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Ian Watkins Dead

817 replies

Americano75 · 11/10/2025 17:25

Gosh, how sad. (100% sarcastic)

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/ian-watkins-dead-lostprophets-paedophile-36052854

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BatchCookBabe · 11/10/2025 20:43

Netcurtainnelly · 11/10/2025 20:42

Brilliant news.
Ian Huntley next.

Fingers crossed!

Americano75 · 11/10/2025 20:43

OhFeckWhatNow · 11/10/2025 20:41

What's wrong with H from Steps?
<misses point>

Oh, he's a wee fanny. If you want a laugh, read up about the time he blocked half of twitter by mistake.

Not a beast though, bless him.

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Cherry8809 · 11/10/2025 20:43

PeonyPatch · 11/10/2025 20:39

I have wondered it in some ways the mothers are worse. How can you do that to your own child? Your own flesh and blood that primitively you are there to protect?!?

I agree.

The level of absolute betrayal, it honestly makes me sick.

Those poor, poor kids are going to have to have that explained to them some day when they’re older, and I just hope they’re being raised by people who can support them through that discovery.

PeonyPatch · 11/10/2025 20:44

Algen · 11/10/2025 20:42

After having read the court documents I am firmly convinced the mothers are at least as bad as him, if not worse.

I cannot imagine being an active participant in the abuse of my own child. I hope the children have a strong support network around them and all the therapy they need - thankfully it appears from the documents as though there won’t be lasting physical effects, but who knows about psychologically?

Agreed. I don’t think I can read them. I just don’t understand. I’m not excusing him, but he did use heavy drugs like crystal meth, maybe they did too. They are inhumane.

CountryQueen · 11/10/2025 20:45

BatchCookBabe · 11/10/2025 20:31

??? Confused

Missing the point much ?? MATE.

Google what NONCE stands for, and you will discover that you are in fact, wrong, with your claim that sex offenders are not at risk from other prisoners.

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My god. I know what nonce stands for 🤣 it’s not the early 1900s though and you are completely and utterly wrong about how we allocated and hold prisoners in the modern day prison service. Thanks for the history chat though, irrelevant though it was

LooseCanyon · 11/10/2025 20:46

I hope it hurt.

Butchyrestingface · 11/10/2025 20:46

BatchCookBabe · 11/10/2025 20:43

Fingers crossed!

And yet Jeremy Bamber still lives and thrives...

Right enough, must be about time for his annual appeal.

PeonyPatch · 11/10/2025 20:46

Cherry8809 · 11/10/2025 20:43

I agree.

The level of absolute betrayal, it honestly makes me sick.

Those poor, poor kids are going to have to have that explained to them some day when they’re older, and I just hope they’re being raised by people who can support them through that discovery.

I really hope they’re okay, and are in much more loving and supportive homes. I also wondered if they would ever find out what happened to them as a child. I guess for safeguarding reasons, no. That could destroy someone’s life. If it was me, I would never want to know. God bless their souls.

Americano75 · 11/10/2025 20:47

PeonyPatch · 11/10/2025 20:46

I really hope they’re okay, and are in much more loving and supportive homes. I also wondered if they would ever find out what happened to them as a child. I guess for safeguarding reasons, no. That could destroy someone’s life. If it was me, I would never want to know. God bless their souls.

I'm literally just pondering the same thing. Should they really be told? Or is the lie by omission kinder?

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Netcurtainnelly · 11/10/2025 20:47

SerafinasGoose · 11/10/2025 20:22

How can one person leave so much misery in his wake? The details that came after his sentencing might qualify as the worst thing I think I've ever read.

The true ones to suffer are his child victims who I hope are now able to gain some small sense of comfort, closure and relief. But I also spare a thought for his former bandmates and the family who raised him.

Imagine being tainted by association with that?

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Imagine being its parents.

littlbrowndog · 11/10/2025 20:48

TheHillIsMine · 11/10/2025 18:31

Hurray!

I hope he suffered every second.

Shame on all the police who wouldn't listen when Joanne was telling them what he was.

Exactly

SalonDesRefuses · 11/10/2025 20:49

CountryQueen · 11/10/2025 20:00

Is this HMP? “Mainstream” and “protection” are not terms I’ve ever known used.

The use of these terms suggests a different service, or private? Either way, most uk prisons don’t have the structure to be able to separate by offence. Of course, vulnerable prisoners will be sometimes kept on a VP unit or in segregation.

The poster was suggesting that they are automatically segregated by offence and that the offence itself is the indicator of their vulnerability. I don’t know what prison you used to work in but practically it’s not usually possible to keep them “strictly” separated.

And if that’s what PPs believe why are they all “give that man an OBE” and “let me thank and shake hands with that man” if it’s a given he’s also a sex offender? Bizarre.

I've just visited a prison (in a professional capacity) and sex offenders are kept separate from the rest of the prison population (HMP).

Do you work in a prison?

CountryQueen · 11/10/2025 20:49

BatchCookBabe · 11/10/2025 20:31

??? Confused

Missing the point much ?? MATE.

Google what NONCE stands for, and you will discover that you are in fact, wrong, with your claim that sex offenders are not at risk from other prisoners.

.

