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Edinburgh Waverley station needs me.

311 replies

TallOrLong · 08/10/2025 19:37

Here are the facts:

  • I go to many train stations, I never ever get confused elsewhere.
  • I never go to Waverley without walking round in a big loop in a state of confusion.
  • From observation I am not the only one.

I am prepared to provide executive advice. Payment terms are a baguette from upper crust, a bag of percy pigs from M&S and some scottish fudge from, well, somewhere that sells good fudge.

This is not actually an AIBU, because I am not being unreasonable. I am on a train leaving Edinburgh having finally found my platform. See you next time for the same fun again Waverley!

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GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 08/10/2025 21:47

It can’t be as bad as the Paris Gare du Nord. Anyone who likes to think the U.K. is shit, should try taking the Eurostar and comparing the Gare D N with St Pancras. IMO it’s especially noticeable on the way back.

Added to which, I gather the French trains are on strike yet again today. Sister in law who was flying in from Singapore today, and needed to get to the Dijon area, has had to hire a car and drive, instead - after a very long flight.

TallOrLong · 08/10/2025 21:49

ForestFlowerFairy · 08/10/2025 21:42

5 pages of comments and not a single person has questioned your demands for payment "Payment terms are a baguette from upper crust, a bag of percy pigs from M&S and some scottish fudge"
Are you mad???
Think of the cost, surely we can negotiate - would you like a pony?? A house??
This service is obviously needed but the payment may well tip the National rail over the edge

You possibly underestimate the value of an upper crust baguette to me. Yum yum yum!

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SorrelForbes · 08/10/2025 21:51

Lovemycat2023 · 08/10/2025 21:39

New street is impossible to leave correctly, as well as impossible to find your platform.

There is a distinct lack of correctly positioned exit signage at BNS. The weirdest thing (to me anyway, who spent a lot of my childhood holidays arriving and departing from there), is that despite all the refurb and changes 'up top', once you've negotiated the zoning and travelled down to platform level, it's almost exactly the same as it was in the 80s. The coldest platforms ever!

helpfulperson · 08/10/2025 21:52

Doidontimmm · 08/10/2025 19:38

You just follow the signs??

Have you actually been to Edinburgh Waverly? If only it was that simple.

TallOrLong · 08/10/2025 21:52

RadiatorDrying · 08/10/2025 21:32

To take things a little international, I'm always amazed at how developed St Pancreas (as it's always been known to me) is compared to Gare du Nord or Bruxelles Midi. It's one of those odd moments where as a Brit you expect central European rail stations to be much more modern than UK ones as they were back in the 1980s and realise that actually its more the other way round these days. I didn't think it was possible for a manufacturer to create a seat as uncomfortable as the ones at Midi. They should win some sort of reverse industry award. And there are only about 3 of them.

Sorry to stray so far from Edinburgh, @TallOrLong but lets face it in the time it takes you to work out where platform 20 is at Waverley you could have travelled from Scotland to Paris, eaten a freshly baked croissant and made it back home with some duty free Guerlain before the platform for the 18.34 to Dundee has been located...

A freshly baked croissant. I’m listening (I mean, I like upper crust baguettes, I’m totally signed up for authentic french goods!)

And now you mention it, Dundee surely the windiest station. I mean the wind is so bad it basically bent the whole platforms into a curve.

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RadiatorDrying · 08/10/2025 21:53

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 08/10/2025 21:47

It can’t be as bad as the Paris Gare du Nord. Anyone who likes to think the U.K. is shit, should try taking the Eurostar and comparing the Gare D N with St Pancras. IMO it’s especially noticeable on the way back.

Added to which, I gather the French trains are on strike yet again today. Sister in law who was flying in from Singapore today, and needed to get to the Dijon area, has had to hire a car and drive, instead - after a very long flight.

This is exactly what I was saying in a post a short-time ago @GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER St Pancras is like heaven compared to Gare du Nord. And Bruxelles Midi is even worse. It's smaller but even more disorganised if that is possible. And the Belgians appear to have passed a law banning digital screens on platforms. So no-one really knows where they're going. It's all a bit pot luck as to whether you end up in Cologne or Ghent!

