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Neighbour has put up huge Unite the Kingdom flag

924 replies

UrticaDioca · 05/10/2025 15:05

I am gutted. I haven't seen a single flag in my town, and suddenly this union jack goes up two doors over with the words 'Unite the Kingdom' printed on it in capital letters. The flag is huge and flying from a pole on top of their shed, but it's in their own garden so nothing can be done.

I am the daughter of an immigrant mother and therefore mixed race. Now I have to see this fucking flag waving at me every time I look out of my kitchen or living room windows.

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saveforthat · 05/10/2025 17:06

nosleepforme · 05/10/2025 17:05

You can get arrested for owning or displaying a British flag?! What have we come to???

1984

JHound · 05/10/2025 17:07

Nothing you can do about it I’m afraid. Just give that neighbour a very wide berth.

Centuriesahead · 05/10/2025 17:08

Ddakji · 05/10/2025 16:38

You missed the bit where she said much like her own DP. Pure oversight on your part, I’m sure.

Why does fact the Op thinks her husband is a “standard white bloke” make the descriptor…. Less Odd

Grammarnut · 05/10/2025 17:08

lovernotafighterr · 05/10/2025 16:39

A house I pass on my way to work fly a pirate flag.

Sadly, pirates are not nice people - though the eighteenth century ones were models of democratic rule in their ships: to be captain you had to obtain the popular vote, and loot was shared equally.

TooBigForMyBoots · 05/10/2025 17:08

YANBU @UrticaDioca.😧

Even if you decided to move, racist flags lower house prices.😕

GabrielsOboe · 05/10/2025 17:09

AnnaFrith · 05/10/2025 17:04

Maybe talk to your neighbour and find out why he's flying the flag and what it means to him. You'd probably find out he's concerned about the historically never before seen levels of immigration, both legal and illegal, we've had over the last five years. It's not racist to be concerned about the impact of this, particularly when you place large groups of young men, from societies with very different attitudes to women, into small communities.

The OP is clearly not going to do that.

As others have asserted - the neighbour is clearly a racist and must be shunned…

TheCaribbeanIsCallingMe · 05/10/2025 17:10

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 05/10/2025 16:56

I’m afraid although you are right there are Labour middle class on here who haven’t a clue as they live in leafy safe suburbs.They don’t have to fear any of this, any mention of fear of these things they have to scream “racist, xenophobic” etc etc etc as if their life depended on it.

Oh absolutely! I would wager that if the house next door became an HMO, housing 10 foreign men, that the horse blinkers might start to slip.

Grammarnut · 05/10/2025 17:11

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 05/10/2025 15:18

It's just you.

Most people know that "unite the kingdom" reflects support for a racist campaign led by Tommy Robinson and his cronies.

No, they don't. Many immigrants went on the Unite the Kingdom march (and my own step-grandson who is no racist). Many want to stop illegal immigration and to have rules enforced about legal immigration. It's not racist to think that immigration should be controlled and to the use of the host country.

Sausage1986 · 05/10/2025 17:11

For those who think it’s ’just A flag’ must be living under a rock as it’s become the face of fascism at this point in time. You can disagree and be objective

Absentosaur · 05/10/2025 17:12

It’s only a Union Jack flag. The flag of the country people live in. It’s not personal. Loads of people in other countries fly flags.

I can see why people have issues with flags. But to other the Union Jack is to give the people who use it nefariously, ownership of the countries’ flag. That’s wrong. They don’t own our flag or our country. We’re all better than them. If people use it as normal - then it becomes just a flag. Like all the other flags.

GabrielsOboe · 05/10/2025 17:12

Lambington · 05/10/2025 17:01

Report to police. The neighbour could be found guilty of intent to cause distress under the malicious communications act.
They've been arresting people for carrying cardboard signs supporting Gaza so this would certainly be comparable.

Erm, no, and no.

The neighbour is clearly not guilty of an offence under the act, and those arrested were supporting a proscribed terrorist organisation.

Really….

KrystalStubbs · 05/10/2025 17:12

EchoedSilence · 05/10/2025 15:39

I doubt my neighbours are racist considering both sides are muslim.I live in one of those very diverse areas that some MNers think are no go areas.

Muslims can be racist too you know

HPFA · 05/10/2025 17:13

MidnightPatrol · 05/10/2025 15:13

What’s the offence with ‘unite the kingdom’ written on a Union Jack?

It's clearly showing support for racist thug Tommy Robinson.

Grammarnut · 05/10/2025 17:13

34ransum · 05/10/2025 16:54

Immigrant here.

There are hundreds of flags on my high street and commute.

It makes me feel incredibly sad, angry, frustrated, unwelcome, othered...

I also feel sad for my children, neither of whom are white, both who were born here and have only English passports

I think you will find that your DC (like my DC who are mixed race) have British passports.

RafaistheKingofClay · 05/10/2025 17:16

GabrielsOboe · 05/10/2025 16:52

Where does your definition of racism begin and end?

How would you define the 100-150k who attended the recent march/demo?

Gullible?

Anyway I thought it was 3million. Tommy’s still insisting it was last time I checked and he wouldn’t lie, I’m sure.

Kelticgold · 05/10/2025 17:17

I am sure the “Unite the Kindom” slogan is aimed at Sinn Fein, SNP, Plaid Cymru or Meybon Kernow voters, rather than immigrants. It literally means that we don’t want to Balkanise the country, we don’t support separatists here.

