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‘Coming out’ as non binary

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Neverbeentothegym · 02/10/2025 08:00

Just reading about another celebrity ‘coming out’ as non binary, saying ‘there’s days when I feel more masculine, and days when I feel more feminine’. I’m putting money on the fact that they are never in a position where the world treats them absolutely as one of those genders, and all the shit that comes with it.
I am a woman who has always felt masculine.

But even if I feel this way, as a single parent, school will always call me. School will always expect me to deliver clean, tidy, organised children on time. The council/ social services/ society expected me to pick up the pieces when their dad left. No one from their side has offered me respite/ support or even acknowledgement. In the same way, their dad has never been punished or held accountable to do anything or help at all. The NHS expected me to prioritise the health and well-being of the foetus I was carrying and did nothing to check or impose the same restrictions on the father of the child. No employers will underpay or make judgements about a man’s ability to not get pregnant at an inconvenient time or take too much time off for caring responsibilities.
So it all means jack shit. I could come out as non binary tomorrow and not one of the above named societal expectations would change.

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Horsehow · 02/10/2025 20:14

Shelaydownunderthetable · 02/10/2025 19:26

How does this person identifying as non binary harm you? You seem to have taken it quite personally somehow… It sounds like you equate womanhood to struggle and that non binary people who haven’t faced the same realities are responsible for perpetuating them. Some of what you have experienced as a single parent sounds really hard. But I’m not less of a woman because I’ve not experienced the same.

It’s the way Gender Identity reduces us all to a list of cliched stereotypes that’s so fucking offensive! Woman is so much more than a dress and a wig!

Neverbeentothegym · 02/10/2025 21:09

@Shelaydownunderthetablethat’s not what I’m saying at all. I’m saying that the majority of my struggles have been precisely because I’m a woman, rather than my struggles making me somehow more of a woman, whatever that means. We are all women, as you stated.
There’s only so many friends you can watch suffer, see so much wasted potential and listen to heartbreaking story after heartbreaking story. Women, on the whole, are far more likely to abused, lose power, lose careers, become silenced, become vilified or mocked, or just ignored once they pass 40.
Is that something which being non binary prevents? Is being non binary a rebellious act which sticks two fingers up at the patriarchy? Not really. It would be better if all women had a better deal rather than pretending that pronouns and androgyny make any fucking difference to a woman in a domestic abuse shelter who’s lost everything, job, house, kids, so that she can survive past her 32nd birthday. That’s a real life story, by the way.

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