To ask you to explain the logic - Gary Neville and flags

[BewaretheKraken]

The people putting up the flags are all about freedom of speech, apparently.

Gary Neville says he removed a flag that was being used negatively.

Now the people who love the flags are encouraging us to cancel Sky Sports to get him sacked - for expressing his opinion.

Almost like the whole “freedom of speech” schtick is a load of bollocks.

Don't know if I will get slated here but I agree with Neville. In my opinion these flags are being used not as a patriotic statement but as a threat and scaremongering tactic aimed at non-white people and legal immigrants. The flags seem to pop up overnight under cover of darkness and nobody seems to want to take resposibility for puting them up. Not just the flags though. There are red crosses being painted on public property - lamposts, roads, roundabouts, shops run by people of non-english heritage. It's just horrible racist intimidation.

Gary Neville is right.

I agree @buffyangel

It's very similar to the way the trans rights activists were complaining about the woman adult human female poster and getting that taken down everywhere.

I'm not sure that you can read people's motives perhaps as well as you think you can.

I think a lot of people absolutely sick to death of being told they can't wave their own flag but at the same time a Palestinian flag for example or a Pride flag is absolutely fine.

Why do we need to care what Gary Neville thinks.
He's just another person on this planet with an opinion. We all have an opinion on things.

I can't even bear to hear ex footballers talk about football let alone anything else.

I don't think that the reason for the flags is a freedom of speech protest.

Yes, exactly the point OP is making. He can have an opinion, no need for people who disagree to cancel their Sky over it 🤣

Remember the protest they had the other week .. all about protecting the right for Free Speech … turns out that was only when someone was agreeing with them.

Rylan spouts lies about Free iPads .. he’s a Free Speech hero
Neville talks about flags … needs to be sacked

Sad thing is, they can’t see the irony

He was from a working class family originally and played for a football team partly financed by the kind of men he is now hating on. I think they are annoyed and he could have made his point without targeting ‘angry white men’.

It’s pretty ironic that the flag wavers/protesters bang on about freedom of speech being lost etc. Yet as soon as someone doesn’t agree with their opinion, they lose their shit!

Flags on poles in gardens. Very common. Usually a certain demographic. Racist and not very bright.

Please don’t tar “the working class” with the same brush as these “angry white men” thank you very much.

As for his football team, they will survive with or without these supporters. We don’t want them in the game anyway.

Couldn't agree more with @buffyangel

Think its time a counter movement got started...instead of Raise the Colours, those of us who think British values are about justice, fairness and tolerance could have our own Unite the Colours movement - raise a flag to demonstrate togetherness rather than prejudice while being patriotic (could have Scottish and Welsh versions where those flags are front and centre).

Nothing upsets the gammon brigade more than someone who disagrees with them. And yet they all love freedom of speech? I guess only when the speech in question is in line with their beliefs. Thick as fuck the lot of them.

Part of the problem is that you think the Scottish, Welsh and EU flags are the politically correct flags.

Gary Neville is right. It appears to be the same people who were anti ulez in London (‘blade runners’ 🤦‍♀️ffs), fathers for justice and assorted other racists.
I’m sick of it - although only managing to get the flags half way up is a great metaphor 🤭

Some of those men helped to pay his wages. Again who cares what he thinks?

Gary Neville should keep his opinions to football. Got way too much to say from a political stance.

Lots of people care what he thinks that's the point!
Lot's of people are proud and encouraged by him speaking out and lots of people are pissed off. He has a platform and is using it.

Why?

He’s a citizen of the UK, and is entitled to hold and express an opinion in a free and democratic society.

Would you go up to a protestor and say you’ve got too many opinions, you should stick to commenting on your day job?

Politically correct? What do you mean?

What's wrong with including the flags of the other two nations that make up Great Britain and the flag that represents 27 of our nearest geographical neighbours 🤔

Rylan? Wth

Gary Neville has the right to an opinion. Other people have the right to disagree and to cancel their Sky Sports (and encourage others to) if they so wish.

Strongly suspect they won’t though when it comes down to it. 😂 They will find some way of justifying keeping it.

My dd has marched behind an England flag in one of the proudest and most exciting moments of her life. As a family we all struggle to see something that is connected to that time now basically a symbol of hatred. I suspect Gary Neville feels even more strongly as playing for England was such a huge part of his life.

Agree with him. They’re intimidation tactics by white angry men who are full of hate and intent on division. They don’t represent freedom of speech, you lose the right to the latter when you incite hate and violence towards Black, Asian and other ethnicities.