BoarBrush · 08/10/2025 21:53

TallOrLong · 08/10/2025 20:54

Ahh! I don’t think I have ever departed from Doncaster, only passed through (and to be fair the train driver has to pass exams to be deemed competent to do this).

I am intrigued, and that was before you mentioned awesome pub.

Ya know, that's what waverley is really missing, a good pub, Centrals got plenty around it. I'm an absolute genius when I've had a few, so maybe that's all it takes. A bar at the entrance with a bogof offer and 25% rail discount, sold!!

RampantIvy · 08/10/2025 21:55

I'll raise you - Manchester Piccadilly

TallOrLong · 08/10/2025 21:56

user1476613140 · 08/10/2025 21:21

Again, the guy in the wacky hat is all over accessibility at Waverley. It's his job! He is used to helping people from all places arriving in Waverley with mobility issues or if they're lost and unsure where to go.

I have never seen wacky hat man! Do you have to show a certain level of puzzlement before he appears?

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OdeToTheNorthWestWind · 08/10/2025 21:56

RampantIvy · 08/10/2025 21:55

I'll raise you - Manchester Piccadilly

Please don't. I'm still having nightmares 😳

BoarBrush · 08/10/2025 21:56

TallOrLong · 08/10/2025 21:52

A freshly baked croissant. I’m listening (I mean, I like upper crust baguettes, I’m totally signed up for authentic french goods!)

And now you mention it, Dundee surely the windiest station. I mean the wind is so bad it basically bent the whole platforms into a curve.

My dad was in Perth Royal for months as a kid, I cannot tell you how many times my mum had us in hysterics about being cold. That was 30 year ago, sure it's improved now...

RadiatorDrying · 08/10/2025 21:58

TallOrLong · 08/10/2025 21:52

A freshly baked croissant. I’m listening (I mean, I like upper crust baguettes, I’m totally signed up for authentic french goods!)

And now you mention it, Dundee surely the windiest station. I mean the wind is so bad it basically bent the whole platforms into a curve.

I've surprised myself at mentioning Dundee as I try to not allow that station to occupy my mind at all. For two reasons:

  1. The Tay Bridge Disaster. I know it was a million years ago but still, seeing the old bits of the original bridge in the water as you go over the replacement...<shudders>

  2. When Tam Dalyell was MP for that part of Dundee (and Father of the House) he reported to Parliament that bit of the Tay Bridge kept falling off and landing in the gardens of his constituents 😮

Hence Dundee and I are not overly simpatico.

TallOrLong · 08/10/2025 21:58

BoarBrush · 08/10/2025 21:56

My dad was in Perth Royal for months as a kid, I cannot tell you how many times my mum had us in hysterics about being cold. That was 30 year ago, sure it's improved now...

Nope. They put the V&A museum in, all very nice, but useless as a windbreaker.

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Hoardasurass · 08/10/2025 22:01

OdeToTheNorthWestWind · 08/10/2025 21:28

It's beginning to sound more like an Escape Room than a railway station. Must go and have a look.

Note to self - take breadcrumbs.........

Take pebbles the pigeons will eat your breadcrumbs

TressiliansStone · 08/10/2025 22:02

BoarBrush · 08/10/2025 21:53

Ya know, that's what waverley is really missing, a good pub, Centrals got plenty around it. I'm an absolute genius when I've had a few, so maybe that's all it takes. A bar at the entrance with a bogof offer and 25% rail discount, sold!!

The Malt Shovel on Cockburn Street.

The catch is you have to escape from Waverley first.

RadiatorDrying · 08/10/2025 22:03

OdeToTheNorthWestWind · 08/10/2025 21:56

Please don't. I'm still having nightmares 😳

I was at Piccadilly on Saturday when Euston was up the wall and anyone going north was told to head for Manchester and try to travel on from there. I do use Man Picc a few times a year and just remembered that platform 14 specifically needs to be added to The List of Draughtiest Train Stations In The World. Near the top.

