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£15bn on hotels?

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wineandagoodbook · 27/10/2025 08:16

While Rachel Reeves is trying to find £10-£30 billion by more taxes, we are spending £15bn on hotels for asylum seekers, it beggars beyond belief

news.sky.com/story/home-office-needs-to-get-a-grip-on-asylum-seeker-accommodation-after-chaotic-response-mps-say-13458475

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Bumblebee72 · 28/10/2025 13:30

Starconundrum · 28/10/2025 13:26

Benefits are just over £400 per calender month. Noone on them is living a life of luxury.

Plus the rent contributions, plus council reductions, plus free school meals. plus free dentistry plus plus plus. It all adds up to a very easy life for those who can't be arsed to do anything productive. Not luxury but easy.

EasternStandard · 28/10/2025 13:47

Bumblebee72 · 28/10/2025 13:09

It didn't, though did it? What the pandemic did was make an awful lot of people realise that living on the state is pretty easy. They got used to spending the day on the xbox. Cut benefits by 50% and a remarkable number of people will suddenly decide that they can actually work.

It is hard to go from shutting people out of work to getting them back. The bill is growing and unsustainable though.

JenniferBooth · 28/10/2025 14:12

Bumblebee72 · 28/10/2025 13:09

It didn't, though did it? What the pandemic did was make an awful lot of people realise that living on the state is pretty easy. They got used to spending the day on the xbox. Cut benefits by 50% and a remarkable number of people will suddenly decide that they can actually work.

And see compliance fall through the floor next time there is a pandemic. Ppl were TOLD to stay home and not work.

BundleBoogie · 28/10/2025 14:14

Shakeoffyourchains · 28/10/2025 12:39

They’re not insinuations. The right are well versed in dressing up their hate behind seemingly inert words and phrases. Illegals, fighting age men, British values, Christian Country, etc., etc, all used to strip away people’s humanity and other them. “Incomers” is just another attempt at that.

I mean, why did they even need to distinguish in that reply? Why not just say 18.2 million people arrived and 10 million left? What’s the purpose of adding that label of incomers unless it’s to mark people as “other”?

So we have large numbers of men illegally entering our country, some who are actual terrorists, rapists and murders and a number are actively hostile to our way of life but we’re not even allowed to call them ‘incomers’??

Are we allowed to call the man from Sudan who stabbed Rhiannon Whyte in the head 23 times in a ‘frenzied attack’ an incomer? What about ‘not one of us’? Is that allowed in your rather draconian aim to silence essential conversation on the issue?

suburburban · 28/10/2025 14:21

most people don’t hate them. There are nuances of language

i would rather they didn’t come especially when they won’t adapt to our way of life and are costing a lot of money

OneDearWasp · 28/10/2025 14:22

Bumblebee72 · 28/10/2025 13:30

Plus the rent contributions, plus council reductions, plus free school meals. plus free dentistry plus plus plus. It all adds up to a very easy life for those who can't be arsed to do anything productive. Not luxury but easy.

These threads don't half evolve....

There was a programme years ago where an MP tried to live on UB and wasn't able to. It would be really hard especially once any number of consumer electricals broke.

£400 for food and utilities. Sounds doable short term. But no TV, internet, phone, car, clothes, etc etc. It should be that working full time should significantly increase comfort levels. That people don't must have a huge variety of reasons beyond just laziness.

Questionablmouse · 28/10/2025 15:16

Bumblebee72 · 28/10/2025 13:09

It didn't, though did it? What the pandemic did was make an awful lot of people realise that living on the state is pretty easy. They got used to spending the day on the xbox. Cut benefits by 50% and a remarkable number of people will suddenly decide that they can actually work.

I think you need to look at the worldwide statistics around long COVID.

suburburban · 28/10/2025 15:22

SpaceRaccoon · 28/10/2025 15:19

Just going to leave this here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ypkd57n97o

just awful

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 15:24

SpaceRaccoon · 28/10/2025 15:19

Just going to leave this here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ypkd57n97o

Absolutely horrendous.

