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To think that if a high school theater department can do three shows a year, one should be a dramatic play and there shouldn’t be two musical plays?

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YankSplaining · 22/10/2025 17:42

20+ years ago when I was a teenager, I did theater through my school, which is an American private school. (It was a joint theater department with another private school nearby.) I follow the theater department on social media, and I saw that this year, they’re doing a fall musical, a winter dance production, and a spring musical. The fall musical is based on children’s books that my kids like, and although ideally I’d like to take them to see the show, I feel frustrated and a little angry that they’re doing two musicals.

When I started high school, it was understood that the fall play was always a dramatic one without singing roles. I have absolutely no vocal talent, but I was excited to have the chance to try out for the fall productions.

My first year of high school, I was called back for the second round of auditions for the fall play, but the part I was being considered for went to a senior (last year of high school). That was okay with me. I joined the set crew. My second year of high school, the director broke with decades of tradition and announced that we were doing a fall musical as well as a spring musical. I was disappointed, but, once again, was on set crew.

My third year of high school, we had a dramatic play again and I was cast in a supporting role. Three scenes, two costumes, chance to do an accent - great experience and fun memories. (I even started dating another cast member who’s now my husband of thirteen years. 😁)

My fourth and last year of high school, the dramatic play had a tiny cast with only five roles. As with my first year of high school, I auditioned, went through to the second round, and was not cast. Prior to that, I’d been involved in every show but one, but I just felt burned out with the whole thing. I sat out any involvement with the fall and winter shows, though I came back to do set crew for the spring musical because it was my last chance to work on a production with my friends.

I was not owed any roles, but I joined high school theater with the understanding that I got four chances to try to be in a fall play. Instead, I got three, which felt more like two and a half because the cast of the senior year fall play was so small. (The other fall plays had casts of a dozen or more.) Am I wrong to think that if a school theater department has the ability to do three productions a year, there should be one dramatic play and not two musicals? It’s a different skill set, and even if I didn’t “make the team,” I wanted the chance to try for it. The adults who ran the department while I was in high school are all still there in their same jobs, FWIW, and have a lot of experience putting on dramatic plays.

I don’t usually dwell on things from high school, but, as I said before, they’re doing two musicals this year and that’s brought all my old feelings up to the surface.

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YankSplaining · 23/10/2025 13:45

@TheatreMom “People here keep talking about ticket sales, and I agree with the OP that this probably isn't a concern. My daughter went to a public school and there was never any issue selling out the performances.”

From a financial perspective, ticket sales are definitely not a concern. As an alum, I get the school news magazine that gets sent out a few times a year, and there’s always a long list in the back of people who’ve recently donated money to the school. Add that to the high tuition fees, and we are definitely not talking about a situation of, “Oh, it looks like we’ve got to do a musical if we want to raise enough money to do our next production.” This is a very well-funded theater program.

And, as I stated earlier in the thread, it’s a fairly small auditorium.

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YankSplaining · 23/10/2025 13:49

Witchcraftandhokum · 23/10/2025 12:16

Get a teaching degree and go and teach drama and spend the many unpaid and thankless working hours organising a school production needs, or stop whining about productions you have no vested interest in.

In this situation, the adults who run the theater department do so as their full-time jobs. There’s no “teaching drama” because it’s solely an extracurricular. They’ve held these positions for around thirty years, so I’m guessing they don’t find it thankless.

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BonfireNight1993 · 23/10/2025 13:51

I totally agree with you, but this is a very niche AIBU! My school did some fantastic straight plays, often things which had recently been on at the Royal Court, which parents were largely horrified by. It meant that the drama department had an amazing reputation and that non singers got to enjoy drama and take part.

Skybluepinky · 23/10/2025 13:51

Musicals are much more enjoyable to most, so sounds perfect.

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 23/10/2025 13:59

RhaenysRocks · 22/10/2025 17:56

I know what you're getting at. A musical EXCLUDES those who can't sing but maybe amazing actors. A dramatic play is in fact open to anyone interested in stage performance. My DD falls into the first category (she can but prefers very much not to sing). By having a variety of shows, it widens the options. I don't think ticket sales should come into it for a school theatre .

Not true... There are non singing roles in musicals.

Also more kids can be involved in musicals. And often more technically demanding for the actual production so needing more backstage team

Also if you can hold a tune there's always chorus work

Skintone · 23/10/2025 14:09

Did you leave school very recently, OP?

Otherwise, I do think that ‘musicals’ have become (to me, weirdly) synonymous with ‘theatre’ for many people, particularly those who are not regular theatre-goers. In London these days, the most bankable West End shows are virtually all musicals, and for many people, going to London for a weekend and ‘seeing a show’ automatically means a musical. Now that many US shows are starting in London rather than NY, I imagine the same is true in the US.

So I suspect that ‘theatre’ departments are changing their emphasis to match.

(I can sing but can’t act at all, so used to get cast a million years ago in school musicals with the directors groaning and saying things like ‘You’d be perfect as Maria or Eliza Doolittle if they didn’t involve you having to do anything except stand and sing — can’t you just try?.’ and then sourly casting me as the Reverend Mother in TSoM and Nancy in Oliver!. I was an excellent Reverend Mother, because I only appeared for one scene, looked vaguely spiritual, had one great song, and vanished again apart from one line.)

Algen · 23/10/2025 14:18

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 23/10/2025 13:59

Not true... There are non singing roles in musicals.

