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Jam sandwiches at wraparound care

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JBeanGarden · 18/10/2025 08:17

My reception age DD goes to a really well arranged breakfast club and after school club 4 days a week. It works very well with 2 commuting parents. I only have one gripe and that is with the food they offer. Technically the food should align with the school’s healthy eating policy, as it’s run by the school not an external provider. The school has asked parents not to provide sweet treats in lunch boxes and it’s quite strict about sandwiches.

HOWEVER the school is not transparent about the wraparound food offer and I had to email three times to get them to tell me what they provide. Once they did, they disclosed that the after school options include a range of sandwiches, including jam, plus a pudding of cake and fruit. Of course, my four-year-old always goes for a jam sandwich and ends up with a very sweet tea 4 days a week. The school says they offer carrot sticks etc, however, not one single parent has ever mentioned this in conversation and so I just think it’s something they say but don’t provide.

We do talk at home about the importance of a balanced diet, but she’s still only four and temptation is there! She’s offered something a bit more nutritionally balanced she gets home, but she’s usually just full of jam sandwich!

I emailed the school to ask them if they are able to comment on this or if they ever review the food that they provide at wraparound care, but I haven’t received a reply. AIBU to push this further?

OP posts:
ObtuseMoose · 19/10/2025 09:49

outofofficeagain · 19/10/2025 09:23

Actually I lie, according to google it’s an amorphous solid.

My cat's an amorphous solid!

Chia seed jam sounds like the most miserable thing anyone has every put in their mouth.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/10/2025 09:51

Poppy123xyz · 19/10/2025 08:51

Ham and cheese are less healthy than jam.

Please explain how a light grating of Cheddar cheese is less healthy than jam.

Am amazed I made it through the night, btw, as I had a ham roll for lunch yesterday. Thoughts and prayers, please.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/10/2025 09:53

ObtuseMoose · 19/10/2025 09:49

My cat's an amorphous solid!

Chia seed jam sounds like the most miserable thing anyone has every put in their mouth.

Isn't that rice cakes? Back in the 90s they were the snack of choice for some health-conscious families in our area. I succumbed to peer pressure and bought some. Like eating a polystyrene ceiling tile. Never again.

TheKeatingFive · 19/10/2025 09:55

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/10/2025 09:51

Please explain how a light grating of Cheddar cheese is less healthy than jam.

Am amazed I made it through the night, btw, as I had a ham roll for lunch yesterday. Thoughts and prayers, please.

I doubt it is cheddar cheese though, it's much more likely to be a processed option.

Not that I have very strong opinions on whether a cheese sandwich is healthier than jam, personally.

ObtuseMoose · 19/10/2025 09:55

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/10/2025 09:53

Isn't that rice cakes? Back in the 90s they were the snack of choice for some health-conscious families in our area. I succumbed to peer pressure and bought some. Like eating a polystyrene ceiling tile. Never again.

Rice cakes dipped in water are a once a year treat here...delicious 😋

outofofficeagain · 19/10/2025 10:00

TheKeatingFive · 19/10/2025 09:55

I doubt it is cheddar cheese though, it's much more likely to be a processed option.

Not that I have very strong opinions on whether a cheese sandwich is healthier than jam, personally.

High in saturated fat and salt. Also not great for those allergic to dairy.

tiny bit of protein certainly but if a tiny bit of cheese makes no difference, I’m not sure why a tiny bit of jam is the end of days

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/10/2025 10:02

ObtuseMoose · 19/10/2025 09:55

Rice cakes dipped in water are a once a year treat here...delicious 😋

I expect you've worked up an appetite for this feast by fasting for the other 364 days. Only safe option, really.

Val33 · 19/10/2025 10:04

I would be absolutely furious at this OP and I would keep phoning to make sure they provide something healthy for my child!

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/10/2025 10:05

Ordinary cheese is surely cheaper than the processed type. I suggested grated cheese as it makes it go a lot further. Growing children need energy. Energy comes from sugar and fat. They also need protein and calcium, amongst other things. Bread with a scraping of spread (butter will be too expensive) and a scraping of jam, a wafer thin slice of ham or a teaspoonful of grated cheese seems like a decent snack to me to keep the children going till a proper meal in the evening. A tiny sandwich like that would not have prevented my children from eating their evening meal.

LaChouette · 19/10/2025 10:06

Val33 · 19/10/2025 10:04

I would be absolutely furious at this OP and I would keep phoning to make sure they provide something healthy for my child!

Being furious about something so low level really isn't good for your health.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/10/2025 10:07

Val33 · 19/10/2025 10:04

I would be absolutely furious at this OP and I would keep phoning to make sure they provide something healthy for my child!

They are providing something healthy. The OP's child is not choosing the healthy option.

TheKeatingFive · 19/10/2025 10:08

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/10/2025 10:05

Ordinary cheese is surely cheaper than the processed type. I suggested grated cheese as it makes it go a lot further. Growing children need energy. Energy comes from sugar and fat. They also need protein and calcium, amongst other things. Bread with a scraping of spread (butter will be too expensive) and a scraping of jam, a wafer thin slice of ham or a teaspoonful of grated cheese seems like a decent snack to me to keep the children going till a proper meal in the evening. A tiny sandwich like that would not have prevented my children from eating their evening meal.

Yeah but extra prep compared to easy singles.

Ultimately I have no idea what they offer 😂

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 19/10/2025 10:09

Can’t believe there are so many pages about jam sandwiches!

And the melodramatic posts about English children and obesity 😂

Previous generations seem to have survived eating things like jam sandwiches daily - and I agree it’s much better that UPF which includes ham. It’s the UPF that’s causing some children to look “inflated” and the huge rise in obesity.