Also why are the travelators never working there? Are they Man Picc's equivalent of the Bham New St fake Pret I wonder? 🤔

TallOrLong · 08/10/2025 22:04

RadiatorDrying · 08/10/2025 21:58

I've surprised myself at mentioning Dundee as I try to not allow that station to occupy my mind at all. For two reasons:

  1. The Tay Bridge Disaster. I know it was a million years ago but still, seeing the old bits of the original bridge in the water as you go over the replacement...<shudders>

  2. When Tam Dalyell was MP for that part of Dundee (and Father of the House) he reported to Parliament that bit of the Tay Bridge kept falling off and landing in the gardens of his constituents 😮

Hence Dundee and I are not overly simpatico.

Point 1: I agree. But is there a better train bridge related view? I’ll even take the Ribblehead lovers on over this.

I was unaware of point 2. I need to read more about this!

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TheNightingalesStarling · 08/10/2025 22:05

BoarBrush · 08/10/2025 21:53

Ya know, that's what waverley is really missing, a good pub, Centrals got plenty around it. I'm an absolute genius when I've had a few, so maybe that's all it takes. A bar at the entrance with a bogof offer and 25% rail discount, sold!!

Isn't that illegal in Scotland?
Or even just mentioning alcohol and a special offer in the same sentence?

Hoogieflip · 08/10/2025 22:06

All these years thinking that I was a total eejit because I can't work Waverly out.

TallOrLong · 08/10/2025 22:06

RampantIvy · 08/10/2025 21:55

I'll raise you - Manchester Piccadilly

This doesn’t really count as nobody really truly honestly knows if they need to be at Victoria or Piccadilly, so you start on the back foot. It’s not a true comparison.

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RadiatorDrying · 08/10/2025 22:08

TallOrLong · 08/10/2025 22:06

This doesn’t really count as nobody really truly honestly knows if they need to be at Victoria or Piccadilly, so you start on the back foot. It’s not a true comparison.

Or Oxford Road. Or Deansgate (which has surprisingly beautiful tiling.) And you can throw Salford Crescent in that mix these days.

TallOrLong · 08/10/2025 22:10

Hoardasurass · 08/10/2025 21:20

@TallOrLong have you seen the plans for the revamped Waverley with super and lower platforms? Yes that's correct its going to be a 2 story train station with trains arriving and leaving from both levels 🫣

This cannot be true. This is a new Scottish style horror genre, surely “ways to make Waverley worse”.

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Menapausemum1974 · 08/10/2025 22:15

LegoLandslide · 08/10/2025 20:20

I once tried to meet my sister in Edinburgh Waverley. We gave up and each got on possibly separate but possibly the same train to the other, smaller station (name escapes me?) and found each other there instead.

Pleased it's not just me!

@LegoLandslide hay market

TallOrLong · 08/10/2025 22:16

OdeToTheNorthWestWind · 08/10/2025 21:04

You don't know what a windy railway station is until you've been on the Settle/Carlisle line. Standing at Ribblehead Station (N Yorks) with the wind coming at you from all four points of the compass (sometimes all at once!), it can whip a fur-lined Icelandic knitted hat off your head in a nanosecond...

This is true, but surely anyone is there only because:
they are walkers (in which case surely they knew the score)
or
came to experience Bronte land, in which case how do they think there were all those billowing gowns in the books?

I’m also not entirely sure we can, in all good faith, put the beauty of Yorkshire against the ladies toilets on platform 2 of Peterborough and think it a fair contest?

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OdeToTheNorthWestWind · 08/10/2025 22:19

TallOrLong · 08/10/2025 22:16

This is true, but surely anyone is there only because:
they are walkers (in which case surely they knew the score)
or
came to experience Bronte land, in which case how do they think there were all those billowing gowns in the books?

I’m also not entirely sure we can, in all good faith, put the beauty of Yorkshire against the ladies toilets on platform 2 of Peterborough and think it a fair contest?

We really, really need the laughing emoji back!