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Tried to help out a friend

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Upontherooooof · 27/09/2025 13:46

Hi all, I'm looking for some advice please. I have a feeling things are about to go wrong. I let a friend move into my spare room three and a half weeks ago. They were living in a damp, run down apartment and couldn't afford anything more than what they were paying in rent.

About 2 months ago, they asked if I would consider renting them my spare room. I'm a single female, early 30s and must admit cost of living has begun to pinch me. I've know this person for around five years and after a discussion and some thought, agreed to this temporary situation, until something more affordable came along and to help me over winter with bills etc.

The agreement was she'd pay me weekly, we'd both do our bit in regards to cooking etc and agreed it would also be company for us both. I do get a bit bored of an evening and we both have similar interests, so thought this would be a nice idea, taking the edge off and helping each other in return. We agreed a schedule for cleaning also.

Initially, she paid me up front and helped a little around the house. We both have our own lives and so passed pleasantries as and when we were home together. Her mother has recently downsized her property and had some items of furniture to give away, I arrived home one day to some of these items in my home. She said her mum was going to skip them and so she thought I might like them. They aren't my taste but I just said thank you and thought I'd get rid once she leaves.

We are now three and a half weeks in, I have accumulated more things from her mother's house. She has not done any washing since she's been here, so much so there's an odour starting to come from her room. She has cooked twice since she's been here, but has eaten meals I've made for myself, when made extra for work. She hasn't paid me on time, if at all since. She sits in her room when she is here with tv on and heating all day or is out until all hours.

I don't really care what she does outside of here but it isn't nice being woken up at 2/3 in the morning, maybe 3 times a week, especially when I have work the next morning or am tired from working nearly 50 hours a week. There suddenly seems to be no friendship and I feel a little awkward in my own home, being avoided almost it feels. I'm not an overly loud or in your face person and have done my best to be welcoming, but I really am starting to feel uncomfortable. I can be home for 6 hours and she will literally walk past the room I'm in and not acknowledge me.

Would I be unreasonable to readdress some house rules and if unreceptive, give her until November to move? I'm really feeling a bit hurt and like a stranger in my own home.

OP posts:
CharlieKirkRIP · 27/09/2025 15:13

Get her out asap.

I don’t need to tell you how foolish you’ve been and let her take advantage of your kind but gullible nature.

These arrangements rarely work out well even with people that have known each other forty years!

You dine out the the nature of a person when you travel/holiday or live with them.

Stop being nice and get her out. Being will only see her causing you more problems. You need to take a very hard line with her.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 27/09/2025 15:16

She's a lodger, so you do not have to give her lots of notice, you could tell her to be out by next weekend, and there's nothing she could do about it. They say it goes on the frequency of payment, which in your case is supposed to be weekly. So a week's notice is more than enough. However, she's not even paying you, so you could even chuck her out the same day. The police can assist with her removal, should it be required.

She has no rights. I personally, would want her out by next weekend. Where she goes is not your problem.

"This is not working for me, I let you into my home and you've abused my kindness. You've not paid for your room, and you're not contributing to the cleanliness and cooking agreements. Therefore, I want you to find elsewhere and be out by noon next Saturday."

Dartmoorcheffy · 27/09/2025 15:23

I would invent an emergency long distance relative coming to stay and room needs vacating by a certain date. Tell her mid October. She's taking the piss.

LunchtimeNaps · 27/09/2025 15:23

If you are still thinking you will give it another month I'd definitely ask her for the money but maybe a rota listing what needs to be done daily and by whom.

Followthesunshine · 27/09/2025 15:34

1 week notice and out - when people show you who they are believe them

Shr3dding · 27/09/2025 16:21

Dartmoorcheffy · 27/09/2025 15:23

I would invent an emergency long distance relative coming to stay and room needs vacating by a certain date. Tell her mid October. She's taking the piss.

Why? There's no need to make up strange lies, that would be a bit odd wouldn't it not to mention making you obviously a liar when she finds out it's not true

BMW6 · 27/09/2025 16:33

Just tell her to get her stinky freeloading ass out of your home in 24 hours. She can collect the crappy mum furniture later.

StewkeyBlue · 27/09/2025 16:33

Tell her that now she has been there a month it would be useful to review how things are going.

Ask her how it is working for her.

Tell her that tbh you are experiencing some teething issues think it would be useful to go over them now.

Work out which things are priorities for you. And be clear, without being distracted or diverted that these are important to you.