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Also, please tell me where I said they’re not at risk? EVERY prisoner is at risk from someone potentially. We do not house sex offenders on special units together or in solitary confinement as a rule. Try and grasp the concept of reading a post before harking back to the 1900s will you?

DrowningInSyrup · 11/10/2025 20:49

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What an odd and aggressive response and you've misread the meaning of my post.

CountryQueen · 11/10/2025 20:50

SalonDesRefuses · 11/10/2025 20:49

I've just visited a prison (in a professional capacity) and sex offenders are kept separate from the rest of the prison population (HMP).

Do you work in a prison?

Yes.

All of them? Or some of them? Because there’s a huge difference

PeonyPatch · 11/10/2025 20:51

Americano75 · 11/10/2025 20:47

I'm literally just pondering the same thing. Should they really be told? Or is the lie by omission kinder?

My DH and I were just discussing this, and we both agreed that it’s for the best that they don’t know. I work in MH, and very few people who experience childhood sexual abuse are able to recover from it or overcome it really. It’s truly sad and inconceivably traumatic.

Whilst I won’t be popping open the champagne this evening, my thoughts truly are with the victims. I really don’t mean that as a virtue signalling post, I genuinely feel for them to be perfectly honest.

Lighteningstrikes · 11/10/2025 20:51

@neverbeenskiing
Give it a rest. Are you always so morally superior?

Why shouldn’t people rejoice in the utter vile scumbags death? In life and in death, he deserves all the hatred he gets and more.

Spookyspaghetti · 11/10/2025 20:51

OhFeckWhatNow · 11/10/2025 20:41

What's wrong with H from Steps?
<misses point>

His real name is also Ian Watkins. It did take me a minute though as I didn’t remember either.

ChamelalaBingBong · 11/10/2025 20:51

DrowningInSyrup · 11/10/2025 20:49

What an odd and aggressive response and you've misread the meaning of my post.

Unsure how it's odd or aggressive? Please do educate me though? I'm open to being taught to understand how I have misread your post?

Butchyrestingface · 11/10/2025 20:52

PeonyPatch · 11/10/2025 20:51

My DH and I were just discussing this, and we both agreed that it’s for the best that they don’t know. I work in MH, and very few people who experience childhood sexual abuse are able to recover from it or overcome it really. It’s truly sad and inconceivably traumatic.

Whilst I won’t be popping open the champagne this evening, my thoughts truly are with the victims. I really don’t mean that as a virtue signalling post, I genuinely feel for them to be perfectly honest.

I was thinking the victims would need to be told from the perspective of when, assuming they've been adopted, they reach the age of 18 or beyond and maybe want to contact their birth mothers. They would need to know why this is highly inadvisable.

Americano75 · 11/10/2025 20:54

PeonyPatch · 11/10/2025 20:51

My DH and I were just discussing this, and we both agreed that it’s for the best that they don’t know. I work in MH, and very few people who experience childhood sexual abuse are able to recover from it or overcome it really. It’s truly sad and inconceivably traumatic.

Whilst I won’t be popping open the champagne this evening, my thoughts truly are with the victims. I really don’t mean that as a virtue signalling post, I genuinely feel for them to be perfectly honest.

I think I have to agree, purely because the effects could be absolutely devastating. Those poor souls have suffered enough, I pray for their happiness.

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PeonyPatch · 11/10/2025 20:54

Butchyrestingface · 11/10/2025 20:52

I was thinking the victims would need to be told from the perspective of when, assuming they've been adopted, they reach the age of 18 or beyond and maybe want to contact their birth mothers. They would need to know why this is highly inadvisable.

That’s a very valid point. Would they omit some information though? For example, you were removed from your mother’s care due to abuse / sexual abuse. I can’t imagine knowing the full story is going to do anybody any good.

NotrialNodeal · 11/10/2025 20:55

neverbeenskiing · 11/10/2025 20:32

I completely agree. The vast, vast majority of people agree that paedophilia is utterly abhorrent. It's hardly a bold or refreshing take. There's really no need for competitive outrage at Watkin's crimes or those rushing to declare how tickled pink they are that he's been murdered. Not to mention all the ignorant comments about "guards looking the other way" or paramedics and doctors being in no rush to try to save him from people who clearly have no clue what they're talking about.

What an odd comment. I'm interested in why you're upset with people's outrage at arguably the most immoral of crimes? If you think this thread is distasteful you don't have to read it and yet you did. Furthermore you have tried to admonish posters who express happiness at the news of his death. It's not a loss. He was irredeemable. Do you have sympathy for Ian Watkins perhaps? In what way are you more clued up that anybody else here? You're post is like a red flag. You're moral compass is way off....

Americano75 · 11/10/2025 20:55

PeonyPatch · 11/10/2025 20:54

That’s a very valid point. Would they omit some information though? For example, you were removed from your mother’s care due to abuse / sexual abuse. I can’t imagine knowing the full story is going to do anybody any good.

Yes, there must be a way to convey the information without including every detail. I can't even read them myself.

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BatchCookBabe · 11/10/2025 20:55

Americano75 · 11/10/2025 20:54

I think I have to agree, purely because the effects could be absolutely devastating. Those poor souls have suffered enough, I pray for their happiness.

Yes, let's hope those poor souls NEVER discover what happened. 🙏

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