Reports that NATO are now in Ukraine

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I am seeing reports from Asian media in last 24 hours or so that NATO is in Ukraine, in Odessa. Is this right, or are they on the border?

This is apparently to do with important elections in Moldova on Sunday which are linked to whether Moldova has its future in the EU or with closer ties to Russia. The president of Moldova is keen on the EU; there have been protests which indicate that there is support in the electorate for closer ties with Russia and some reports are saying it is a close race; there have apparently been nearly 300 arrests of people who are suspected to be organising protests who are pro Russian; the EU is saying "we mustn't let Moldova be lost". In some respects it is looking a bit like the Maiden Revolution in 2014 in Ukraine following which there was a change of government to one which was pro-EU and a trade agreement signed between Ukraine and the EU.

Why is NATO there, in what is essentially a war zone, after we had been told that it wouldn't be? Or is NATO on the border and not in Ukraine?

In relation to Moldova it is currently neutral, not a part of NATO (according to google), no other country is threatening them (afaik), they are not currently a part of the EU, so are the reports that NATO are there false?

Or is NATO there but temporarily and just as some sort of gesture?

Will NATO being in the area significantly increase the risk of direct clashes with Russia? What is the situation vis a vis Transnistria?

The trade agreement signed between Ukraine and the EU in 2014 had been being negotiated since around 2008, there had been a lot of funding given to Ukraine by the EU and the US in the intervening period - is it the same situation with Moldova? Ie has a draft agreement been negotiated?

You joined a parenting forum to post this?

Russia is claiming this, NATO is denying it.

It’s to do with the upcoming elections in Moldova. In recent years, support for Moldovan integration into Europe has grown, and the government has been moving in that direction. Russia wants to stop this, and has been and is trying to sway Moldova towards voting for the pro-Russian candidate. They want to create anti-EU/anti-NATO sentiment.

The situation with Transnistria it’s a breakaway republic of pro-Russian separatists. It is a major problem for Moldova when it comes to their NATO and EU ambitions. Transnistria remaining a separatist Republic prevents Moldova from achieve pro-European (and pro-NATO) goals, hence why Russia is creating unrest and sabotaging Moldova’s attempts at integration.

Do you have a link op? Would like to read about this.

Yep.

And Russia has been claiming NATO is in Ukraine since the start of the war.

It's three years ago that Zelensky told this joke about it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/zl50y4/zelenskyy_tells_david_letterman_a_joke_about/

Do you think when women become mothers they suddenly stop reading, having opinions and thinking for themselves?

Russia has been saying that they are fighting a proxy war in Ukraine against the NATO - this is a slightly different point. NATO has not officially said they are sending soldiers there and that any western soldiers there are acting as volunteers. They are training, sending aid, weapons, support, they say. So this is a completely different point.

What is being reported here is that NATO are there now, that is related to Moldova and NATO are not denying this. Unless they are denying it, in which case could you link?

If you google about the Moldovan elections, a lot will come up. The asian media I referred to, these were video reports, I will see if I can find, but I didn't save the links but if not you may find it fairly easily if you google the title and then click on "videos".

Can you link where NATO denies this?

I got the impression that the US were open about NATO being there.

In relation to the rest of your post, you will find a lot of news reports which say that it is expected to be a close run between the pro EU president and the pro R opposition. I am just talking about the democratic process here, not commenting on outside interference. Do you agree?

Can you answer my other questions? Is there a EU trade agreement in draft?

Sorry about typos and anything unclear, I am in a rush!

Have you read MN?!

What a silly response.

Edited to add: just run your eye down the list of threads in Active Discussions and see how many of them are actually about parenting issues!

Actually, an AS of your name shows that you post a lot on threads about Ukraine/Conflicts in the Middle East - so are you trying to suggest that the OP of this thread is somehow not genuine?

In fact I alerted MNHQ last night as this is an "interesting first post" by this username.

However MNHQ have now told me it's a namechanger.

I couldn't possibly comment on whether the poster is genuine...

I notice still no link from the OP to the supposed Asian reports.

But the OP is demanding other posters produce links showing NATO denying OP's claim...

there have been protests which indicate that there is support in the electorate for closer ties with Russia

Bollocks is there significant Russian support in the electorate. The only people who will be pro-Russia will be the Russians transplanted there by the USSR - they used to do this everywhere they occupied, to suppress the local population. Positions of influence in the SSRs could only be taken by Russian speakers.

Putin is trying to tread down any opposition to his expansionist plans. We shouldn't let him win, because he'll come back for more.

Do you have any reputable sources. Ones that are trustworthy?

Nothing on the FT or NYT websites about Nato actually physically being in Moldova

And indeed now that the OP has posted more, I'm pretty sure I recognise them...

lol MN is no longer just a parenting forum. Have you looked at the topic range?

It's what the Russian Bots do.

Of course they aren't, don't be silly.

Of course Russia are totally playing by the rules here themselves. What with all the drones and accidentally straying into other countries' airspace. Totes legit 🤔

Shh shh. We're supposed to pretend they don't exist.

Russian disinformation

Perking, MNHQ have made it clear in the past that posters should not attack posters who have different political opinions from them, or call other posters "bots", and that doing so will be interpreted as troll hunting and will get you banned.

Your posts may not be interpreted as troll hunting but from my perspective you are just trying to cause trouble for the sake of it, reporting my post as an "interesting first post". It is because of posters like you that other posters like me have to change names.

And there it is...