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To tell MIL to go with other SIL

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Tightytights · 15/10/2025 19:09

MIL asked my DH if I’ll take her shopping to buy an outfit for an upcoming special event. I suggested a shopping experience at John Lewis as I’d had one and enjoyed it. I have only two ‘free’ days this month to myself and agreed on one of those days to drive her to the store (1.5 hours drive each way).
She suggested we make a day of it and could I book lunch somewhere which I did, I booked a ‘naive’ place. She’s now invited other DIL and her adult granddaughter (who both are extremely frugal shall we say!), and wants me to find/book somewhere cheaper. Neither of them work and to be honest I do feel somewhat miffed at now having to spend the day chauffeuring them and having them moan about the cost of everything to the point MIL will no doubt end up funding their lunch anyway, and I’ll have to pay for a possibly boring lunch for myself.
AIBU to tell MIL to book a place herself? DH says she’ll get all flustered about that but I’d prefer not to go at all now but neither of them drive so they need me.

OP posts:
thepariscrimefiles · 17/10/2025 10:48

Tightytights · 15/10/2025 20:11

A function just MIL is going to, it’s an award ceremony. She is going with a friend who is very fashionable and understandably wants to look and feel nice.
Ive suggested SIL chooses somewhere for lunch and she’s responded that ‘they don’t know how to do things like that, that’s more your thing’. This is exactly what I feared as they don’t do the internet etc so it’s left to me.
I really feel like saying no but know it’s going to cause more drama.

Surely your SIL's daughter can use the internet? She must be relatively young and will have been required to use computers at school. This is massively weaponised incompetence to avoid doing anything for themselves. Do not pander to them.

SlippySausage · 17/10/2025 10:48

"The OP gets only 2 days off a month. "

The OP doesn't say this. She says she has two "free" days this month. That could mean anything.

rookiemere · 17/10/2025 10:51

WearyCat · 17/10/2025 09:59

If you’re going to John Lewis why not go into one of their cafes for lunch? My gran would love that (and my mother).

Thing is you can get a decent lunch somewhere nice for about the same price as a JL cafe sandwich these days.

I definitely advocate taking a step back on the lunch booking OP. It’s the height of rudeness to reject your choice, then expect you to source something cheaper ! I like the suggestions saying that you’re happy to eat wherever suits and as SIL is working to a budget it’s probably better if she chooses. Maybe put the boot in and say “Chez swanky that I originally chose is a lovely place, so maybe we could go there some other time just the two of us.” But probably not as unfortunately for MIL in the circumstances that have arisen, I would be taking a big step back and would be unlikely to arrange any future special excursions.

diddl · 17/10/2025 11:00

Naive is supposed to be "naice" I think.

Not just nice but MN nice.

Inertia · 17/10/2025 11:09

Pretty rude of MIL to invite others along without checking.

I would say that they can rebook somewhere else and you’ll cancel your booking once it’s confirmed, but you don’t have time to do all of the research and then to and fro between them for approval.

Google didn’t really help in terms of of explaining what a naive lunch place is, so I’m intrigued.

thing47 · 17/10/2025 11:27

'Hi MIL, I'm looking forward to our shopping trip. As it involves quite a lot of driving for me, I wanted to treat myself a bit and have a nice lunch so I'd really prefer to stick to our original arrangements and eat at the restaurant I have already booked. If this is too pricy for SIL and GD, I quite understand but maybe they won't be able to come.on this occasion.'

Something like that? It's not too rude but asserts your own boundaries - as the trip is seemingly totally dependent on you, you absolutely do get some say over it. No way I would do 3 hours' driving without some 'reward'.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 17/10/2025 11:56

I think that plans are too far advanced for MIL to easily change and uninvite the other two. And you will be the villain of the peace if you do which would drag on far longer than a day's shopping trip. So you may just have to go ahead with it. MIL shouldn't have invited them as in my experience it will only cause delays in achieving the mission but perhaps they sort of invited themselves?

Your John Lewis idea is excellent and the personal shopper is used to dealing with the shopper's extra people. I once did one in Monsoon which was very good and very affordable.

When my DIL was arriving from abroad and needed emergency shoes. I got a good description of what she was looking for and did a good internet search on what was available in our nearest big shopping centre so we already had a hit list of which shops we needed to get to. We had no time for mail order and had to find something that was in stock and it worked really well ( about an hour online).