Also more kids can be involved in musicals. And often more technically demanding for the actual production so needing more backstage team

Also if you can hold a tune there's always chorus work

The non-singing roles are often not particularly big, though. And I can understand why someone who is interested in acting, not singing, wouldn’t want a chorus part in a musical even if they can hold a tune.

I think if there is a school with an actual theatre program then they should offer opportunities for both musicals and plays.

MischiefandMayhemManaged · 23/10/2025 14:26

We did a musical in the christmas term, theater in easter term, and showcase for the end of the summer/prizegiving.

Freebus · 23/10/2025 14:30

I do agree. My dcs school and drama group just did musical plays, no straight theatre where non singers could have a chance.

I'm sure they did this based on numbers. They could have more kids in the production- as the chorus line , dancers in the background etc.

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 23/10/2025 14:42

Ma usicals do sell better in general as well, and most productions on stage are musicals, so kids who want to be theatre actors need to be triple threats

Think about the biggest "new" shows - 2:22 and Stranger Things: First Shadow are the only 2 I can think of that are straight plays, Cursed Child if you go back a bit, and 2 of those are only so big because they are licensed properties

Algen · 23/10/2025 14:43

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 23/10/2025 14:42

Ma usicals do sell better in general as well, and most productions on stage are musicals, so kids who want to be theatre actors need to be triple threats

Think about the biggest "new" shows - 2:22 and Stranger Things: First Shadow are the only 2 I can think of that are straight plays, Cursed Child if you go back a bit, and 2 of those are only so big because they are licensed properties

Most films and TV shows are not musicals, however, so someone aspiring to be an actor more generally does not need to be a triple threat!

YankSplaining · 23/10/2025 14:49

Algen · 23/10/2025 14:43

Most films and TV shows are not musicals, however, so someone aspiring to be an actor more generally does not need to be a triple threat!

Exactly. Besides, high school theater is an extracurricular for teenagers, not a training program for professional theater actors. I think a wide range of opportunities is more important for teenagers in school.

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Skintone · 23/10/2025 14:52

YankSplaining · 23/10/2025 14:49

Exactly. Besides, high school theater is an extracurricular for teenagers, not a training program for professional theater actors. I think a wide range of opportunities is more important for teenagers in school.

But maybe they’ve polled the theatre students in the school and got an overwhelming consensus in favour of a concentration on musicals?

YankSplaining · 23/10/2025 14:57

Skintone · 23/10/2025 14:52

But maybe they’ve polled the theatre students in the school and got an overwhelming consensus in favour of a concentration on musicals?

Unless this director has had a complete personality transplant, she’s not the type to poll students about anything.

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BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 23/10/2025 14:57

Algen · 23/10/2025 14:43

Most films and TV shows are not musicals, however, so someone aspiring to be an actor more generally does not need to be a triple threat!

Hence why I said THEATRE actors...

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 23/10/2025 14:58

YankSplaining · 23/10/2025 14:49

Exactly. Besides, high school theater is an extracurricular for teenagers, not a training program for professional theater actors. I think a wide range of opportunities is more important for teenagers in school.

They aren't training but they are hugely important practice and experience...

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 23/10/2025 14:59

YankSplaining · 23/10/2025 14:57

Unless this director has had a complete personality transplant, she’s not the type to poll students about anything.

People do change in 20 years...

Algen · 23/10/2025 15:01

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 23/10/2025 14:57

Hence why I said THEATRE actors...

Yes, but I suspect more kids want to be film and TV actors than theatre actors, so musicals aren’t going to necessarily work well for them either.

StokePotteries · 23/10/2025 15:03

Musicals allow far more students to take part - there's the chorus as well as main parts, the school orchestra too. It showcases singing and dancing talent as well as acting and is often lighter in subject matter than straight plays.

I loved serious miserable drama when I was a teen, but all our school did was musicals. So I joined a youth theatre led by an ex-professional actor who made us put on Shakespeare and Greek tragedies. Hilarious, looking back on it, but we loved it. Full of geeky misfits.

Skintone · 23/10/2025 15:07

YankSplaining · 23/10/2025 14:57

Unless this director has had a complete personality transplant, she’s not the type to poll students about anything.

Maybe write to her, identify yourself as an alumna, and tell her she’s doing it all wrong?

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 23/10/2025 15:07

Algen · 23/10/2025 15:01

Yes, but I suspect more kids want to be film and TV actors than theatre actors, so musicals aren’t going to necessarily work well for them either.

OK but I was on about theatre actors so

YankSplaining · 23/10/2025 15:19

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 23/10/2025 14:59

People do change in 20 years...

There’s no set group of students to poll. It’s not like you sign up for theater class and then the class puts on the production; the auditions are open to the entire student body of two different schools.

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TandyhatesAmanda · 23/10/2025 15:21

What a ridiculous thread!

Algen · 23/10/2025 15:21

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 23/10/2025 15:07

OK but I was on about theatre actors so

You seemed to be arguing that all-musicals was fine because theatre actors needed to be triple threats. I was pointing out that other types of straight acting ambitions existed so should be catered for.

If I am wrong about your argument I apologise, but I think we are getting close to derailing now so I will leave it there.

YankSplaining · 23/10/2025 15:33

Won’t be able to reply for the next 24+ hours - offline life calls. 🙂 Thanks to everyone who left serious replies, whether we agree or not.

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