To be somewhat proud of being vaccinated?

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With all the anti vax bollocks going about at the moment I’m somewhat proud of myself for actually going and getting vaccinated. I just think it’s mad that people won’t!

Source? 😏

The manufacturers? The government? The vaccination campaign they ran?

I doubt it. Sadly being uneducated is something that is celebrated these days

I have been made very anxious about vaccines now unfortunately. Yes I know the differences between them. I just don’t always trust..

You'd be surprised at the number of people who think that flu vaccinations are at best a waste of time,at worst, think it's preferable to actually get full blown flu! My ex MIL once said to me,after I'd told her I had a sore arm after my flu vaccination,that she'd rather get flu! All I can say is that anyone who says this obviously hasn't had the flu. So many people think it's just a bad cold.

@NoOneToTextWhenThePlaneLands being educated means that you as an individual understand the risk to benefit ratio of a particular vaccine that is not offered to your age group. Why did you feel confident to go against NHS and vaccine producers risk/benefit protocol and privately buy vaccination?

Viruses are well known to trigger auto-immune diseases. Covid triggered one in me. A vaccine, which puts a load on your immune system, can also trigger it

Because I had had the flu the year before and been bed bound. There is no guidance to state this should not be done.

perhaps people can’t afford it? It should be free imo

I get a free flu vaccine through work as it’s full of germy students 🦠 and I paid for the Covid one. I have enough on my plate at the moment and the last 2 times I had Covid I was off work for a month. As a single parent now that’s just not practical. Anything to keep me functioning is worth the investment especially as my immune system is seriously flawed at the moment (stress and peri related).

I do find it odd how few take up the free flu
one at work though then moan when they catch it from the disease filled lifts!

I’m not proud of myself for being vaccinated against as much as I possibly can, as much as I think people who don’t vaccinate (without good medical reason) are idiots

So sorry your DM suffered the same thing, it really has been horrible to watch. My DM was 69 when she had it, but active and healthy. Within 2 months of the jab she had to sell her horse as she’d pretty much lost all of her mobility and wouldn’t have been able to look after it or ride it. It really has ruined her life. I know steroids aren’t great, but the doctors don’t seem to have the foggiest idea how to undo the damage that has been done. I don’t know if it’s even possible. The immuno-suppressants worked well up until the point when the infections started and one nearly killed her. She gets conflicting advice from every doctor or consultant she sees too, basically they don’t know what to do.

What ? My guess is some people have really low expectations to feel worthy and proud lol it’s a vaccine you neither created it or supply it or achieved anything from it . Most people are vaccinated so I struggle to see anything to be proud off ?

I just had Covid and flu vaccines and yep people seem to be horrified I’ve had both
I’m immunocompromised, what else am I meant to do?!

I genuinely don’t understand the horror!

The ‘guidance’ is that the NHS only provides flu vaccination for those most at risk of severe illness (ie hospitalisation or death). If you are not at risk of severe illness you should not be vaccinated even if that means a bad bout of flu from which you fully recover.

This will reflect cost of immunisation of a wider population verses the cost of treating severe flu but will also reflect the risk/benefit of immunisation versus flu in different demographics. A blind belief that all immunisation is good for all is not educated.

@Checkcheckout is she being seen regularly in the rheumatology clinic? There is a system in UK of progression through the cheapest treatments with the worst side effects until utterly predictable long term failure means the more effective but more expensive drugs are rolled out. Steroids are also immune suppressants. They just have more side effects than other immune suppressants that may be more useful to her like biologics.

But would it be against everything as OP?

Disclaimer. I’ve got my flu jab earlier this week and don’t feel any particular pride. Just ticked it off the list.

Just because that’s where you heard something doesn’t mean it’s a source. There can be no source for a hypothetical unless you personally know a time traveller. “Stops you getting as poorly” - how could anyone possibly know if they would have been worse or not?

I was pro vax all my life. But it was seeing the complications my husband suffered after getting the AstroZeneca covid jab that has really made me pause for the first time. I believe that jab has since been pulled. I just never would have believed someone could end up hospitalised from a vaccine.

I got both covid jabs (the Pfizer ones, forget the name, they were fine) and I make sure my children have the basic ones but as for "optional" ones, I wouldn't anymore. The children do not have covid jabs. They can make that choice when they are old enough.

And yet, science has been known to be wrong on occasion...

I think in this instance it's less about science being wrong and more about not actually understanding the science.

This is complete nonsense. Your immune system is exposed to millions of antigens every day. There is zero scientific/medical basis to support the “overwhelming the immune system” theory.

People with certain cancers who get a stem cell transplant need all their childhood vaccinations re-done. At times this schedule involves getting as many as 5 vaccines at the same time. There’s no way an oncologist/haematologist would put a patient through that therapy then allow them to have multiple vaccines in one go, if it was potentially harmful to them.

Trump also “feels” like vaccines should be given separately but there’s no scientific reason to justify it.

There are some strange posts on mumsnet lately!
Literally no one gives a shit whether you’re proudly vaccinated or not.

are you ok? Do you need to see a therapist about other stuff going on in your life?

I must admit, I too was quite surprised by it, as I've been invited by my GP for the past few years to have both the Covid and flu vaccinations together (and have indeed done so with no noticeable side effects), and nobody had previously suggested that it might be better to have them separately.

However, after my husband suffered a severe autoimmune reaction to the vaccination last year, we were told (just a couple of months ago, after the condition was finally diagnosed and the vaccination being the cause was established) that it would be safer (ie less chance of a similar reaction occurring) not to have the two vaccinations (Covid and flu) together, but to separate them by a few weeks, ideally a month. We were given that advice by two consultant neurologists, in two different hospitals.