For me it would be paying on time (ask her to set up a standing order), not eating food that you have cooked for yourself and only eating meals you have cooked if she reciprocates, not having the heating on all day unless she is prepared to pay the extra bills, and not waking you when she comes in at night.

Tell her you want it to work, always tricky getting used to living with a new person, hope she is ok with sticking to these points and review again in another month.

And if she doesn’t shape up, kick her out.

NewDayNewColour · 27/09/2025 16:34

Upontherooooof · 27/09/2025 13:54

@Hurumphh hello, thank you for your response. The agreement was until the winter was over, as her flat as in really poor condition. It was also to give her time to save for a more habitable property.

She opened the door to her room the other day and the smell is awful. I have asked her if she has any washing, trying to prompt her along but she just grunted 'no thanks' and shut the door. I come home and there's cups, plates, food wrappers out. Never taken rubbish to the bin. I wasn't expecting this from a fully grown adult.

She could be there till April if you're waiting for winter to finish

DelphiniumBlue · 27/09/2025 16:34

I'd ask her to transfer the money owed plus rent for the next 2 weeks today. If she doesn't, then you know for sure that she is not a person of integrity and you need have no qualms about telling her to leave.
Even if she does pay, you can still tell her it's not working for you and you need her out in two weeks.
The alternative is you spell out to her what the issues are and what you want her to do - keep the room clean and tidy, no crockery to be left in her room, cook dinner for you both three times a week, pay the rent on time without being asked. That gives her the chance to put it right if for some reason she doesn't realise it's a problem. Then if any of those things don't happen, again you tell her to leave without feeling that you've been unfair.

AOIFEmissingUalways · 28/09/2025 10:59

I feel terrible for you; no good deed and all that...

Honestly, end of Oct is too long. Give her two weeks max.

Friendlygingercat · 28/09/2025 16:06

To the poster who said do you approach friendship via contracts - once money and other material favours enter the association then it is no longer just a friendship. It is a business arrangement. Getting things down in black and white befits both parties because duties and responsibilities are made clear. Its surprising how people can back away quickly once a contract is mentioned. Like the cheeky neighbour who wanted to use my drive for her extra vehicle but backed off smartly as soon as a contract and payment were mentioned.

Upontherooooof · 28/09/2025 18:40

Just catching up on the final comments here. All I can say is, I'm glad I don't have friends like a lot of you in my life. I will always operate with kindness, until someone gives me a reason not to. Once they give me that reason, I will respectfully remove them from my life. This doesn't make me at all gullible or whatever names you feel the need to throw at people.

If there was a little more kindness in the world, it would be in a better state of repair. I have classed this person as a long term friend. I am not responsible for others behaviour, only for the way I conduct myself towards others. I will continue to be kind first. I certainly won't be lying awake at night worrying about how much of a gullible person that makes me.

That's the thing about MN, isn't it, full of angry people. Very glad that overall, the people in my circle lean on each other as and when is needed in life. What a lonely, miserable, angry life some of you must lead. That is very evident in some of the absolutely pathetic responses on here. Absolutely lower than low. I bet you're the type of people that make others cringe, when out in public. Worrying about how you're going to treat and speak to others. Vile.

Once again, thank you to the lovely, warm and supportive responses I have received. It is reassuring to see that not everyone in the world is a gobshite who enjoys speaking down to people. Sending thanks and gratitude to you.

OP posts:
Pollqueen · 28/09/2025 18:48

I think you've had some very sensible responses, but also some batshit ones but thats the nature of the Internet

You came on asking for advice and you got it, some very sensible and some not so but in a nutshell, you extended the hand of friendship and are being used and walked all over. That's not what friends do, whatever you think

Caroparo52 · 28/09/2025 18:50

It's got to end and asap. Your nice home will become a place you don't feel comfortable living in. So put your big girl pants on snd say...
Sorry this isn't working out for me.
You eat my food.
There's a smell coming from your room.
I feel my nice house isn't being loved and cared for by you.
You are late with the rent.
I don't have the buddy I was envisaging.
I feel uncomfortable in my own space.
Your mother's furniture is not to my taste.
Please take the furniture with you when you leave in 4 week's time.
Be prepared to not have a friendship left with this person.
Lesson learnt.

Glasgowgal200 · 28/09/2025 18:56

Think you need to have a honest conversation with her and lay out any rules etc that she needs to abide by if not she needs to go, give her a few weeks notice.

Glasgowgal200 · 28/09/2025 18:57

Also get everything in writing

tommyhoundmum · 28/09/2025 19:10

Broccolitime · 27/09/2025 13:59

So no written tenancy between the two of you?
A verbal agreements? Goodness, I can’t believe that the friendship has deteriorated SO quickly!
and has a standing order for weekly rent?

