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To think people are naive re cocaine

709 replies

Knockonw00d · 19/10/2025 08:50

I see threads on here all the time where women find out their husband has been doing coke etc and are absolutely floored.
But it always amazes me how oblivious people are to how common it really is. I’m childfree and in my late 20s and i go on nights out almost every week so you get to know all of the other regulars in the bars. I do not know one person that I’ve met through going out that doesn’t do cocaine.

These people have professional jobs Monday - Friday. Some of them I know are teachers, nursery staff, work in the passport office. It is so common.

I also see a lot posters describing a change in behaviour and people suggest it could be drugs. But unless you’re doing things like heroin or spice, cocaine does not make you act in the ways people suggest.

Do people really not know how common casual use of cocaine is in this country?

OP posts:
KimberleyClark · 19/10/2025 11:15

DEAROP · 19/10/2025 09:05

The point is that you aren't going to be robbing grannies and selling yourself in the streets for cocaine. You can hold down a job and still have a raging cocaine habit. You won't be still working as a banker with a crack habit.

But you will still be propping up a murderous industry that makes people’s lives a misery in central and South America,

Tiswa · 19/10/2025 11:16

@Knockonw00d first off it looks as if it is around 10% of the adult population not a majority by any means but a scary increase from 5% when I was young.

and by all means take it just don’t try to downplay both the personal and societal impacts of it

it is you who seems naive

womananddog · 19/10/2025 11:18

Casual use or not - anyone who buys cocaine is funding and perpetuating
major crime that causes misery. https://www.reuters.com/article/world/wealthy-cocaine-users-funding-slavery-says-former-uk-drug-chief-idUSKCN1B919C/

localnotail · 19/10/2025 11:18

NerrSnerr · 19/10/2025 11:10

I think there are a lot of people who genuinely don’t go out on the weekends, especially in the Mumsnet demographic. I am 42 and haven’t been clubbing for a long time. If I go out it’s with my close friends and none of us do coke. My friends who are school parents don’t go out, some don’t even go for lunch with old friends as they don’t travel outside of the local area.

I agree that loads of people do coke, but there are also loads of people who don’t. When my daughter did Young Voices at the NEC there were parents worried about driving there because of the ‘gun problem’ in Birmingham. Some people have very small lives.

I would imagine very quiet people who never really done clubbing when young, who never go to gigs and nightclubs would not do it. Like you said - they live very closed and quiet life. But I'm not talking about my actual friends, a lot of whom are now would not even drink much - I'm taking about wider demographic - and the % of people who lead more or less "normal" life during the week do it.

I would also not bet on the husbands of your quiet friends not doing it. Especially if they go out on their own...

SixSeven · 19/10/2025 11:18

EmeraldShamrock000 · 19/10/2025 11:08

Believe me many steal, beg and borrow for their cocaine habit including from their granny, as for prostitution, drug dealers are never short in offers for sexual favours.
When the debt rises, you need to find cash.

Edited

You know this isn’t typical though, right? Most coke users just buy a small bag for a night out and pay for it from their wages. No granny robbing or blow jobs involved.

Katyrosebug · 19/10/2025 11:19

I thought ket was more common these days? I do think people are naive and dont realise how often or how differently it effects different people. There are 3 addicts between mine and DH's family, 2 siblings and a cousin. 1 sibling and the cousin both started out as social users down the pub on nights out

Mollydoggerson · 19/10/2025 11:19

How many sexual assaults are fueled by coke?

PauliesWalnuts · 19/10/2025 11:19

DEAROP · 19/10/2025 11:13

Nobody said that either. What was said is that crack affects your lifestyle in a very different way to cocaine. I really think you don't have any experience of this at all, do you?

I think if you read back on some of @EmeraldShamrock000 ’s posts you’ll find that she does have experience of it.

AnyoneWhoHasAHeart · 19/10/2025 11:20

While cocaine use is common, it’s extremely patronising to suggest that anyone who says people in their social circle doesn’t do coke is wrong or naive. There absolutely are plenty of people who don’t use coke. I don’t, none of my family does. I know people who do or who have done, but that doesn’t mean that because I say I know that the people I mix with don’t do it that I’m wrong.

It’s the same as the “all men watch porn” argument, all men absolutely “don’t” watch porn, even if many do.

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 19/10/2025 11:25

AnyoneWhoHasAHeart · 19/10/2025 11:20

While cocaine use is common, it’s extremely patronising to suggest that anyone who says people in their social circle doesn’t do coke is wrong or naive. There absolutely are plenty of people who don’t use coke. I don’t, none of my family does. I know people who do or who have done, but that doesn’t mean that because I say I know that the people I mix with don’t do it that I’m wrong.

It’s the same as the “all men watch porn” argument, all men absolutely “don’t” watch porn, even if many do.

I agree. I'm in a city in a high earning profession where according to some posters it's common place. I remember conversations about it, non judgemental, no reason to lie, just curious if anyone had used it. No one, didn't even know where you'd buy it.

Grammarninja · 19/10/2025 11:27

It's hugely common these days. People care far more about how they look now and cocaine doesn't affect one's figure the way booze does.
When I was a teenager/ early 20s it was all about alcohol but I've heard it's all about cocaine now from many sources.

Endofyear · 19/10/2025 11:27

I agree recreational use is a lot more common than people think. The problem is over time, it can escalate from a going out at the weekend habit to a more dependent habit and cause financial/relationship/employment problems in the long term. In my experience, people on coke are boring arseholes so I tend not to socialise with cokeheads!

