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Do you believe in God/a higher power?

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CuriousAboutWhatYouThink · 08/10/2025 07:09

Not religion. I have no time for organised religion and the associated man made rules.

But do you believe in 'something'?

For context, my grandad was a CofE vicar but my parent rebelled against it and we were brought up broadly l in the religion (eg we celebrated main religious festivals like Easter and Christmas) but not as practising Christians and without a particular belief in God.

As an adult, I have friends of different faiths and none and it's something we have discussed from time to time. It's also something I used to discuss with my grandma who had a very strong belief in God but also believed the Bible until she became older when she still had a strong faith but admitted she thought the Bible was largely nonsense!

I suppose I've always felt that there is 'something' but I refer to it as the universe. I don't know, I always feel that there has been 'something' looking out for me.

That doesn't mean bad things have never happened because they have and religion/belief doesn't protect anyone from that. And it doesn't mean my life is anywhere near perfect because it's not. But the universe has always seemed to 'step in' when needed.

I don't know. I'm going through a tough time at the moment but I have a feeling everything will turn out to be OK because it always does.

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SorcererGaheris · 10/10/2025 20:10

GarlicBreadStan · 10/10/2025 20:04

I don't know much about the Bee Gees, but I will happily be Maurice 😂

@GarlicBreadStan

Maurice was a very friendly, sociable, outgoing and down-to-earth fellow (and also Robin's twin.) Robin was quite introverted and I've always considered him the 'nerd' of the group because he was very bookish.

thisishowloween · 10/10/2025 20:10

SorcererGaheris · 10/10/2025 20:09

@thisishowloween

Am I to take that as an indication that you fancied him in the past? 😊

I’m saying nothing 🤐

thisishowloween · 10/10/2025 20:11

BedlingtonFloof · 10/10/2025 20:03

A most enjoyable thread. Can we make this our official thread anthem? .

Definitely 😂

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 10/10/2025 20:11

thecatneuterer · 10/10/2025 19:58

Evil wrench? Is that a wrench that breaks when you try to use it causing heavy piping to fall on your head or something? I imagine Temu wrenches are fairly evil

I do have a pair of mole grips that can jam at inopportune moments and that have caused me to call them all sorts of inappropriate names so maybe that's what he/she is thinking about.

GarlicBreadStan · 10/10/2025 20:12

SorcererGaheris · 10/10/2025 20:10

@GarlicBreadStan

Maurice was a very friendly, sociable, outgoing and down-to-earth fellow (and also Robin's twin.) Robin was quite introverted and I've always considered him the 'nerd' of the group because he was very bookish.

That's funny, because I'm probably the most unsociable person I know 😂 I would say I'm friendly and down-to-earth though, so that's a good thing 😂

SorcererGaheris · 10/10/2025 20:12

thisishowloween · 10/10/2025 20:10

I’m saying nothing 🤐

@thisishowloween

Hey, Barry was a good-looking man back in the day! Great hair, too!

I've never fancied any of the brothers, but I've loved their music since I became a fan in 2001 at the age of 12 and came to really like quite a lot of what I have been able to understand/perceive of their respective personalities.

RealPerson · 10/10/2025 20:14

Yes we all saw how friendly you are @GarlicBreadStan

SorcererGaheris · 10/10/2025 20:15

I must say, I am exceptionally proud that I have managed to work my beloved Bee Gees into the discussion on this thread!

GarlicBreadStan · 10/10/2025 20:15

@SorcererGaheris @thisishowloween I genuinely hope I do run into both of you on different threads in the future. I've had a really shit week and having this totally random conversation has really cheered me up. I've laughed properly for the first time in a long time, so thank you.

Now I shall go back to being a supposed satanic whore instead of spilling my feelings on the internet 😂

GarlicBreadStan · 10/10/2025 20:16

RealPerson · 10/10/2025 20:14

Yes we all saw how friendly you are @GarlicBreadStan

Honestly I really am quite friendly. I'm just also a massive wind up merchant and I have too much time on my hands

thisishowloween · 10/10/2025 20:18

GarlicBreadStan · 10/10/2025 20:15

@SorcererGaheris @thisishowloween I genuinely hope I do run into both of you on different threads in the future. I've had a really shit week and having this totally random conversation has really cheered me up. I've laughed properly for the first time in a long time, so thank you.

Now I shall go back to being a supposed satanic whore instead of spilling my feelings on the internet 😂

Ah that's really lovely :)

I name-change a lot so you may not recognise me, but this has been a fab thread - especially the bit about fleas having morals!

daddysgirlnot · 10/10/2025 20:19

GlastoNinja · 08/10/2025 07:23

I don’t believe in god but I do believe that the Universe is fucking amazing and the power and energy it holds is immense, that by extension, the way nature works is awesome and is what puts us here and gives us our place on the planet.
I believe that we as humans choose what we do with that and have the choice to respect it and eachother or fuck it up.

So I suppose that science and nature is the higher power that I believe in and I try and respect that through how I engage with it and also how I relate to other people.

I believe that organised religion is a man made tool to control people and is usually based on male ego.

