To ask you to swerve Shein & Temu

[DoNoTakeNo]

This Christmas?
I know it’s mainly a cost thing but if it’s achievable, can people possibly manage with less stuff?

Same products, same factories. You disputed my evidence, so now I am asking for yours. Should be easy right?

You didn't provide any evidence for me to dispute.

Well put your hand in your pocket. If I'm passing the Works I pop in and buy pencils 40 , ream of paper and other bits in bulk for my grandkids class. Quite a few parents do too. One mum blagged a load of stuff from Asda last week.

There's no money spare in our school these days.

Ok keep buying your Christmas decorations from M&S rather than Temu if it makes you feel smug and that you are honestly making a difference. That will really set the history books on fire 🙄

FYI, I do. I volunteer at my DCs school weekly, and although they can fortunately afford pencils, I do spend a fair chunk of money helping stock the library and time working with the PTA. I'm not talking out of my arse thanks.

Is this a response to my comment explaining the slight but important improvements if we buy cheap crap from supermarkets instead of temu? I guess you don’t want to retreat from your attempted gotcha of oh no but where do the jobs go, but it’s a bit pathetic if so.

Yes I agree with that, the virtue signallers always seem to think that their own foibles about earthy or political matters are not quite as bad as yours., they make mistakes or poor choices but they're not as bad or evil as yours. They cant or wont stop doing their poor choices but you must stop yours.

'Couple of flights a year, well Im not perfect but I dont go as low as buying from Shein you must be a horrific person!'

I think you replied to the wrong person so probably want to remove that post

I also use it for costuming for theatre shows. Often it’s a vintage-style outfit I need, and being on the larger side, not many vintage outfits are made in my dimensions.
For example for the last show I was in, I needed a 1940s skirt suit, a 1960s dress and a 1920s outfit. The 20s I managed to get from vinted, but the other two outfits were Temu, as they had size 22, which I couldn’t get anywhere else.
They will go into a “dressing up box” where I keep all my costumes and next time I need a 1960s dress, I will already have one.

If they had the money to be buying better quality stuff with no safety issues and no slave labour/ data harvesting stuff, then don’t you think they would be doing exactly that?

Well no. Because data shows that the average Temu/Shein shopper is spending considerable sums on the sites and is not on the bones of their arse financially. And lots of people cannot look beyond the fact things are cheap.

Agree.

I never order from either of them, this is for ethical reasons for me.
I can, however, see the allure. I was looking to buy something as gifts for a group of people, I could find exactly what I wanted at such a cheap price from Temu, far cheaper than I could find anywhere else. I didn't buy them and sourced different gifts elsewhere, it cost more and I couldn't get as much for the amount of money I spent.
It's so cheap and you get a lot for your money. With the COL crisis we still want things that we may struggle to afford, this way we can get them. It's shit that it's this or nothing for lots of people.

And do those stats differentiate between my skint people who would like more than two summer tops and your people who have the cash to fly twice a year but just like a bargain?

Clearly nothing urgent then, you just wanted some shite to add to all your other shite

You can ask but you won’t get far with us consumerist sheeple, we just need the latest thing cheap, baaaaa!

I teach secondary. I am not force feeding my GCSE and alevel students pencils 🙄

Forced Labour, prisoner Labour, child Labour, awful environmental impact…. I could go on but you do you, dangerous ( chemicals used, safety standards not met ) etc

I think the presumption has been all schools with no money are primary and therefore I have been force feeding 5 year olds poisonous lead pencils. I mention pencils as ONE of the things I purchase from Temu. Also I teach GCSE and Alevel - many of whom have their own pencil cases full of Temu purchased stationary!

This makes no sense when the ethical option of not buying random shite or buying second hand, swapping etc. literally costs less.

I did ask what you buy, twice. As did another poster. You said pencils and display borders. We can only respond to the information you provide. What else do you buy?

You sound like your having a bad day.

I've often thought about this - I have a friend who regularly buys from Shein because it's "the only place" she can afford to shop at. Yet her wardrobe is heaving and she often spends £50 a go. £50 would instead buy one nice item every now and again. She often says it won't matter if something only lasts a season because it's only £10.

There was no fast fashion 30 years sgo, and people didn't walk around naked cause they could afford clothes from "regular". They just had less and that should be normalised. I got two shopping trips a year with my mum and a few new items each times. It all fit into a single wardrobe and it was enough.

There absolutely was fast fashion/style and beauty products 30 years ago, 60 years ago for gods sake. Throw away nails, earrings, eye lashes, tights would only usually last one wear, that sort of thing. Was no one a teen in the 80s?

I was a teenager in the late 90s and I don't remember anyone getting 10 tops for $50, or doing weekly hauls. The fashion cycle also didn't pump out new products weekly or even daily like Shein now does. You could go to the shops in September and still find the same item there in November. And stuff lasted.

What’s the difference buying from there ? .Compared to a uk shop that buys it from china and sells it for double the price ?. Just because you buy something in the UK doesn’t mean it made here, most things are made in china.