It’s not something we ever have at home but I can’t see it being a huge problem if all the rest of her diet is balanced.

ALJT · 19/10/2025 10:19

My kids go to breakfast club, I give them breakfast before they go but they usually have jam and toast as well at breakfast club. It’s not a big deal to me personally. It’s a nice little sweet treat while they are at school. I find schools are regimental enough without people going all Jamie Oliver to remove the nice things they have left

katepilar · 19/10/2025 10:20

summersolsticesoon · 19/10/2025 09:31

The queen had a jam sandwich every day of her life- I think it was a round jam sandwich called a penny.

The queen was born in 1936. Thats basically 100 years ago. She lived in a different world.

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 19/10/2025 10:29

JBeanGarden · 18/10/2025 08:38

I’m going to close the thread. I suppose it confirmed my own opinions that the British population has an incredibly low bar with nutrition expectations for growing children.

You're right there. It reminds me of the Healthy Schools Initiative when parents were up in arms because schools were told to stop serving crap to children. The after school club should have a food policy.
To overcome your situation atm I'd agree with your DC that she can have a jam sandwich once a week.

YourZanyNewt · 19/10/2025 10:30

JBeanGarden · 18/10/2025 08:38

I’m going to close the thread. I suppose it confirmed my own opinions that the British population has an incredibly low bar with nutrition expectations for growing children.

School Years are a long slog!! Some things you have to let go…. Just tell AS club not to feed her then or provide a packed dinner? If you were that bothered, you would arrange your work pattern so that one of you is doing school pick ups! Breakfast club AND after school clubs 4DAYS a week is a lot for a 4 yr old. My girls school we weren’t allowed to use after school club till yr 1!! As they said it’s too much for 4/5yr olds to cope with!

pollymere · 19/10/2025 11:15

It seems a poor offering. I'd expect toddler group type snacks. Rice cakes, mini bread sticks, fruit, carrot sticks, cheese cubes. With the occasional offering of toast with jam or chocolate spread.

I used to go to Breakfast Club at Secondary School (it was for students who got there early!) It was the cheapest of white bread as toast with cheap jam. Sometimes there was cereal. The alleged bacon/sausage/egg or porridge options happened about once a term!

PretendToBeToastWithMe · 19/10/2025 11:19

outofofficeagain · 19/10/2025 08:26

And as the parent of teenagers, when I look around at the mental health struggles of many of their friends, I bet they skew heavily in favour of those parents who would have worried about the jam.

I’m the parent of a younger child who worries about the jam and attachment. I wonder how my child will fare 🤔

outofofficeagain · 19/10/2025 11:23

PretendToBeToastWithMe · 19/10/2025 11:19

I’m the parent of a younger child who worries about the jam and attachment. I wonder how my child will fare 🤔

Attachment first, jam second - they’ll be
fine.

outofofficeagain · 19/10/2025 11:26

pollymere · 19/10/2025 11:15

It seems a poor offering. I'd expect toddler group type snacks. Rice cakes, mini bread sticks, fruit, carrot sticks, cheese cubes. With the occasional offering of toast with jam or chocolate spread.

I used to go to Breakfast Club at Secondary School (it was for students who got there early!) It was the cheapest of white bread as toast with cheap jam. Sometimes there was cereal. The alleged bacon/sausage/egg or porridge options happened about once a term!

But some of the children in that ASC might be nearly 8. A couple of breadsticks and a cheese cube is not going to help.

TheKeatingFive · 19/10/2025 11:36

outofofficeagain · 19/10/2025 11:26

But some of the children in that ASC might be nearly 8. A couple of breadsticks and a cheese cube is not going to help.

Plus the prep involved in cutting up cheese/carrots.

THISbitchingwitch · 19/10/2025 11:37

YourZanyNewt · 19/10/2025 10:30

School Years are a long slog!! Some things you have to let go…. Just tell AS club not to feed her then or provide a packed dinner? If you were that bothered, you would arrange your work pattern so that one of you is doing school pick ups! Breakfast club AND after school clubs 4DAYS a week is a lot for a 4 yr old. My girls school we weren’t allowed to use after school club till yr 1!! As they said it’s too much for 4/5yr olds to cope with!

How is attending breakfast & afterschool club any different to a child under school age attending nursery for a full day? Yes smaller ones at nursery will nap but from age 3+ most won't

Some parents need full wrap around care and there is no shame in that.

BeLilacSloth · 19/10/2025 11:38

AlenaMacc · 19/10/2025 09:14

You seem to be absolutely missing the point of OP’s thread.

It’s not about taking your DC to Greggs once in a while because you’re tired of cooking. It’s not about feeding them chicken nuggets from time to time because you’re out of time to cook dinner from scratch. It’s not about taking them out for a cake at the weekend. It’s not about giving them the occasional treat. It’s not about baking them a homemade dessert made with ingredients our grannies had in their cupboards.

It’s about feeding them crap 4 days a week at a childcare setting that they HAVE to attend in order for the parents to work such long hours because the economy is so dire.

It’s about the expectations from parents to provide a healthy lunch box, but then turning around and not following their own rules when it comes to wraparound.

It’s about feeding growing children food with 0 nutrition, which is just empty calories when they need healthy fats, protein and good carbs.

I cringe at your comprehension skills.

Nice story babes, still cringing.

angela1952 · 19/10/2025 11:50

It's a snack, not a meal and I'm guessing that they offer jam sandwiches because children with any dietary restrictions can probably eat it - vegan, nut-free, vegetarian, halal etc. If your children are having a proper supper later I don't see why this is real problem.