You might save some of the time... ( and get your MIL used to the price range in advance so she's clear on what she's probably going to have to pay) By doing some online suggestions..

The MN shopping bit often has great suggestions of online brands that are sometimes in the big department stores ( so you have the best of both worlds, and can do click and collect and try on)
Also gets her used to what's out that.

A separate post about recommendations in the area would be good. If you are in John Lewis, you may as well save time and shoe leather by going to the Place to Eat ( Silliest most literal name for a cafe)

Good luck. It's only one day... and make sure DH has a large G and T and a nice dinner waiting for you when you get home. I would suggest he comes along and shares the pain, but I know in my case that would be extremely counter productive due to the deeply felt sighs and the "buy that one" suggestions that would go on. But he had better be deeply appreciative.

CruCru · 17/10/2025 11:56

Yes, that is a good message.

AphroditesSeashell · 17/10/2025 11:56

Inertia · 17/10/2025 11:09

Pretty rude of MIL to invite others along without checking.

I would say that they can rebook somewhere else and you’ll cancel your booking once it’s confirmed, but you don’t have time to do all of the research and then to and fro between them for approval.

Google didn’t really help in terms of of explaining what a naive lunch place is, so I’m intrigued.

Pretty sure it's a typo for 'naice' aka a bit posh

sugarapplelane · 17/10/2025 11:57

SlippySausage · 17/10/2025 10:46

MILS crime is that she asked OP to help her choose an outfit for a special occasion. At that point, OP could have refused or chummed MIL to a local shop or helped her do some online shopping. Instead, OP arranged a big trip to a distant place for an 'experience'. MIL then suggested lunch (because 3 hours of travel plus a shopping experience necessitates eating at some point). OP booked lunch at a fancy place (I'm assuming a 'naive' place is fancy - I am possibly too provincial to understand the reference?). Maybe op arranged all this as a special treat for MIL, or maybe OP planned an OTT day that suits OP's needs/requirements rather than her MILs. (No shade - why shouldn't OP enjoy herself too.) But now the workshy inlaws are coming along - they can't drive, use the internet or spend money. They are going to sully the whole premium experience that OP has planned for herself.

It's a shame OP that your lovely day has been spoiled but you made your own bed. It would be unbelievably rude to cancel the whole thing.

Op hasn’t “made any bed” from what I can gather.
She arranged to take MIL shopping and booked them into a nice restaurant for lunch, which I assume MIL agreed too.

All good so far

Then SIL and her DD decide to tag along. Not sure if this was SIL asking to come or MIL inviting her. They have now changed the goal posts.

This change in goal posts has nothing to do with Op because as far as she was concerned they were going to John Lewis then out for a swanky lunch. All had been arranged.

You can’t tag along to someone else’s outing and demand a change of plan. You’ve got to be socially unaware at best to do this.

Op - assert your boundaries. You need to tell MIL that you had your plan and you were looking forward to it. You’re not going to change the restaurant choice. If you care feeling ok about having extras tag along then they need to man up and find somewhere for lunch as you’ve done your bit.

Some people are so incapable

No5ChalksRoad · 17/10/2025 13:25

At this point I’d invent a work emergency or some other reason, and cancel. MIL can order online.

I mean, she’ll be wearing the dress for perhaps three hours. Why should OP invest an entire free day plus all this advance planning & aggravation for that?! A day given up to select a dress no one is going to care about or remember the next day.

Differentforgirls · 17/10/2025 13:27

diddl · 17/10/2025 11:00

Naive is supposed to be "naice" I think.

Not just nice but MN nice.

So cringe 😳

NellieElephantine · 17/10/2025 13:59

No5ChalksRoad · 17/10/2025 13:25

At this point I’d invent a work emergency or some other reason, and cancel. MIL can order online.

I mean, she’ll be wearing the dress for perhaps three hours. Why should OP invest an entire free day plus all this advance planning & aggravation for that?! A day given up to select a dress no one is going to care about or remember the next day.

Or I'd have a reason for no room in the car.. back seats down, full boot.
You'll of course meet the other rels at JL! 😇

Lurkingandlearning · 17/10/2025 13:59

Tightytights · 15/10/2025 20:11

A function just MIL is going to, it’s an award ceremony. She is going with a friend who is very fashionable and understandably wants to look and feel nice.
Ive suggested SIL chooses somewhere for lunch and she’s responded that ‘they don’t know how to do things like that, that’s more your thing’. This is exactly what I feared as they don’t do the internet etc so it’s left to me.
I really feel like saying no but know it’s going to cause more drama.

