To think British people just hate anyone making good money

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I have seen countless posts where a poster who is high earner and will mention struggling and then they will get barrage of hate on being a high earner.
Most people on MN support the fact that anyone making over 100k shouldn't get free funded hours or child benefit as if their DC don't deserve anything.

Similarly seen so much hate on landlords and landladies as if everyone should give away their homes for free to other people. Even if they did sell it all, then there won't be much houses available for the renters.

Have seen hatred on big corporation and tech and even small businesses for charging £5 for a coffee.
Why do British people hate anyone making decent money or doing entrepreneurship? Are we in a race to bottom? Why can't we take inspiration from others who are doing well and try to do better for ourselves than the endless envy?

I wish I knew how to become rich. A roadmap!

Free childcare is there to help people who take a bigger hit by going back to work. It's not about whether a child is deserving of it. If you're earning over £100k you can afford to pay for it.

Many children don't receive free school meals and it's not because schools think those kids don't deserve to be fed.

And your point on landlords, I've not seen anyone suggest landlords give away their properties. I have seen a lot of posts from "reluctant" landlords complaining about having to be a landlord. Easy answer is to sell it. Not many landlords will be in it for the good of providing a service, and maybe if more houses were available to buy there wouldn't be such a need for a rental market.

After my initial comment, I found myself with even more thoughts to share.

Socialism seems to function effectively when the wealthy fund everything while the less fortunate benefit. Despite disliking the wealthy, they still rely on their money to support public services and benefits, avoiding contributing enough themselves.

It's no surprise that some people aren't motivated to climb the social ladder—if the wealthy are footing the bill, there's little incentive to strive for higher salaries when others are covering the costs.

More than half of my income goes to taxes to support those who didn’t make the same choices I did, and while I view it as a civic duty, it’s disheartening that many of the people I help seem to resent me. I understand why some wealthy individuals choose to move elsewhere—there are countries where financial contributions are genuinely appreciated.

Also, I consider the middle class part of the “wealthy” group since, in reality, they receive the same level of criticism from the poor as the rich do, so it feels fair to include them in the wealthy category.

I think the trick is to have rich parents. So just do that.
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And then be such a nuisance that your business partners pay you whatever you like to leave. Worked for Musk.

I have lived in US and the culture is so different there, entrepreneur and money is celebrated there and they have such different relationship to wealth and success.

You'd also get pulled to shreds in nearly all of the US to call 100k struggling.

Also, in some of the US, prosperity gospel means that celebration has a very different tone - it basically means you've been chosen by God for that wealth. I'm quite happy the UK doesn't have that.

No wonder millionaires are leaving UK in record numbers

But they're still buying assets including businesses here, since the law doesn't stop people not in the UK from doing that.

The data won't fully get into that or be able to fully gather the growing trend of the very wealthy to avoid tax by spending less than half a year which means in at least 3 different countries, sometimes referred to as the three countries rule. Plenty will have the UK in their rotation with those assets.

Its unbelievable that so many people act so ignorant of the fact at one UK millionaire will create more jobs and pay more taxes than at least 3-4 families from the lower quadrant and essentially subsidise their livelihood by contributing more to government coffers

One might do that, but it's not automatic.

And some of those millionaires and their companies are also buying up the assets like housing, driving up the prices and creating false scarcity impacting every other quadrant in a distinctly negative fashion. Maybe the UK government wouldn't need so much in to pay the benefits to keep the lower quadrant of workers afloat if our basics hadn't been fucked over by the continued asset and other wealth inequality.

What about the London flats that no one can afford to live in because real estate is treated as an investment by oil sheiks/Russian oligarchs and left empty?

It's about 1 in 15 in the US vs 1 in 20 in the UK.

If you worked 50-60hours weeks in a highly stressful high responsibility senior job on 6 digits package or more, then paid half of your income in taxes to fund people like this poster, I bet your views would be different
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@DdraigGoch , no, I agree that allowing foreigners to own London penthouse flats with riverside views and country mansions should be regulated more tightly and subject to much higher taxes. But they are bought to protect wealth from business or political rivals in jurisdictions with fairer laws.

My remark (pages back) is being interpreted rather differently to my original intention. It happens.

A system akin to the one in Guernsey would work

Only designated properties can be sold to non U.K. citizens
Home properties can never be sold to them

The non U.K. properties carry higher taxes.
The Govn could easily bump up the council tax, add a wealth tax, extra stamp you name it on just those properties plus remove PRR and so charge cgtax

I’m staying, don’t worry OP 😂

Im not a jealous person when it comes to money, cars, houses, holidays etc. Stuff doesn't interest me but I do get annoyed when people moan about struggling on 100k when I get a quarter of that and wouldn't say where struggling. We always have food, heating, clothes and even get to go on holiday every few years. It would be like going to a third world country and sitting there saying your starving because you missed lunch it just doesn't make sense. Also a lot of people who post these threads won't actually tell people where there money goes so there is absolutely no way to help.

And how's that working out for them? 🤔

oh look, another UK bashing thread. Fair play for coming up with an original topic though.

I would say that a wealth tax of a small percentage on assets (real estate and stockholdings) over (say) £20m would do some good and help to deflate the market a bit.

I’m against specifically targeting one section just on wealth ( we need to encourage wealth in the country, not lose it to others )

I do quite like the Guernsey housing model though
Plus extra Stamp etc on second properties
Increase in cgtax in line with income tax rates

No it’s not. The US population is only 5 times that of the UK. So there’s a substantial difference in the number of millionaires on a per capita basis.

Socialism seems to function effectively when the wealthy fund everything - First the UK is not a Socialist economy. Second, Socialism is not a synonym for "the wealthy" paying for everything. If you're going to opine on a subject, probably best to read up on the basics of that subject first, eh.

More than half my income goes on taxes - No, it doesn't. Why fib about something so clearly disproveable.

It's no surprise that some people aren't motivated to climb the social ladder..there's little incentive to strive for higher salaries when others are covering the costs.- Kudos to you for publicly demonstrating you have absolutely no understanding of the workings of the UK's economy and social class structure.

it’s disheartening that many of the people I help seem to resent me. Bless. Sorry you're upset that your staggering snobbishness and complete lack of insight into, or understanding of, 21st century Britain isn't greeted with awed reverence simply because you pay more tax than some other people.

Why on earth would posters who are not British be bitching about other British people's wealth

I don't care if people in my own country are wealthy, I certainly have no interest in the wealth of anyone in a different country.