Migrants get up to £2000 on bankcard after prison sentences

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Just watched 47 migrants being deported, costing hundreds of thousands, private flights, huge number of security guards, the migrants then get given cash cards! Back to Romania after committing crimes here including murder, sexual offences, pedophiles with money to help them resettle in their own country.

ITV news - our own go hungry and cold.

We are total mugs here in the UK.

On a separate story migrants having taxis to appointments, free NHS. I mean we have to get to our own way.

Mugs. No wonder many people are unhappy. These are convicted criminals, being pandered to.

So you'd both rather they were on the backstreets? Sure that would go down well.

Totally agree with you. In most areas the NHS is failing. It’s no longer working. Almost everyone I know who has had surgery has had to wait for years to get it done and has then picked up an infection in a dirty hospital. Maternity care is on its knees which results in far too many poor outcomes, A & E is over utilised due to the inability to get a GP appointment. Massive wastage and administrative cock ups, We need to start again, look at countries such as The Netherlands and France who both have excellent provision. People take advantage of the nhs as they see it as being ‘free’. It’s abused and needs top to bottom reform and yes, we should have to contribute.

It’s a good investment for the future. It’s called prevention.

Yes and soon we will be paying for all these “carers” to be cared for. We have imported a great deal of poor unskilled people. 50% of social housing in London alone is headed by first generation migrants.

I’m genuinely confused by the mindset of some people. So import lots of people who need to go on benefits just as the country is on the brink of bankruptcy.

I am fortunate own home outright and will have good pension. I genuinely don’t understand the poor supporting this happening to our country just not to look racist.

Having highly skilled migrants, bring it on! The last 25 years we’ve had a lot of unskilled immigration. My lifestyle has been affected by this and definitely younger people won’t have the experience and privileges I had. I’m 50 now. I’m totally confused it’s like people think you’ve got something personal against foreigners I don’t, but I’d rather live in a wealthier country that can look after its own.

Also Muslims will soon be the main religion here. This is a genuine question are these lefties happy about this? It’s started supermarkets and universities only selling halal products. I don’t think Muslims are too hot on supporting gay right or women’s rights either, this is what enviably will happen in schools and so on. If people want this to happen to our country, well it’s the majority decision I suppose.

A client said to me today that they didn’t think people who didn’t pay tax should be able to vote. I was horrified at first but I thought about it and think we’d certainly be a great deal wealthier and could support the poor better if it wasn’t just people voting for more benefits for themselves. Money we now don’t have.

I cannot get my head round the mindset of a pyramid type scheme of more and more unskilled people into the country to “care” for our elderly.

Perhaps someone could explain this without calling me a racist.

I can’t tell you how I know in a professional capacity, but I will tell you now that the prosecutions of a certain demographic and custodial sentences that are given, they are
lined up for deportation, and in most cases they are back in the country stealing cars to order/other crime within the same area in under a month. Just with an alias and new ID.

The £2000 I am sorry to say is the very least of it, the harm and crime they are responsible for, not to mention the costs to the tax payers for long prison stays, court costs, police time, translators et al is absolutely eye watering. If only people knew the extent, perhaps it is best they don’t know….

I think this is really black and white thinking though - let them all in suggests a free for all with immigration when in reality there's very clear criteria for approved long term immigration status. Asylum seekers are only able to claim an allowance until their application is reviewed (the outdated approach to this process and inefficiency is not their fault nor should it be treated as such) and if they are granted leave to remain then they're here under genuine need at which point the vast majority then go into employment boosting our economy. This also makes up a tiny percentage of overall immigration. Other immigrants are not entitled to any benefits and need to work to supplement their income, again boosting our economy. Or there's international students who pay huge fees to study here supplementing higher education for local students. So really when you actually strip it back what we're talking about is people living here on expired visa's or who have gone off radar after a rejected asylum application who will be tracked down and most likely deported. They will not in the meantime be claiming benefits.

Immigration is central to our healthcare system. We have an ageing population and immigration will be something we rely on in years to come for manual jobs and many care related jobs. I personally have zero issue with immigrants living here who are paying their own way and contributing to taxes. I also have zero issue with my taxes being used to support those in genuine need of asylum which is everyone's human right to seek and I count myself fortunate that I've never been in a position to have to seek it. I would also point out that parts of the UK such as Northern Ireland have high levels of migration historically as a result of the troubles and further back the 'famine' which to my mind isn't a huge difference than anyone else fleeing war or seeking safety/opportunity for more security.

