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Violet Affleck and mask mandates

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aold · 24/09/2025 09:44

AIBU think that this shouldn’t be encouraged? Violet Affleck advocating for mask mandates. Daughter of Jennifer Garner and Ben Affleck. Speaking about the importance of masks. Says we should still be wearing them to curb the spread of Covid 19.
Shouldn’t a young privileged woman be enjoying her youth? Is there a reason for fit healthy people like her to still walk around in masks?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-15127909/violet-affleck-mask-mandates-long-covid-ben-jennifer-garner.html

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Tiredofwhataboutery · 24/09/2025 11:18

aold · 24/09/2025 11:03

and who will pay to filter the air in public buildings?

I think this is possibly where you contemplate replacement of buildings and think long term. There’s a few newish schools near me and they have heat recovery and air filtration built in. Heating a building of that size is a huge cost and they house local swimming pools too so £££s.

In comparison my local primary has bits that are 400 years old, it was opened by royal charter by King James. It’s energy rating is as bad as it gets and if you want fresh air you open a window.

At some point though eventually buildings will be redeveloped and that’s the time to bring them up to standard.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 24/09/2025 11:20

Dinkyshrinks · 24/09/2025 11:14

She is advocating for improved indoor air quality - seems rational to me. Fewer pathogens, healthier environment, less absence, better test scores. I want some of that for my children please. Fewer ear infections following viruses makes sense for those concerned about speech and language issues (especially as there is a shortage of speech and language therapists).

By the way, WHO improved their IAQ pretty quickly early on in the pandemic. Parliament followed suit.

Im sure Labour woyld find a way to tax us for the filtered air so I’d rather my air was slightly sullied but free please.

Mymanyellow · 24/09/2025 11:20

Is this the one thats a boy really, or am I thinking of someone else.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 24/09/2025 11:21

Tiredofwhataboutery · 24/09/2025 11:18

I think this is possibly where you contemplate replacement of buildings and think long term. There’s a few newish schools near me and they have heat recovery and air filtration built in. Heating a building of that size is a huge cost and they house local swimming pools too so £££s.

In comparison my local primary has bits that are 400 years old, it was opened by royal charter by King James. It’s energy rating is as bad as it gets and if you want fresh air you open a window.

At some point though eventually buildings will be redeveloped and that’s the time to bring them up to standard.

They don’t open a bloody window do they?!! My god how antiquated 😱

Uricon2 · 24/09/2025 11:22

People should wear masks if they want or need and maybe one after effect of Covid is being more conscious of taking care if unwell, especially around vulnerable people. I'm getting over sepsis and am trying to avoid infections (medical advice) but I know it's impossible to eliminate all risk. Things can be transmitted before symptoms appear, for a start.

However, there are only 2 reasons why this young woman has been given a platform at the UN as a first year undergrad aged 19 and their names are Ben Affleck and Jennifer Garner. I don't think it's good for her, even if she goes on to be a brilliant scientist in the future.

Thesoundofscience · 24/09/2025 11:30

It would be great if she could speak out in favour of clean air filtration systems in schools, like they hastily installed in the HoP during COVID. Now that really would help decrease the spread of airborne viruses such as Covid.

scorpiogirly · 24/09/2025 11:34

I think she needs a better education. The masks were pointless and did nothing.

Horsie · 24/09/2025 11:35

I also think she has MH issues. She's been wearing a mask clamped to her face for years now, while outdoors. It's just not normal this far after Covid. I feel as if she wore a mask pre-vaccines and then became unable to give them up. Reminds me a bit of Mrs. Tishell in Doc Martin who always wore that neck brace. She's a weird kid.

BloominNora · 24/09/2025 11:35

aold · 24/09/2025 10:01

yes, poor people have just as much chance at getting into Yale/Harvard/MIT/Cambridge as rich people. Where’s the laugh emoji?

. Posted too soon

Dinkyshrinks · 24/09/2025 11:35

Re: cost. Not doing anything has a large financial cost.

RobinEllacotStrike · 24/09/2025 11:35

Mymanyellow · 24/09/2025 11:20

Is this the one thats a boy really, or am I thinking of someone else.

