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To wonder why so many pensioners are supporting Palestine Action, even willing to risk prison for it ?

288 replies

PrincessSophieFrederike · 10/10/2025 02:42

Palestine Action showed their true colours a long time ago. I strongly oppose a lot of Netanyahu's actions- I don't object to a protest for the humanitarian crisis in Gaza. That wasn't Palestine Action's agenda, though.

I would've thought people 60+ would have, on average, accumulated more wisdom. Young people have often been swept up into radical movements with dangerous agendas (look at 60s protestors who thought Castro & co.were nice etc). It's no excuse..but is a BIT easier to see why young people (student age) might fall for this kind of stuff. Also people now seem to have less media literacy, esp SM.

But why are 60+ year olds getting caught up in it?? Willing to go to prison? What is going on? This hasn't happened before with stuff like BLM or Extinction Rebellion, so what us going on now?

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Zonder · 10/10/2025 07:36

MrsTerryPratchett · 10/10/2025 02:53

My 80 yo old mum says it’s because they are happy to fight for the right to protest, assemble and speak freely to spare the young ‘uns the criminal record and possible jail terms.

good luck prison officers, you’ll need it.

I love your mum!

Zonder · 10/10/2025 07:37

ThreeDeafMice · 10/10/2025 03:22

I doubt if anyone will get a prison sentence. But if the courts hand out enough £1,000 fines some of Rachel Reeves' budget problems will be solved. We can think of it as a kind of reverse winter fuel payment - pensioners pay the government, instead of the other way around - for liberal left wing old people who volunteer.

A question to those who support these people: are you prepared to contribute to crowd funders to pay the fines for them? Or are you going to watch from the sidelines? 1,500 people at £1,000 a shot is a total of £15 million. Better dig deep.

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Absolutely. Good on them!

Cantwait4weightloss · 10/10/2025 07:38

Morningsleepin · 10/10/2025 04:06

Me too

Me three

RedAdmirals · 10/10/2025 07:38

Underthinker · 10/10/2025 06:13

£1.5 million

So now we know where all the rich pensioners are !

Go granny, you're doing the economy a favour !

JacknDiane · 10/10/2025 07:40

People 60+ have got more wisdom @PrincessSophieFrederike, that's why they support PA, because they believe what they see and not what they are told to believe. Gaza is in ruins, thousands upon thousands killed. Israel is sending out a message that they are the victims. Its clear who are the victims here.
People 60+ and people everywhere can see it.

RedAdmirals · 10/10/2025 07:41

beaniebabby · 10/10/2025 07:11

A lot of older people know a lot more about the history of whats happened in that region over many decades and base their views not just on recent history but things that have happened over time.

what evidence do you have for that?

Beats me how some posters can read minds and know the motivations and thought processes of septuagenerians !

beaniebabby · 10/10/2025 07:41

People 60+ have got more wisdom

How many of them voted for Brexit? 🤔

beaniebabby · 10/10/2025 07:42

@RedAdmirals I am sure I read that Brexit & Covid had shown that older people were increasingly more susceptible to radicalisation and fake news due to increased social media use and loneliness.

RedAdmirals · 10/10/2025 07:45

beaniebabby · 10/10/2025 07:41

People 60+ have got more wisdom

How many of them voted for Brexit? 🤔

How is Brexit relevant to radicalised grannies ??

Duh. 🤔

MrsFinkelstein · 10/10/2025 07:51

Just thinking of all the Just Stop Oil protesters - a big chunk of them were 60+

I think they've just moved from Climate to PA, it's an ongoing protest movement, mainly all performative.

If they really cared about Gaza or Palestine - there's many ways to protest without supporting Palestine Action (a group which attacked Security Guards and Police with sledgehammers).

They wanted to get arrested as part of JSO, same with this.

I personally also feel it is in part driven by antisemitism (overt & unconscious).

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 10/10/2025 07:51

The reason a load of OAPs are protesting in support of a proscribed terrorist group with the aim of getting arrested is because they’re silly old left-wing fools who want some attention.

