some Michelle Mone-style labour crony will make billions from the digital ID

[DervlaGlass]

Which will make all our lives worse and won't reduce immigration crime in the slightest. The main reason for immigration crime ongoing is police and Border Force refusal to take action about known criminals.

Nothing will stop guys sharing an ID as they do in other countries.

It will create extra incentive to steal identities from ordinary people (perhaps with violence/kidnap).

Meanwhile this is billions the NHS and schools won't see.

Labour won't see election again in my lifetime.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/730194

No, it's the insistence that "some crony" will make money from it.

That's not happened, why get angry about a hypothetical?

Why don’t you give your reasons for how you think it’s a good idea and why? Instead of belittling people’s concerns.

For your information I am concerned about this, but hardly angry or stressed.

Same applies to @randomchap, see my last post.

Tony Blair’s son…..

The difference between a conspiracy and reality, is usually about 6-12 months, so only time will tell.

If digital ID becomes mandatory then (by extension) owning a smartphone will become mandatory.
What they I do about people who don't want to have a smartphone?

Of course they will. Why else is it being pushed it’s not for my good or the U.K.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c87rgj4e0rzo

@WandChoosesTheWitch

sorry I know it’s the mail. But I like to use a variety of sources.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15140649/tech-giant-Blair-257m-ID-card-contract.html

I think that until they can fix the dvla driving test booking system they shouldn’t start on any new crazy big projects. So many existing systems in government aren’t working properly. I don’t understand why we need id cards.

@WandChoosesTheWitch

www.ft.com/content/d94c5f67-ccd1-4231-9235-bf30fc8ac958

“In fact, then-Shadow Home Secretary David Davis, who is still the MP for Goole & Pocklington, said the obsession by Sir Tony would "actually weaken our security and cost at least £20billion".

@Pinkfluffypencilcase thanks very much, I will take a look. No worries about the DM article, I too like to watch/listen to/read a variety of sources. 😊

Probably why Kier wants it - seems more EU Reset than anti-illegal immigration.

It wouldn't be worth doing otherwise.

I mean the DVLA are probably 95% of the way there. They have pretty much the processes, and their infrastructure is dealing with about 42 million records, so a bump of maybe 50% isn't too onerous.

However why spend a few tens of millions when - as we know from Universal Credit - you can spunk (literally) untold sums of money into a black hole and have nobody notice ?

You'd be mad not too.

I want one. I can't get a passport or driving license currently. ID should be assigned to everyone automatically, not a privilige. Unfortunately I live in Scotland and our government is opposing it, probably due to popular opposition on social media

I agree OP and I couldn’t loathe Starmer more. I fervently hope that the UK track record on government IT means that this won’t be in place by the time of the next general election, and that Labour gets comprehensively trounced.

Very true.

Also remember how well the Covid pass worked? Oh gosh, it didn't, but how much did it cost?

The UK track record on any large project means this will cost 10x whatever is predicted and take 3x as long.

Hows that HS2 working out for you ?

And have they actually signed off Universal Credit yet ? (Hint: No).

I'm guessing we'll be talking about £5 billion for this plan. And paying about £20 billion It's supposed to go live 2029 ???? So will probably come on stream about 2035.

Experts in large UK government projects are free to contradict with their examples of projects that did come in on or under budget and by or before the target date.

(The project managers mantra: "Works, On time. On budget. Choose any two")

It's called experience, @randomchap ... if you can point me to any recent government initiative which has come in on time, on budget, without obvious cronies involved and which works properly I'd be interested to hear it

What they I do about people who don't want to have a smartphone?

And what do they do about those disabled who may be unable to use one, @MO0N?
I know they're usually ignored - or in the words of an MP of my aquaintance "not enough vote for government to care" - but I'm sick to death of every blasted thing being made reliant on IT which can be thoroughly exclusionary

Also remember how well the Covid pass worked? Oh gosh, it didn't, but how much did it cost?

If it didn't work, then it clearly didn't cost enough.

Surely it would be easier and cheaper for the government to make passports compulsory and reduce the cost of them

I don't think you've quite grasped the point of this.

Maybe not. Was just a suggestion

I fervently hope that the UK track record on government IT means that this won’t be in place by the time of the next general election

I strongly expect you'll get your wish, @Carpaltoenail, especially if it's correct that the real purpose here is to out-Farage Nigel with a few tasty headlines

The rest can probably be left to byzantine committee structures, general incompetence and the involvement of those whose only real interest is to make a quick buck with no expectation at all of accountability