They are all piss takers. Your MIL wants to go shopping with your SIL and niece. The problem is none of them drive. The easiest way to solve that is to butter you up by praising your good taste and get you to drive and book lunch somewhere you like.

Once you’re committed they change everything to have the day they wanted all along, with you as chauffeur.

I don’t think there’s a way out of this without you looking bad in their eyes. I’m not sure I would care about that because I don’t like being manipulated. But for ongoing family harmony perhaps you should just toe the line this time but never be available again. In future if DH cannot do whatever MIL needs it doesn’t get done.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 17/10/2025 14:16

Tightytights · 15/10/2025 20:11

A function just MIL is going to, it’s an award ceremony. She is going with a friend who is very fashionable and understandably wants to look and feel nice.
Ive suggested SIL chooses somewhere for lunch and she’s responded that ‘they don’t know how to do things like that, that’s more your thing’. This is exactly what I feared as they don’t do the internet etc so it’s left to me.
I really feel like saying no but know it’s going to cause more drama.

DH sorts out all the booking and planning, comes along on the day as driver and has lunch with you all. You simply contribute fashion expertise.

99bottlesofkombucha · 17/10/2025 14:27

Lurkingandlearning · 17/10/2025 13:59

They are all piss takers. Your MIL wants to go shopping with your SIL and niece. The problem is none of them drive. The easiest way to solve that is to butter you up by praising your good taste and get you to drive and book lunch somewhere you like.

Once you’re committed they change everything to have the day they wanted all along, with you as chauffeur.

I don’t think there’s a way out of this without you looking bad in their eyes. I’m not sure I would care about that because I don’t like being manipulated. But for ongoing family harmony perhaps you should just toe the line this time but never be available again. In future if DH cannot do whatever MIL needs it doesn’t get done.

I don’t think this is quite true. I’d say ops mil does value her fashion advice, and an awards ceremony probably feels like quite a big deal, so shopping for it also feels like it should be ‘an affair’, but now sil is coming mil wants to keep her happy too. It would be very rude to cancel but I’d refuse to sort lunch.

NellieElephantine · 17/10/2025 14:32

Lurkingandlearning · 17/10/2025 13:59

They are all piss takers. Your MIL wants to go shopping with your SIL and niece. The problem is none of them drive. The easiest way to solve that is to butter you up by praising your good taste and get you to drive and book lunch somewhere you like.

Once you’re committed they change everything to have the day they wanted all along, with you as chauffeur.

I don’t think there’s a way out of this without you looking bad in their eyes. I’m not sure I would care about that because I don’t like being manipulated. But for ongoing family harmony perhaps you should just toe the line this time but never be available again. In future if DH cannot do whatever MIL needs it doesn’t get done.

Agree with all of this, up.unti the 'toe the line' why should op acquiesce to their rudeness?
I'd just be 'breezy' and be all 'yay! You have sil and dgd to help, was so worried about my needing to cancel!'

Bananaandmangosmoothie · 17/10/2025 14:59

I’d cancel the day and go round to hers with an ipad and some online suggestions.

No5ChalksRoad · 17/10/2025 15:17

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 17/10/2025 14:16

DH sorts out all the booking and planning, comes along on the day as driver and has lunch with you all. You simply contribute fashion expertise.

This is the only scenario I would agree to, in the LW's shoes.

RawBloomers · 17/10/2025 15:23

99bottlesofkombucha · 17/10/2025 14:27

I don’t think this is quite true. I’d say ops mil does value her fashion advice, and an awards ceremony probably feels like quite a big deal, so shopping for it also feels like it should be ‘an affair’, but now sil is coming mil wants to keep her happy too. It would be very rude to cancel but I’d refuse to sort lunch.

This makes it sound like SiL just popped up unexpectedly.

What happened was MiL liked the idea of the day and wanted to do it with her DD and DGC so invited them along and then asked to change details to prioritize her new guests’ preferences.

canyouseemyhousefromhere · 17/10/2025 16:01

You could always suggest that you stick to your original plan with just you & mil. Have a nice day with lunch & JL. She can have a separate and very different day out with SIL & her child.
Sell it to mil as two days out.

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