To think it's a bit harsh to say people who've never worked shouldn't get benefits?

[DonaldBiden]

Was reading another thread where many were saying if someone has never worked they shouldn't get any benefits but couldn't comment because it had reached 1000 comments.

I know this might be an unpopular opinion but I don't agree because that would include young mums who can't work because they have a baby to look after. Most of them will get a job when their child is a little older. Why are they any different from older mums who've fallen on hard times and need help?

And I know people will say it's because they've never worked and haven't proven themselves unlazy etc and could be on the dole forever but why should they have their lives ruined just because of something people think MIGHT happen.

Why shouldn't they though? It's work.

They don't anymore because UC tells them when to get a job and how many hours to work.
Tax credits were a different story no conditions and paid for every child in the family. Everyone knew a large family where no one worked.

@Plastictreees why is it shameful to collect litter?

I have chronic health conditions that span most of my adult life so I don't think our situations are comparable.

Wow lots of judge jury and executioner nonsense on here tonight 🙄

Yes, I made a stupid choice. I let a boy have sex with me because he told me that he loved me. I was 16 years old and nobody had ever loved me in my life, ever. He was the first person who was ever nice to me, who made me feel like I was special and not useless or a nuisance. So I slept with him, not because I wanted to but because I was grateful.

And I got pregnant. I didn’t have a family to support me, or give me advice about contraception or a termination or what it meant to bring up a child.

I was a kid. Kids make stupid choices, especially in the absence of adult guidance.

omg are you actually asking that?
Do you have any clue about how severe autism can present?

A shared house for homeless young mums till I was 18

The idea of forcing people into picking up litter in high vis vests is ridiculous. Not everyone can work, shock horror.

One of my uni friends got pregnant. She would have loved to keep the child but had no choice. She was an immigrant & her parents would have demanded she had to go back. Attending university in this country was her opportunity to escape poverty.

@DonaldBiden when was that?

People doing community pay back after committing crime already do that.
Why do people on benefits need to be identified and shamed in public?

If there is a job that needs doing then offer them a proper job instead. Why the free labour?

2017-2019

Hence why I said 'if there's no good reason why they can't work'.

@DonaldBiden ok, are they still a thing?

Everyone can work. Work gives dignity. It means you can say truthfully: I am not here on charity.

It's a fair comment.

There are jobs that can be done from home eg 'stuffing' envelopes for marketing companies.
Phone sales for charities.
Customer service rep - remote

You don't have to be able-bodied for these jobs - just have use of a 'phone

Thee are lots of people currently on benefits for whom it’s a lifestyle choice

those mothers who work often do so because their income is needed to slow them to live. Should they stop working and claim benefits instead?

I know of people in my village who deliberately got pregnant as soon as their child reached the age at which it was expected they start to look for work and come off benefits. One did it 5 times and we are paying for those kids

Why the free labour?

To pay for the free money.

But not everyone who doesn't work can't
Anyone on benefits should be constantly looking for ways to be self sufficient.
Some will never find a way because of their disabilities and employer prejudice but doesn't mean they shouldn't try

I am sorry. I was rubbish at English at school and struggle a lot as an adult.
Other people will know what I meant. No need to be so pedantic and nasty. You added to nothing to my comment really.
He broke her spine. Happy with that explanation?

Well what do you consider a ‘good’ reason? I don’t think shaming people in order for them to ‘earn’ their benefits is acceptable.

It appears so

https://lifecharity.org.uk/covid/life-housing/

Shaming people isn’t going to make them ‘try’ harder.

PIP bill £15 million 2019/20

rising to £18.9 million 2022/23

An increase in recipients of 29% from 2019/20to 2022/23. That’s in 3 years !

Average cost to the tax payer of PIP appeals is £40million every year

These are yearly unknowns rising exponentially that cannot be sustained.