Like all anti-Israel protesters their underlying motives for going to any gathering or march about Israel to shout and wave placards are also very unpleasant. But that’s not particular to pensioners.

RedAdmirals · 10/10/2025 07:52

HRchatter · 10/10/2025 07:04

Useless idiots, imprison the lot

Wrong post sorry.

ForWittyTealOP · 10/10/2025 07:53

Yriovd · 10/10/2025 06:26

You don’t condemn Hamas or October 7th? Wow.

Yep. Enough said by this terrorist sympathiser and Holocaust co-opter.

RedAdmirals · 10/10/2025 07:53

@JacknDiane "People 60+ and people everywhere can see it."

And the evidence for this is ???

beaniebabby · 10/10/2025 07:53

I think they've just moved from Climate to PA, it's an ongoing protest movement, mainly all performative.

Boredom I assume

beaniebabby · 10/10/2025 07:56

How is Brexit relevant to radicalised grannies

Only 40% ish voted to remain, this doesn't prove increased wisdom to me which is the post I replied to...

CagneyNYPD1 · 10/10/2025 07:57

TheFallenMadonna · 10/10/2025 07:03

My mum is in her 70s and protested at Greenham Common back in the 80s. Women-led protests were pretty widespread, so it might well be picking up where they left off, rather than suddenly embracing protest in their old age.

This. My mum is in her 80s now and would be out protesting if she could. She is of the generation who protested against apartheid, Thatcher, the war in Vietnam, for equality in the 70s. Those brave people don’t suddenly become less political as they age.

LakieLady · 10/10/2025 07:59

Today's pensioners, of which I am one, grew up in an era of protest and activism.

I was 8 when I went to a CND rally with my dad, 12 when I was allowed to go on an anti-Vietnam war march with a schoolfriend and her older siblings. In my teens I was at vigils against apartheid, in my twenties, I was collecting funds to support striking miners and attending days of action at Greenham Common.

And we have the time, being retired, and don't have to worry about getting arrested and missing work for court appearances!

RedAdmirals · 10/10/2025 08:00

HRchatter · 10/10/2025 07:04

Useless idiots, imprison the lot

Nooooo, please don't do it.
😮
It would mean I (and many others) will have to pay for them for months.

Fine them and set them to work scrubbing out the public lavvies, mucking out animal sanctuaries and litter picking on Brighton beach after a music festival.

BitOutOfPractice · 10/10/2025 08:01

Quite aside from the issues they are protesting about, the OP’s ageism is astounding.

60 years old is not elderly. Nor does reaching that age make you a doddery old fool without any fire in your belly or interest in the world around you.

RedAdmirals · 10/10/2025 08:03

beaniebabby · 10/10/2025 07:56

How is Brexit relevant to radicalised grannies

Only 40% ish voted to remain, this doesn't prove increased wisdom to me which is the post I replied to...

Actually - 37% of the electorate voted to leave, which was equivalent to 26.5% of the total UK population at the time. Of those taking part in the 2016 referendum, 52% voted to leave and 48% voted to remain in the EU.

If people chose not to engage with the process that's no-one's fault but theirs

beaniebabby · 10/10/2025 08:03

60 years old is not elderly

It's not young or middle aged, it's old. That isn't ageist.

scorpiogirly · 10/10/2025 08:05

Middle class lefty loonies I imagine.

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 10/10/2025 08:05

RedAdmirals · 10/10/2025 08:00

Nooooo, please don't do it.
😮
It would mean I (and many others) will have to pay for them for months.

Fine them and set them to work scrubbing out the public lavvies, mucking out animal sanctuaries and litter picking on Brighton beach after a music festival.

TBH I wouldn’t bother with any of that.

Some £50,000 fines would do it. OAPs are no more willing to lose their savings or their house for their ‘cause’ than anyone else.

I’m loving the nostalgia for Great Protests of Yesteryear. 🙄

beaniebabby · 10/10/2025 08:07

@RedAdmirals of those who voted more older people voted to leave than younger people. This doesn't prove increased wisdom no matter how you want to twist it.

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