AIBU - GREEN party - Zack Polanski

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AIBU to consider voting Green even though I’m gender critical?

I stumbled across a couple of reels where he was interviewed by Carole (surname unknown shouty presenter) and he really kept his cool and spoke very well.

I’ve just gone down a rabbit hole on his instagram page and can see the Greens are surging and I agree with so much of what he says. It’s refreshing and positive and nothing like the doom and gloom and hatred that comes from Reform.

I am tempted to join them. To feel like I’m doing something to try to change and shape a better future in politics.

my concern is that I am gender critical and they are quite the opposite to me in views. Should I put this aside for the greater good?

AIBU to consider voting green despite this difference in gender critical view?

This exactly. I like what he says and how he deals with the reform people, but he'd throw women and girls under a bus in an instant. I'm glad he's providing a counter weight to reform but I can't actually vote for him.

Are people really still dragging up that Sun article?!

Anyone who knows anything about trash redtop media knows he was most likely asked to take part in that feature and told what to do / say. Yes it's distasteful but he has apologised for it some time ago and has taken responsibility for his mistake which I personally respect.

I don't think politicians have to be perfect people.

I also think it's unrealistic to find a political party with which you'll agree with unequivocally.

He's obviously doing a very good job of getting dissatisfied voters to sit up and listen talking about real issues that affect the majority in a way that resonates.

Frankly, people's stance on trans doesn't impact the vast majority of people on a daily basis. (The worst affected are probably trans people themselves)

Cost of living, housing, taxation, healthcare, education, transport do.

There’s ’perfect people’ then there’s publicising that you think you can hypnotise peoples tits

Nice try, Zack. Not fooled though.

There are several serious parties. Pick one.

You think gender is the most important manifesto issue!

I've voted Green ever since Starmer took over. I don't agree with some of their policies, particularly trans issues (where they conflict with women's issues). But they have many good policies that I can get behind so they're definitely better than any of the current parties.

theyve done fuck all to stop Israel murdering Palestinians

Oddly enough, you need to be a Nato member to enjoy the benefit of its protection.

You guys are being fooled by Polanski, he's a slick conman. But it'll split the Labour vote at least.

oddly a lot of women go think the "gender" issue ie redefining 51% of the population women so that women no longer means 'adult human female' but 'adult human female and men with special non definable lady feelings' is pretty bloody important

it means the greens would be unable to have any definite policy on women's issues because it would include men, it means they cannot monitor the impact of anything they go on women because their definition includes men

but also it means that the Greens think womanhood is a costume men can pop on, that 51% of the population (women) are a set of gendered stereotypes men can perform

if that they're batshit and insulting about something as fundamental as biological sex I wouldnt trust them to run a bath.

Look up how they fcked up Brighton. You’ll find your answer.
And now Bristol.
Why would I vote for the Greens to run the country when they can't even run a city?

I voted Green back in the day when they were sensible and cared about the environment. I will never vote for them again as they are zealots in thrall to multiple ideologies. They have treated many of their members appallingly and I wouldn’t trust them to organise a piss up in a brewery.

It's clearly important to the Green Party because they have said they don't want GC women voting for them.

There have also been a number of high profile issues within the party as a result of their position on this.

I used to vote green as my protest vote because I felt obligated to put a tick somewhere. Now they have started getting more support I will probably stop.

Some of their views are bonkers.

Ex GP member here.
Not a chance in hell I'll vote for them again. It makes me sad because there's a very real need for a left wing party who are focussed on the environment.

There's clearly a big push to make Hypno Tits popular. My 17 yo asked me what I thought about him the other day. The Greens must be flooding all sorts of social media at the minute and targeting as many different demographics as possible.

If you can lie about men being women, then you'll lie about anything.

If you can lie about men being women, then you'll lie about anything.

This. Absolutely this.

I think the way the Green Party treats women who disagree with the stance on gender is unconscionable.

I could vote for a party who disagrees with me on the primacy of gender over sex if they allow for open debate about that policy.

I cannot vote for a party that claims female people even wanting to talk about being female rather than male and how for them that is different to whatever it means to be a women by "gender" are bigots and fascists.

So no, it's not "gender" that is the important issue, but the way the Green Party is behaving because of it.

Exactly.

If it's such a side issue compared to cost of living, environment and so forth then all the Greens need to do is drop it. Why are they choosing to put those more important policies at risk rather than soften their stance on gender?

If people really think the Gender issue is not important, the way to get Green votes is not to waste time challenging individual women on why it is so important that they will walk away from parties because of it, it is to tell the Green Party to stop throwing away votes because of it.

Completely agree with this.

Why would they step in in the Middle East? Those aren’t NATO countries. They haven’t intervened in Sudan where much higher numbers of civilians are being killed either. NATO is a defensive organisation, not a world policeman. It is an alliance for the mutual defence of its members.

Then you're rather ignorant.

Veganism isn't a diet. It's an ethical stance on animals that incorporates but goes beyond a plant based diet. The goal is to avoid acting in a way that leads to the suffering of animals as much as is possible.

I cannot believe anyone falls for that conman. Although I guess maybe they are one of those people that are more susceptible to hypnotism… The last thing I need is bigger tits!!

The man does not know the difference between the debt and the deficit! There is no way he is a serious candidate if he does not have an even basic understanding of how our economy works.
Watch his interview on the rest is politics leading. He is not credible and would almost be as bad for this country as Farage would be.

I like to think that’s because they are utterly thick as mince rather that envious and vindictive but who knows

Pretty certain it's both.

Quite!

What a ridiculous post. The Greens are as dangerous as Reform. Their views on gender aren't even their most bat - shit crazy.