Neighbours - what the hell?

[Allisnotlost1]

Posting here for traffic, previous thread here for context.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5353167-difficult-neighbours

TLDR: nice but filthy neighbours, at least four adults and two kids in the house, multiple animals, what can I do?

I managed to get help from Environmental health who issued a clearance notice for the rubbish at the front of the house. I’ve since found out that one of the older boys has a girlfriend who is now pregnant. The plan is for them to live between her mum’s house and where he is now.

There are now nine dogs living there and one is expecting puppies soon.

Ive also been told that the father previously went to prison for domestic violence against the wife and youngest child. I’m quite confused that he’s living there if that’s true but I guess if he’s off probation and no order in place then what can anyone do, I’ve never heard violence but a fair amount of arguing and some pretty awful things said by him to her, but mainly I’m concerned given that it must be incredibly stressful to be so overcrowded.

Is there anything I could or should do given the imminent arrival of a baby into this situation? (YANBU) Or should I shut the fuck up and move? (YABU).

made me think maybe I should be more proactive

head. Wall. Bang

Did you miss the word ‘history’ next to it? There is no abuse going on, to my knowledge.

What is it that you think I have a duty to do, given the facts (not the past)?

Are the dogs being trained care of properly.

This is the only thing that would bother me.

report to RSPCA if necessary.

Sounds shit for everyone
I couldn’t live like this op
and you’ve been posting about it for months
must be very depressing plus dealing with it mainly alone - awful

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Likewise.

For the last time, if you have advice, please share it.

Nothing op
absolutely nothing
“being more proactive” . Your words
but I think if I was living surrounded by this day on and day out, largely all alone, not sure I’d have the energy to be “more proactive” either

But you did say there was current abuse.
‘I’ve never heard violence but a fair amount of arguing and some pretty awful things said by him to her’.

No advice
your living situation sounds very depressing
I couldn’t live like this
no wonder being more proactive doesn’t translate to anything in reality
just do whatever you need to do to get through the days op

‘Too Long Didn’t Read’ - a short summary for people who don’t want to read the whole thread (or article or whatever).

You are either concerned for their welfare or don’t like their lifestyle.
If it’s the first report to someone who can help, if it is the second move house as it’s your problem not their’s

The summary is

an op who has a very depressing home environment due to her neighbours, and is mainly at home alone and this has been going on for some time with no end in sight.

lol, thanks for your input 😘

You're being pretty rude and yet, still not offering the OP any advice or ideas. So, tell us all, what would you do, in your shining armour, to save all the dogs and children and unborn babies?

So sorry OP sounds awful. Unfortunately other than reporting to EH about pests and rubbish piling up there seems to not be much to do. Even social services won't be too interested in baby's living conditions, unless it's filthy inside and the dogs are dangerous breeds..and even then I'm doubtful!

And I'm not sure how you can sell!

I guess if they are otherwise nice and amicable to you I would try and suck it up. Hopefully the gf and older son will try and claim a council property for overcrowding? The added noise of a newborn may be the tipping point for some of the others to try and move out.

Invest in loop earplugs and turn your tele up louder! Their elec and water bill must be nuts especially with reptiles 😵‍💫

Your and their other neighbours must find it awful too.

I missed @Curledup14 ’s deleted reply. Maybe that was the one with the wisdom?

Thanks @Keroppi, I have come to a similar conclusion. Dogs are not banned breeds and I heard the parents arguing about how there was no space with them all so maybe things are reaching a tipping point and they’ll take some action. Hopefully the son will have enough and/or the girlfriend will stay at home with her family. In any case I’ve decided to sell, and hope that the issues don’t overshadow that.

It was so odd that was deleted! Literally all I was saying was how utterly depressing your life sounded - your home life so unpleasant and mainly dealing with it all alone. I was sympathetic! 😵‍💫

Yes I’d have thought that quite a few homes were impacted by this

So what are you doing to do?

move or… be more proactive?

No doubt neither and just start yet another mumsnet thread about it.

This time they’ll be 17 dogs and 8 children.

I'm an Environmental Health Officer and yes, you should report the dogs. They sound like unlicensed breeders, and people DO hoard animals. I'm not an animal Health Officer but I work closely with them and this is the type of problem they want reported. Also we do have powers over owner/occupied properties if they are 'filthy or verminous' .

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this!

Nothing to add except empathy. My brother was in this situation. He owned and houses either side were rented out. One side had the backyard breeder and the other had the feral family. Like you he didn’t fall out with them and they were vaguely friendly.
They made him so miserable. Constant screaming, breaking his fence, dogs and a disabled child coming into his garden and wrecking things. Once had to call the police as the disabled child came into his house and he couldn’t get the family to fetch him.
He looked into everything short of making a formal complaint in case he had to sell. (RSPCA, social services). In the end he did sell but there were two buyers who came at the wrong time and witnessed the neighbours and pulled out.
He sold for a reduced price in the end to a landlord.
Im sorry for anyone who has neighbours like this.

Did he go to SS?