Cardiaga · 05/10/2025 17:18

Grammarnut · 05/10/2025 17:00

And possibly wrong. You'll remember judge not that you be not judged? It means do not jump to conclusions without evidence.

The evidence is the flag. If you display a symbol that makes others feel unsafe, and regard your right to do so as more important than their right to feel safe, that makes you selfish but not a racist. If the group of people who are made to feel unsafe by this symbol can be differentiated by race, then you are selfish AND a racist.

GabrielsOboe · 05/10/2025 17:18

RafaistheKingofClay · 05/10/2025 17:16

Gullible?

Anyway I thought it was 3million. Tommy’s still insisting it was last time I checked and he wouldn’t lie, I’m sure.

Waiting for @CurlewKate

Thanks though.

JHound · 05/10/2025 17:18

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 05/10/2025 16:56

I’m afraid although you are right there are Labour middle class on here who haven’t a clue as they live in leafy safe suburbs.They don’t have to fear any of this, any mention of fear of these things they have to scream “racist, xenophobic” etc etc etc as if their life depended on it.

Lol!!

It never ceases to amaze me that the flag wavers, who hate being labelled, love lazy generalisations of their own!

What about those of us who would feel as uncomfortable as OP, yet don’t vote labour and live in inner city areas with huge immigrant / immigrant descended populations and have done for most of our lives. Where do we fit in your lazy labelling?

Grammarnut · 05/10/2025 17:18

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 05/10/2025 15:31

I bet you believe the Palestine flags and marches don’t frighten Jewish people who live here too.

Someone has a Palestinian flag in their window near me. It says 'free Palestine' on it. No-one, afaik, has protested. I am not overjoyed to see it, but we apparently have free speech and I don't know the people. I think much the same will go for a Union flag or an Israeli one - not tested, however.

TheCaribbeanIsCallingMe · 05/10/2025 17:19

MiniPantherOwner · 05/10/2025 17:04

Yes, I've found that it's also handy for labelling racist businesses. There's a cattery near me that I tried to book my cats into before, but it was full. They sounded so nice on the phone that I thought I'd try again next time I'm going away. Then right after the Tommy Robinson march they've put up a massive flagpole with an England flag, no way was that timing a coincidence. My cats will not be going to a racist cattery, so it's back to the further away one.

I presume that business owners assume that as a white woman I won't be bothered, but as someone whose Polish grandparents were both in the Polish army in WW2, I will not give my money to anyone who wants to give their support to the far right.

OH THE IRONY!

Poland has the toughest laws on immigration and does not have the problem that the UK has, because they eject anyone who tries to enter illegally. Poland is about as "far right" as you can get. How ironic.

PS. A cattery that's almost always full won't give two figs that you use another cattery. They won't even know. 🙄

Grammarnut · 05/10/2025 17:19

OwlBeThere · 05/10/2025 15:34

Why would you do that? Unite the kingdom is what Tommy Robinson and co call their nasty little campaign.

Why is it nasty to want to unite the UK (the united kingdom, after all)?

UtterlyOtterly · 05/10/2025 17:19

I am so sorry you have to deal with that OP, whatever anyone says, this sudden bout of flag flying is not innocent patriotism. A brown skinned friend of mine says she finds the flags in our town intimidating. They are thinking of moving back to their home country, taking her DHs considerable specialist surgical skills with them. A loss to the NHS but here we are.

We have some neighbours who are not flying a flag but have outed themselves as very racist in comments about immigrants and also other neighbours who are not white British. I am keeping my contact with them to the barest minimum.

HeadDeskHeadDesk · 05/10/2025 17:20

GabrielsOboe · 05/10/2025 16:52

Where does your definition of racism begin and end?

How would you define the 100-150k who attended the recent march/demo?

The problem with this blanket definition of 'far right' and 'racist' for everyone who thinks very differently to you on politics and how the future of this country should look, and the state of it today and the causes of it, and how to put it right, is that very very soon you will be living in a country run by far right racists, with massive electoral majority support from millions and millions of far right racists. I mean look at it logically. If everyone who voted for Brexit was far right and racist, (as is often posited) and there were 17.3 million of them and Labour won the last GE with a 'landslide' of only 9.7 million, then given the way the polls are looking at the moment for Reform at the next GE, that's an awful lot of nasty far right racists living amongst us.

And they will be your neighbours. Your relatives. Your mum and dad. Your child minder, half of your netball team, that nice lady that serves you in the newsagents, your postman. Your husband's oldest school friend. Your boss and your mum's cancer nurse. They'll be absolutely everywhere. Racists and fascists everywhere, masquerading as regular, nice people. It's the 'surrounded by idiots' phenomenon. Where you are so convinced of your own righteousness that you'd happily believe every single person in the organisation is a total idiot who is too stupid to know what they are doing, than countenance for a second that the problem might just be you and your way of doing things.

GabrielsOboe · 05/10/2025 17:21

TheCaribbeanIsCallingMe · 05/10/2025 17:19

OH THE IRONY!

Poland has the toughest laws on immigration and does not have the problem that the UK has, because they eject anyone who tries to enter illegally. Poland is about as "far right" as you can get. How ironic.

PS. A cattery that's almost always full won't give two figs that you use another cattery. They won't even know. 🙄

Ah, I believe this poster has posted before - along the same lines about her cattery (six months ago).

As you say - the cattery WONT GIVE A SHIT.