DEAROP · 19/10/2025 11:28

KimberleyClark · 19/10/2025 11:15

But you will still be propping up a murderous industry that makes people’s lives a misery in central and South America,

Thats totally beside the point. Nobody is arguing to encourage cocaine use

EmeraldShamrock000 · 19/10/2025 11:28

SixSeven · 19/10/2025 11:18

You know this isn’t typical though, right? Most coke users just buy a small bag for a night out and pay for it from their wages. No granny robbing or blow jobs involved.

1 in 10 users will become addicted. No particular type, from a park bench to Park avenue.
"A small bag" there is the minimising of the situation.
Here's a thought, if the lad delivering your weekly bag gets caught or loses his stash, he cannot pay his dealer, and gets slashed or his family home burnt, is that okay?

NerrSnerr · 19/10/2025 11:29

localnotail · 19/10/2025 11:18

I would imagine very quiet people who never really done clubbing when young, who never go to gigs and nightclubs would not do it. Like you said - they live very closed and quiet life. But I'm not talking about my actual friends, a lot of whom are now would not even drink much - I'm taking about wider demographic - and the % of people who lead more or less "normal" life during the week do it.

I would also not bet on the husbands of your quiet friends not doing it. Especially if they go out on their own...

Edited

I’ll be honest, the husbands of my quiet friends are more boring than their wives but I do currently live somewhere small and very dull but without too many very rich people.

my husbands uni friends do a shed load of coke and are arseholes, cheat on their wives etc. We haven’t seen them for years but he still watches the group chats.

Iamnotalemming · 19/10/2025 11:29

Crikey OP. I am not aware of anyone in my social circle who takes it, although I would guess a few ppl I used to work with did. One in particular (and I heard from more than one person he used) had a vicious temper.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 19/10/2025 11:30

DEAROP · 19/10/2025 11:13

Nobody said that either. What was said is that crack affects your lifestyle in a very different way to cocaine. I really think you don't have any experience of this at all, do you?

Unbelievable.
It often shocks me how educated people can be really daft too.

Digdongdoo · 19/10/2025 11:30

I think it must vary greatly between social circles. It certainly isn't used by anyone I socialize with. We drink and some smoke weed.
DH works in City finance, and it's supposedly everywhere there. But again, must depend who you hang around.
I don't doubt that it's more common than it used to be, but it's certainly not everywhere.
Anyone I've ever known who does use coke has been a massive twat. Correlation or causation?

DEAROP · 19/10/2025 11:33

PauliesWalnuts · 19/10/2025 11:19

I think if you read back on some of @EmeraldShamrock000 ’s posts you’ll find that she does have experience of it.

I don't think it was very recent or relevant because she speaks with very little understanding of how it works.

On a side note, another thing that has changed is that in my youth, if you did anything other than smoke weed, you were labelled a crack head. Even if you just took ecstacy at a rave. Among my peer group, other drugs were really looked down upon. Even the "clean" ones like cocaine.

That has changed massively in my kid's generation. Even though they operate in a very similar peer group to me in terms of background and we live in the same area, they are more okay with "party drugs" than we were.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 19/10/2025 11:33

I vote for companies to bring in regular drug testing.

DEAROP · 19/10/2025 11:35

EmeraldShamrock000 · 19/10/2025 11:33

I vote for companies to bring in regular drug testing.

They never would in this country because drug use is so rife among all demographics. Surely the first people to be tested should be surgeons when in fact, it is typically relatively low paid jobs where you operate machinery where you can be drug tested.

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 19/10/2025 11:37

Digdongdoo · 19/10/2025 11:30

I think it must vary greatly between social circles. It certainly isn't used by anyone I socialize with. We drink and some smoke weed.
DH works in City finance, and it's supposedly everywhere there. But again, must depend who you hang around.
I don't doubt that it's more common than it used to be, but it's certainly not everywhere.
Anyone I've ever known who does use coke has been a massive twat. Correlation or causation?

We..... smoke weed.

DH works in City finance - did he skip the mandatory training on anti-money laundering and proceeds of crime?

You and he are as much a part of the problem as the "massive twats" you're sneering at.

WaltzingWaters · 19/10/2025 11:38

Occasional use of- okay. Parents who are doing it regularly (there was a thread yesterday about one) is absolutely a problem!
I’d do it on a night out occasionally when I was backpacking and did find I’d handle myself a lot better mixing small amounts of coke and alcohol than when I just got really drunk. But now I’m home and a parent I have absolutely zero desire to do coke again.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 19/10/2025 11:38

DEAROP · 19/10/2025 11:33

I don't think it was very recent or relevant because she speaks with very little understanding of how it works.

On a side note, another thing that has changed is that in my youth, if you did anything other than smoke weed, you were labelled a crack head. Even if you just took ecstacy at a rave. Among my peer group, other drugs were really looked down upon. Even the "clean" ones like cocaine.

That has changed massively in my kid's generation. Even though they operate in a very similar peer group to me in terms of background and we live in the same area, they are more okay with "party drugs" than we were.

You're joking me.
I am an active member of NA/cocaine recovery. I have helped sponsor 100's of people going through recovery from cocaine and suppored their families. We have had a huge increase in family members seeking advice for their aggressive addicted loved ones, the mounting debt, the disassociation.
Maybe you should put away the books and have a look at the RL damage.

Readyforslippers · 19/10/2025 11:44

WaltzingWaters · 19/10/2025 11:38

Occasional use of- okay. Parents who are doing it regularly (there was a thread yesterday about one) is absolutely a problem!
I’d do it on a night out occasionally when I was backpacking and did find I’d handle myself a lot better mixing small amounts of coke and alcohol than when I just got really drunk. But now I’m home and a parent I have absolutely zero desire to do coke again.

No actually, no use is okay.