I would say that actually the failure in critical thinking applies to those who can't seem to recognise the differences in the failings and inefficiency of our home office system and the actual human beings at the mercy of it. Or who can't see through the transparency of the media campaign against migrants (of particular heritage let's be honest) to alleviate the accountability of government for the social issues they have created over many years of austerity, cuts and unfeasible spending. When people talk about 'illegal immigration ' in reference to anyone seeking asylum I absolutely roll my eyes because by law this is not illegal asylum and that is them parroting the carefully chosen language trotted out in the media to create scapegoats.

It must be impossible for you to fathom, but illegal migrants don’t need to be on the backstreets. If they were not allowed to stay in the first place. It’s really not a hard concept to grasp.

I would rather they were not here at all, because we have a competent secure system in our own country.

If you think we should literally have zero immigration then you're just beyond reasoning with

I said the numbers were small because THIS THREAD is about a small number. I don't know how to have a conversation with someone who can't manage to understand these things

Yes many people feel immigration is the biggest issue. Because they feel xenophobic.

We should have a government that is competent enough to manage the immigration that this country relies on.

Oh great, we’ve now moved onto Muslim bashing 🤣

Rightos have been moaning about the Muslim population for decades but they still only represent 5% of the population, so no, Islam isn’t taking over

And no one is forcing you to eat a curry. If you don’t like curry, get a fish and chips.

A load of words, not really saying much.

We don’t need a million immigrants a year. Or hundreds of thousands of illegal ones. There are millions on welfare who don’t work that could fill these jobs.

Far left fanatics use this language that our healthcare would not function. That is a choice. Healthcare would function if we trained our own people who currently sit around and burden the taxpayer even more. It’s a choice to bring in people on lower pay than locals would accept. The irony is that locals end up claiming benefits anyway so it costs more to take this approach.

And did you know that low paid migrants also get old. Shock horror. Who is going to look after them? More low paid migrants.

There’s a name for that. Ponzi Scheme. And they always collapse in the end.

Ah, the old ‘I can’t tell you because it’s top secret’ ruse 🤣

There is no evidence in that word salad you posted.

The bottom line is that the £2000 is the very least of it, and the overall cost of illegal migration is mind boggling, mind blowing and too much for most people to fully grasp.

It’s not wrong to highlight the smaller amounts - but the overall picture is totally and utterly unsustainable.

Regardless of what the beared left say smoking pot and imagining a border less world where we float from one utopia to another uninterrupted.

But they are here and many come for a good reason so your point is irrelevant.

I'd rather be a millionaire but I'm not.

I can’t be bothered to engage with you. I have given enough detail.

They are criminals? Any foreign national who breaks the law in the UK should be deported with no money or 'incentives' whether they live here with right to remain or not - that privilege should be taken away as soon as you break the law. I wonder how many other countries would tolerate this.

You sound defeated my dear.

If you're considering voting for Reform, then I do not believe that your politics are "in the centre". It is inconceivable that someone with genuinely centrist views would even consider voting for a far right party, and a few random comments couldn't possibly push you in that direction. So I would politely suggest that your views are not quite as close to the centre as you might like to think.

Those who choose to vote for Reform will need to own their choices. "They made me do it" is no defence.

None!! Which is exactly why they are all coming here. Absolute mugs that we are.

Except I didn’t say we should have literally zero immigration, did I?

And you made the point yourself- if this country relies on immigration, that’s not a societal good. It shouldn’t be necessary and that’s the issue that needs to be addressed.

The six year old eating only chicken nuggets is hardly an argument.

I saw the report last night and the government is looking into the taxi fares, which I agree appear to be excessive. I’m not disagreeing with you on Starmer (who I think will be gone before long) but Labour inherited a difficult situation which you can’t sort out overnight.

This is very much like the advice I was given if I wanted tenants to leave my property give them a month rent in advance and their deposit to get out of your house that they haven’t paid any rent on for 12 months
25 years ago I would’ve gone round there with a baseball bat changed the locks and put all the stuff on the lawn but now I have to pay them to not pay me any more 🙄

Didn’t Nigel say that he would give the Taliban money to take back migrants.

We have the joys of Andy Burnham to look forward to, is he going to call in the Navy? Start deporting en masse? Get a grip on immigration and the economy?……

It’s literally a protection racket
Give us money otherwise we’ll murder your citizens and when we do murder your citizens, you’ll have to give us more money so that you don’t have to give us more money 😳