To wonder why so many pensioners are supporting Palestine Action, even willing to risk prison for it ?

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Palestine Action showed their true colours a long time ago. I strongly oppose a lot of Netanyahu's actions- I don't object to a protest for the humanitarian crisis in Gaza. That wasn't Palestine Action's agenda, though.

I would've thought people 60+ would have, on average, accumulated more wisdom. Young people have often been swept up into radical movements with dangerous agendas (look at 60s protestors who thought Castro & co.were nice etc). It's no excuse..but is a BIT easier to see why young people (student age) might fall for this kind of stuff. Also people now seem to have less media literacy, esp SM.

But why are 60+ year olds getting caught up in it?? Willing to go to prison? What is going on? This hasn't happened before with stuff like BLM or Extinction Rebellion, so what us going on now?

@AlloftheTime 💯 and also the arrest of a woman last week for holding a sign saying she disagrees with the decision to designate Palestine action a terrorist org.
it’s becoming an affront to democracy and quickly and frighteningly a police state.

All of this.

I admire them.

Please tell me this is a typo - Jesus fucking Christ - you don’t condemn Hamas?

Yeah, 80 year olds are common throwers of molotov cocktails 🙄🙄🙄

Because they know they haven’t got to protect jobs unlike younger generations and are from generations that protested - anti apartite, green ham common etc. they’re incredibly brave. When looking at what we’re up against as a society I worry that younger generations don’t seem to have the same fire

My mum has gone to a protest (not been arrested). She grew up in a dictatorship and feels the erosion of the right to protest is a dangerous slippery slope. Especially with fascists like Farage waiting in the wings.

I doubt it given the rest of their post. I wonder if the poster knows what happened on October 7th. Someone listed some of the barbaric brutalities, not sure how they can skip past that,

Whatever your political beliefs, not condemning the brutal murder of 1200 people is deeply troubling and shocking. Just because someone is Israeli that makes them fair game for murder? I assume due to the actions of the Israeli government.

by that same logic, people in London who died during the 7/7 bombings were also fair game due to the Uk governments complicity in overseas wars in predominantly Muslim countries.

It's not brave it's silly. There are many pro gaza groups and organisations they can support that aren't proscribed terror groups.

Initially no one knew they were a terrorist group -or at least I didn’t - I think it’s the Govs fault but maybe it’s the media’s -it’s surely a BIG thing to label a mainly U.K. based group terrorists. Where were the big headlines or announcements????

Also swopping MPs around all the time no one knows who is the Home Sec so their pronouncements are ignored

Do you know anything about the history of Hamas? Did you know that Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005 and removed any settlers living there, and it was only when Hamas was elected in 2007 and refused to rescind their anti semitic charter calling for the obliteration of Israel that the blockade was set up?

Do you know that Hamas has received billions from supportive regimes and instead of using it to build homes, hospitals and provide food for the citizens of Gaza, they instead focused on building tunnels and importing materials from Egypt to make weapons to continue attacking Israel?

Do you know that it’s a lot more complicated than a silly analogy?

by that same logic, people in London who died during the 7/7 bombings were also fair game due to the Uk governments complicity in overseas wars in predominantly Muslim countries.

Exactly, and the Manchester Arena attack. That's why I don't get this logic because it's means that any future terrorist attack (& there are considerable threats) are deserved. Plus it's the same excuse the Far right use for their growing support.

@ByShyRaven no. I do not believe that the Israeli kids murderer are fair game. Hell no, but I place the blame firmly where it belongs. On Netanyahu and his despicable and apartheid and evil government

My mum is in her 70s and protested at Greenham Common back in the 80s. Women-led protests were pretty widespread, so it might well be picking up where they left off, rather than suddenly embracing protest in their old age.

Initially no one knew they were a terrorist group -or at least I didn’t -

Didn't they cause millions of pounds of damage to army planes?

@beachcitygirl so Hamas have no responsibility?

Maybe because people more informed and knowledgeable than you actually know what’s going on.

Palestine Action was ramping up its ‘direct action’ and the Home Office decided they were a terrorist threat under our law. They’re not some sweet fluffy protest group.

Or are you saying you actually know more?

Useless idiots, imprison the lot

No need to discuss rights or wrongs of Israeli action.

Are there no other groups that are complaining about the awful experience of Gaza residents, why is Palestine Action the ONLY group these pensioners support in protesting against Israeli action in Gaza?

Why Palestine Action and not other group to support?

The question should be, why have they been labelled a terrorist organisation?

Presumably due to the below

"The home secretary stood by her decision to proscribe Palestine Action, which she said had been "involved in violent attacks" and "major criminal damage against national security infrastructure"."

A lot of older people know a lot more about the history of whats happened in that region over many decades and base their views not just on recent history but things that have happened over time.

Do you know that Israel has restricted water supplies to Palestinians for decades?

A lot of older people know a lot more about the history of whats happened in that region over many decades and base their views not just on recent history but things that have happened over time.

what evidence do you have for that?

If you watch the video at 1: 10: 50 you'll see why. The woman screaming is either so vulnerable or stupid that she has no idea Hamas are bad. The other credible alternative is that she is a raging antisemitic who jumped on the chance to express herself.

Either way, the average age of the protesters (apart from a few straggling student losers and angry Asian men) is a sign that the movement is thankfully dying.

https://www.youtube.com/live/wb84mvWmvfo?si=73pwef8l7GtY6DuM

I am not saying Israel is blameless. I was responding to the PP who said she did not condemn Hamas.