Was the perpetrator an asylum seeker? If not, how is this linked to the op?

SpaceRaccoon · 28/10/2025 15:26

Was the perpetrator an asylum seeker? If not, how is this linked to the op?

It's in the article. 22 year old Afghan national.

suburburban · 28/10/2025 15:28

SpaceRaccoon · 28/10/2025 15:26

Was the perpetrator an asylum seeker? If not, how is this linked to the op?

It's in the article. 22 year old Afghan national.

That area is Hillingdon and it used to be a nice residential area.

why is this government or previous governments hellbent on destroying our way of life

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 15:30

SpaceRaccoon · 28/10/2025 15:26

Was the perpetrator an asylum seeker? If not, how is this linked to the op?

It's in the article. 22 year old Afghan national.

That doesn't tell me about their immigration status though.

SpaceRaccoon · 28/10/2025 15:32

That doesn't tell me about their immigration status though.

I'm sure they were a doctor or an engineer.

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 15:34

SpaceRaccoon · 28/10/2025 15:32

That doesn't tell me about their immigration status though.

I'm sure they were a doctor or an engineer.

What does that have to do with anything?

ChessBess · 28/10/2025 16:21

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 15:30

That doesn't tell me about their immigration status though.

Why does their immigration status matter?

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 16:25

ChessBess · 28/10/2025 16:21

Why does their immigration status matter?

Edited

Because this is a thread about asylum hotels.
Generally speaking it doesn't matter at all, but it does matter in the context of this thread.

EasternStandard · 28/10/2025 17:13

SpaceRaccoon · 28/10/2025 15:19

Just going to leave this here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ypkd57n97o

That is awful. He was trying to help and this happened. It’s horrendous.

BundleBoogie · 28/10/2025 18:34

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 16:25

Because this is a thread about asylum hotels.
Generally speaking it doesn't matter at all, but it does matter in the context of this thread.

If he’s described as an ‘Afghan National’, he clearly hasn’t been here for long. Given his age, he is clearly not a doctor (as some pro immigration types like to claim about all migrants) and he is unlikely to be on any kind of essential worker visa. I guess he could be here on a student visa or he could be an asylum seeker straight off a small boat and into a hotel.

It’s not as relevant as the fact that he has come here and murdered an innocent man. Like the young migrant from Sudan murdered an innocent woman. We need to stop men who hate us and want to kill us entering and residing in our country. We need to stop the hate preachers and radical hate preachers who actively hate us and advocate stoning women and murdering us en masse. The government need to work out how to achieve that. If they have the will. I’m not sure they care enough.

Iwantmyoldnameback · 28/10/2025 18:48

Did the Tories have a Fast Lane for hotel owners like the PPE farce?

StripyHorse · 28/10/2025 18:57

Have a look at Serco, Mears and Clearsprings Ready Homes and their lucrative contracts. Providing the minimum for maximum cost. Boris Johnson's government Sioned off on those contracts in 2019 and the Home Office is locked in to them until 2029.

sleepwouldbenice · 28/10/2025 19:11

SpaceRaccoon · 28/10/2025 15:19

Just going to leave this here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ypkd57n97o

Of course this is horrific
So is this
news.sky.com/story/man-charged-over-racially-aggravated-rape-in-walsall-13459304

SpaceRaccoon · 28/10/2025 20:08

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 16:25

Because this is a thread about asylum hotels.
Generally speaking it doesn't matter at all, but it does matter in the context of this thread.

He arrived in 2020 on the back of a lorry, so yes an asylum seeker.

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 20:11

SpaceRaccoon · 28/10/2025 20:08

He arrived in 2020 on the back of a lorry, so yes an asylum seeker.

No. A refugee.

EasternStandard · 28/10/2025 20:13

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 20:11

No. A refugee.

The checks listed in earlier discussion didn’t flag anything.