Great answer. I agree.

RealPerson · 10/10/2025 20:20

I like when we can have a laugh on here

Lemonadepie · 10/10/2025 20:20

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Because it’s been written in a storybook a long time ago makes it true? Maybe the authors of this bible book simply wrote these threats to scare people into behaving in certain ways. Surely people don’t honestly believe that nowadays?

GarlicBreadStan · 10/10/2025 20:21

thisishowloween · 10/10/2025 20:18

Ah that's really lovely :)

I name-change a lot so you may not recognise me, but this has been a fab thread - especially the bit about fleas having morals!

I think this is the funniest thread I've ever seen, and the only funny thread I've been a part of 😂

Parker231 · 11/10/2025 09:48

GarlicBreadStan · 10/10/2025 20:21

I think this is the funniest thread I've ever seen, and the only funny thread I've been a part of 😂

I’m trying to get the dog and cat behave in a more godly manner - unfortunately I think the atheist humans in the household have corrupted them 🤣

GarlicBreadStan · 11/10/2025 10:00

Parker231 · 11/10/2025 09:48

I’m trying to get the dog and cat behave in a more godly manner - unfortunately I think the atheist humans in the household have corrupted them 🤣

One of my cats jumped on the kitchen side earlier. I gasped and called her a Devilish Whore 😂

RealPerson · 11/10/2025 10:03

Lol

thisishowloween · 11/10/2025 10:08

Parker231 · 11/10/2025 09:48

I’m trying to get the dog and cat behave in a more godly manner - unfortunately I think the atheist humans in the household have corrupted them 🤣

How would a cat or dog behave "godly" anyway? 😂

SorcererGaheris · 11/10/2025 10:33

thisishowloween · 11/10/2025 10:08

How would a cat or dog behave "godly" anyway? 😂

@thisishowloween

Cats are superior to humans and are essentially gods and goddesses anyway (in my view.) I support racial supremacy - FELINE supremacy!

thisishowloween · 11/10/2025 10:38

SorcererGaheris · 11/10/2025 10:33

@thisishowloween

Cats are superior to humans and are essentially gods and goddesses anyway (in my view.) I support racial supremacy - FELINE supremacy!

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My cats would certainly agree with you Grin

Thought they weren't very Christian yesterday - one stole some chicken out of the sandwich I was making, and another got in the bin and ate the leftover cream out of the tub 😂he's blind and arthritic so maybe it was a feline miracle!

SorcererGaheris · 11/10/2025 10:41

thisishowloween · 11/10/2025 10:38

My cats would certainly agree with you Grin

Thought they weren't very Christian yesterday - one stole some chicken out of the sandwich I was making, and another got in the bin and ate the leftover cream out of the tub 😂he's blind and arthritic so maybe it was a feline miracle!

@thisishowloween

They sound like Pagan Gods and Goddesses to me. 😊

GarlicBreadStan · 11/10/2025 10:53

SorcererGaheris · 11/10/2025 10:41

@thisishowloween

They sound like Pagan Gods and Goddesses to me. 😊

You know, I've been doing a little bit of research (by a little bit, I mean a little bit - I only woke up a couple of hours ago and have been playing Minecraft with my kid) and genuinely, Paganism does sound like a very respectful (and respectable) religion. I wouldn't say I've been converted but I have a lot of respect for your religion

SorcererGaheris · 11/10/2025 10:56

GarlicBreadStan · 11/10/2025 10:53

You know, I've been doing a little bit of research (by a little bit, I mean a little bit - I only woke up a couple of hours ago and have been playing Minecraft with my kid) and genuinely, Paganism does sound like a very respectful (and respectable) religion. I wouldn't say I've been converted but I have a lot of respect for your religion

@GarlicBreadStan

Thank you for you comment! One thing I probably need to say is that Paganism isn't just one religion; it's a umbrella term for multiple religions that are 'pagan', if that makes sense.

Wicca and modern Druidry are both pagan religions, as is modern Heathenry.

Celtic Paganism, Hellenic paganism (paganism which is centred around the Greek Gods) and Kemetic paganism (Paganism centred around the Egyptian gods) are all their own individual paths/religions within paganism.

So 'Paganism' is basically a collection of various pagan religions, rather than just one faith itself. 😊

GarlicBreadStan · 11/10/2025 10:58

SorcererGaheris · 11/10/2025 10:56

@GarlicBreadStan

Thank you for you comment! One thing I probably need to say is that Paganism isn't just one religion; it's a umbrella term for multiple religions that are 'pagan', if that makes sense.

Wicca and modern Druidry are both pagan religions, as is modern Heathenry.

Celtic Paganism, Hellenic paganism (paganism which is centred around the Greek Gods) and Kemetic paganism (Paganism centred around the Egyptian gods) are all their own individual paths/religions within paganism.

So 'Paganism' is basically a collection of various pagan religions, rather than just one faith itself. 😊

Oh yes, I just used it as an umbrella term. I've been playing the game Hades which focusses on the Greek Gods and it's been part of my research as I'm hyperfixated on it right now 😂

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