Trump should get Nobel Peace Prize

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Aibu

So he has achieved a peace deal. Anyone else done that recently?

Give him the Peace Prize. Then go on and get Putin to agree peace.

@rriffraff I think it's pretty widely agreed that Obama really didn't deserve it (and I'm an Obama fan). That doesn't make Trump deserving of it.

That's certainly the idea put out by those around him, that his capriciousness and unpredictability might be beneficial. I think the truth is that it leads other world leaders to treat him like a child in most instances.

The fact is that Biden, like him or not, did basically hammer out the framework for this deal. But things have gotten considerably more desperate since then and both sides are more motivated to come to an agreement. It's also in Netanyahu's interest to keep Trump on side. And the bottom line is that Trump's in office now and in fairness, does get to take credit, assuming the deal 'takes'. There's a lot of distance between now and actual peace.

I'd also say (as an American) that what he's doing in the US - bringing military troops from one state to another over the specific objections of the leadership of the invaded states is both violating the Federalist setup of the US and essentially starting a civil war. You cannot, as the leader, turn states against each other and credibly step away from that claim.

I'm so so happy they have agreed on a cease fire and I hope it will last but no trump shouldn't grt the nobel prize. By ignoring international institutions (like the UN) and ignoring international law or condoning breaches of international law he has made the world a more dangerous place for all of us. He has created a world where personality, nepotism and relationships between individuals is more important than the law.

And who knows if Netanyahu would have dared to carry out all those atrocities if he knew he didn't have trump's unwavering support?

Also, the way he is going after his own people and anyone who disagrees with him is scary. He's a dictator and he emboldens other dictators. He doesn't stand for peace

Edited to add: i love obama and wish he was still president but I still csnt understand for the life of me why he got the nobel peace prize. They really trivialised it with that one.

Here are my Nobel Prize nominations:

Chemistry: Pablo Escobar
Economic Sciences: Liz Truss
Literature: The guy who wrote the marketing slogan "I love carpets, me!"
Medicine: The Sackler family, for services to opioid addiction.
Peace: Donald Trump

The award speech was a masterpiece, they listed all of Maria Corina Machado's achievements and how they aligned with the peace prize remit, heavily emphasising her work in ensuring fair elections, trying to broker peaceful coalition between differing political parties. Unifying her country,
It felt like it was directed at all the reasons trump would never achieve it.

I agree. It really made my day!

Thank you. Personally I think he could be very dangerous because he is so reactive to situations and can easily be upset if everyone doesn't treat him like he's very special.

😂great

Thanks.

I've linked the BBC report to it. Better luck next time Trump - try a bit harder 😉

https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/articles/c89d4q9e382o

Watched a great short video by a person on the NPP Committee about how it is awarded and decided and it was absolutely obvious that Trump could not win it - that really put my mind at ease.

Ilk???? What ilk is that?

You don’t need to be of any ilk to think that Trump deserves nothing.
He doesn’t have peace in his own country. He’s an idiotic autocrat.
The Norwegians have made a good decision

Is no one remembering that every word that comes out of that thing’s mouth is either utterly incoherent or a downright lie?? I can’t think of anyone less deserving of a Nobel Peace prize than the fluorescent fuckwit. These awards are supposed to represent recognition of someone who works selflessly to improve humanity. Trump wants it like a toddler wanting a fucking lollipop, and the fact that he himself is demanding it just sums up the orange thing to a T. I can’t bring myself to call it a man. It’s despicable.

He puts a lot of energy and effort trying to promote peace. Maybe his peace though.

The guy is almost 80 years old and has spent huge amounts of energy and time flying around trying to achieve peace in Ukraine and the Middle East when really he could just walk away from that and focus on his own country and issues.

I don't think the peace prize is solely about results. it's about the effort that is made. So whether peace is actually achieved is kind of irrelevant to me in awarding the prize, its about the amount of time and effort that goes into trying to achieve it.

Still the guy is a very devisive character and my guess is if he brought peace to the entire world there are many people that would still hate him and still think he was not worthy of any reward.

That's politics these days though, cheering for your own camp and being hypocritical about the achievements of others who aren't aligned with your side.

I guess the question remains whether the peace prize is about the person who actually does the most to promote peace. Or the person with the right politics that actually does the most to promote peace.

It should have been awarded to Habeas Corpus, just so that Trump could be asked for a reaction ...

Are you suggesting the committee should have fiddled the rules and let Trump be considered even though he was out of the nomination window?

Why do you think Trump should have special treatment?

You may as well be arguing for Netanyahu to win.

But you're arguing simultaneously that it's about the effort not the end results and decrying people for being hypocritical about achievements. Which is it? Do we applaud leaders like toddlers for effort? Or do we judge them by accomplishment?

And while he has made some efforts in the Middle East (amidst quite a lot of further enriching himself, his family and his cronies), it's pretty laughable to assert he's done much of anything to promote peace in Ukraine other than flip flop wildly and randomly.

Agree
I think we’ve watched the same thing
Although they are concerned they’ll be hit with sanctions whilst Trump throws his toys out of the pram

I'm anything but a raging lefty, but what he is doing to his own country and democracy is abhorrent

Yes of course we should give the guy instilling fear and hatred in his own country the peace prize, makes total sense. The very same guy who is also having families rounded up at gunpoint on the streets. I have no idea why he didn’t get it in truth, a travesty…

Utter nonsense

This year's prize has been awarded today. HNRFT, so apologies if I'm the millionth person to say.

If the cease-fire and peace is still holding by January 31, 2026, then I imagine he's likely to receive it. Even if it's awarded to the Office of the President, to reflect the input of Biden too.

This. He simply wasn't eligible, even if this peace deal was entirely devised by him (it wasn't) and holds.

It would be like awarding an Oscar for a film that has'nt actually been made.

The orange toddler would have no issue with being awarded an honour for something he hadn't done.

What a cunt he is. Unfair to cunts I realise, and I should; know, I have one.

They decide them in January, when no peace anywhere, and Israel were still bombing Gaza this morning. Best wait and see next week anyway.