Edited

There seems to be some point scoring going on here.

outerspacepotato · 28/09/2025 19:16

She didn't pay, she's not keeping up with cleaning her room so much that it smells, and she's eating your food. She's also stuffing your place with her mom's discards, WTF.

You let a freeloader with a sob story move in, time to tell her to leave. Don't be a chump.

outerspacepotato · 28/09/2025 19:21

Upontherooooof · 28/09/2025 18:40

Just catching up on the final comments here. All I can say is, I'm glad I don't have friends like a lot of you in my life. I will always operate with kindness, until someone gives me a reason not to. Once they give me that reason, I will respectfully remove them from my life. This doesn't make me at all gullible or whatever names you feel the need to throw at people.

If there was a little more kindness in the world, it would be in a better state of repair. I have classed this person as a long term friend. I am not responsible for others behaviour, only for the way I conduct myself towards others. I will continue to be kind first. I certainly won't be lying awake at night worrying about how much of a gullible person that makes me.

That's the thing about MN, isn't it, full of angry people. Very glad that overall, the people in my circle lean on each other as and when is needed in life. What a lonely, miserable, angry life some of you must lead. That is very evident in some of the absolutely pathetic responses on here. Absolutely lower than low. I bet you're the type of people that make others cringe, when out in public. Worrying about how you're going to treat and speak to others. Vile.

Once again, thank you to the lovely, warm and supportive responses I have received. It is reassuring to see that not everyone in the world is a gobshite who enjoys speaking down to people. Sending thanks and gratitude to you.

You're the one whose getting their food eaten and their apartment stinks and someone's dumpster picking stuff in your space with no rent in your bank account.

Sanctimony doesn't pay the rent or the cleanup. Yeesh.

tuvamoodyson · 28/09/2025 19:26

Upontherooooof · 28/09/2025 18:40

Just catching up on the final comments here. All I can say is, I'm glad I don't have friends like a lot of you in my life. I will always operate with kindness, until someone gives me a reason not to. Once they give me that reason, I will respectfully remove them from my life. This doesn't make me at all gullible or whatever names you feel the need to throw at people.

If there was a little more kindness in the world, it would be in a better state of repair. I have classed this person as a long term friend. I am not responsible for others behaviour, only for the way I conduct myself towards others. I will continue to be kind first. I certainly won't be lying awake at night worrying about how much of a gullible person that makes me.

That's the thing about MN, isn't it, full of angry people. Very glad that overall, the people in my circle lean on each other as and when is needed in life. What a lonely, miserable, angry life some of you must lead. That is very evident in some of the absolutely pathetic responses on here. Absolutely lower than low. I bet you're the type of people that make others cringe, when out in public. Worrying about how you're going to treat and speak to others. Vile.

Once again, thank you to the lovely, warm and supportive responses I have received. It is reassuring to see that not everyone in the world is a gobshite who enjoys speaking down to people. Sending thanks and gratitude to you.

So how is that working out for you?

Silverbirchleaf · 28/09/2025 19:36

I knew as I read your title that whatever help you were giving had turned sour.

You offered your room out of the kindness of your heart, and she has abused that trust. Definitely read her the riot act, with an uktimatum that if things don’t improve, she’s out.

shhblackbag · 28/09/2025 19:41

tuvamoodyson · 28/09/2025 19:26

So how is that working out for you?

Quite. You can stay on your high horse, but you fell for a sob story, and now she's stinking up your house and costing you money. This 'friend' saw you coming.

HedwigEliza · 28/09/2025 19:46

Upontherooooof · 27/09/2025 14:03

@Broccolitime is that how you approach your friendships in life? Contracts and bank arrangements? Sounds sad to me. Quite happy giving people the benefit of the doubt until they give me a reason not to. I definitely would never ask a friend to sign an agreement if they came to me asking for help. Ever. Nor would I do so in the future.

Well don’t be surprised when you end up in a pickle as you have done now then.

All very well taking the high moral tone when you’re the one stuck with an unwelcome guest you’re going to find it hard to shift.

Hoppinggreen · 28/09/2025 19:48

Upontherooooof · 27/09/2025 14:03

@Broccolitime is that how you approach your friendships in life? Contracts and bank arrangements? Sounds sad to me. Quite happy giving people the benefit of the doubt until they give me a reason not to. I definitely would never ask a friend to sign an agreement if they came to me asking for help. Ever. Nor would I do so in the future.

Carry on like this, it seems to be working out so well for you

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