15bn on hotels for asylum seekers, it beggars beyond belief

news.sky.com/story/home-office-needs-to-get-a-grip-on-asylum-seeker-accommodation-after-chaotic-response-mps-say-13458475

Touche!
Doesn't make all refugees criminals, and doesn't mean they should be treated as such.

There is a no-penalty break clause for most of the contracts, beginning March 2026. The Home Affairs Committee warned that current ministers have shown "little clarity regarding the basis on which they will make a decision on using the break clause".

I don’t think they should be locked up, I think that was what you were responding to, perhaps another poster.

I do think there’s a better system where we don’t have such chaos and lack of safety.

Apologies.
And I agree, the system needs revising.
Though in this specific case I'd imagine it has as much to do with poor mental health services and poverty as it does the asylum system (based on the scant details the press have given us).

Originality really goes to die in a corner when people start copy pasting your own replies back to you.

Try harder.

As per my reply to the previous poster, between 6 and 16% were being processed for transfer out by the UK under the DA. That's between 6 and 16% more than are currently, at zero. And as I've also said, accepting your point that there are known problems with the DA, even when the EU's new system comes into place next year, we won't benefit from that either now.

@CorneliaCupp the very first job of any government is to protect it's citizens

So they must simply do that and stop qllowing an endless throng of unvetted men in

I agree.
However, unvetted does not equal dangerous.

Unvetted = unknown .

That's enough.

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

You do understand that those who passed through Ellis island had rigourous checks done ?in all sorts of ways ?
It was a processing island and if you failed the checks you did not stay.

Freedom .what does freedom mean to many people fleeing here with extremely right wing views on religion ?

@randomchapwhen you quote this are you saying bring people nearby?

Eg you’d say yes to a barracks near to you and if you are as your name suggests do you have DDs who would be nearby too?

It's from a poem engraved at the bottom of the statue of liberty. The New Colossus

I was enjoying the irony

Much like the people in the hotels are being processed then?

Disgusting, and they took the Winter fuel allowance away last year. Say no more. Says it all.

Ik I’m still interested does this mean you relate to the poem and would be fine with barracks near you?

Not really. The existence of the barracks, hotels etc are proof of a system that isn't working.

They should be processed ASAP, rather than hang about whatever accommodation.

Oh yes ,and how do they get processed when they have delibertly destroyed papers ? Lie about their age ,bacKground and needs.

America is a huge country that mostly wanted a lot of immigration at that time.

We should as we have always done in the UK provide support to poor huddled people of the vulnerable variety not great strapping men and those who are also grateful and want to integrate.

You’re genuinely not getting it, are you?

We may have been transferring 6-16% out of the UK under Dublin, but that doesn’t really help us when significantly higher numbers were being transferred into the UK under Dublin, does it? And yes, we’re currently transferring zero numbers out of the UK, but we’re also accepting zero numbers into the UK.

I don’t know how else to explain it to you without using toddler level maths, so I give up. I can only assume it’s down to a lingering anger over Brexit and a steely determination to accept that anything resulting from it could have benefited the UK in any way. Have a lovely afternoon.

But until they have been processed they are therefore unknown, and they are free to wander within communities and cause trouble. From reports by locals, the police seem reluctant to deal with them and it only gets highlighted when they have committed a serious crime and the authorities aren’t quick enough to suppress the news. There were even initial attempts to suppress the asylum seeker status of the man who murdered Rhiannon.

He wasn’t initially reported as being from an asylum seeker hotel, just his address was mentioned, which a citizen journalist investigated and found to be an asylum seeker hotel.

The government and parts of the media, including the BBC, cannot be trusted to be honest on this. When people know they are being lied to it increases feelings of tension and anger.

So we need to put pressure on the government to speed up the asylum process, so that people aren't in these hotels for extended periods of time and can either begin to work and integrate into society, or be deported if their claims are refused.
This system is not the fault of asylum seekers.

Processing isn’t really what it’s billed as anyway. The checks won’t cover anything outside their remit and given the nature of the political states where people are coming from that will be a lot.

Processing is checking a few databases they are likely to be outside of and doing an interview, maybe two. It’s not possible to vet with the asylum system as it is.

Of course it bloody does. Unvetted is dangerous, that's why we have safeguarding laws.

Some of these murders and rapes are so vicious, there's not a chance its the first violent crime they ever committed, why are the British public being pressured to ignore this increased risk to us?

This is a very good question.

Another good question is why are people pretending that there is any kind of vetting?

Take the Somalian asylum seeker who's just been convicted of murdering Gurvinder Johal. He had a previous conviction for robbery in Italy as well as police records in other EU countries. He spent his time here drinking and threatening to murder 500 people.

We are not doing even the most basic of vetting.