That is her sister.

Advocating for wearing masks all these years after a pandemic is completely bonkers especially as evidence of the benefits of wearing them is sketchy at best.

Yes she is free to choose as mask. And the rest of us are free not to wear one.

HonoraBridge · 24/09/2025 11:35

Needmorelego · 24/09/2025 09:51

More likely the fact she goes to Yale.

You think everyone who goes to Yale gets the opportunity to speak at the UN? Seriously? It is clearly nepotism.

Hereforthecommentz · 24/09/2025 11:36

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 24/09/2025 10:42

My understanding of mask wearing in China is it is more of an etiquette thing. If you are poorly you wear a mask in enclosed spaces - not always.

Also we get no factual data from the communist regime of China so I don’t believe you could ascertain if there has been any negative impact from Covid rules and procedures to discount the quote from a PP about six year olds having been disadvantaged in the U.K.

They have huge pollution in china that's why they wear masks.

NautilusLionfish · 24/09/2025 11:37

I work in development. Am frustrated because there are so many youth in developing countries with real pressing issues. They work hard in their communities addressing such issues yet this precious platform is given to a privileged American girl to fight against banning Masks. No one is doing that at global level. IS something local republicans have talked about in passing in certain counties. Why is she pretending it's a global issue. She can continue to talk about it at the local town Hall but not at UN.
So many of us working in development are frustrated that celebrities are increasingly put at the front at issues they don't understand and really many don't care about. It's just PR. Few bring net benefit to the development agencies they speak on behalf of or the platforms they are given. So gatvol!

Meep2024 · 24/09/2025 11:37

Had to double check this thread wasn't from lockdowns. I don't know why people get so worked up over masks still. If you don't want to wear one then fine. If someone chooses to wear one for reasons they don't have to divulge to strangers that's also fine.

Hereforthecommentz · 24/09/2025 11:41

If she wants to wear a mask that's up to her. Advocating for mask mandates however is batshit. It would go down like a lead balloon, never going to happen so no need to get worked up about it. I'm not really into taking advice from Hollywood brats.

DontCallMeLenYouLittleBollix · 24/09/2025 11:42

Meep2024 · 24/09/2025 11:37

Had to double check this thread wasn't from lockdowns. I don't know why people get so worked up over masks still. If you don't want to wear one then fine. If someone chooses to wear one for reasons they don't have to divulge to strangers that's also fine.

I think it's because this particular individual has, if the article is accurate, said other people should be made to wear them sometimes. If it was just about her own choice then I'd agree with you. But she doesn't appear to concur with your very reasonable view that people might choose not to wear one and that's fine.

Pedallleur · 24/09/2025 11:43

would have thought there were bigger issues in the US right now for her to defend.is this her thing or has she a job eg lawyer

KicksPremium · 24/09/2025 11:43

It's like she's got this as some manifestation of OCD. I think she needs help, not a platform to rant on.

scalt · 24/09/2025 11:44

They haven't yet moved on to the masks killing fish and other wildlife, when they inevitably end up in the oceans, in their millions? The mask mandate came moments after the government was preaching "avoid single-use plastic waste".

If the masks had been "strongly recommended", I would have respected them more. But because no less of an authority than the Health Secretary said at first "masks are worse than useless", then there was the complete U-turn to making them compulsory, because people "feel safer" with them, or probably at the some moment that somebody realised they were the perfect tool with which to divide the public and make them fight, and an easy way to spot the sceptics so they could be rounded up and banished from society, I have been extremely sceptical they do any good. A lot of the stuff like "wear a mask when standing, but take it off to eat" was pure nonsense, and the government knew it: but it was an easy way to appear to be doing something. One shop near me had a little shrine to Saint Boris, with a picture of him saying "Boris says you must wear a mask in shops".

Allegedly, Boris's own behavioural team persuaded him to mask up, when he had resisted: they showed him pictures of world leaders all in masks, then one of himself not wearing one.

BloominNora · 24/09/2025 11:49

aold · 24/09/2025 10:01

yes, poor people have just as much chance at getting into Yale/Harvard/MIT/Cambridge as rich people. Where’s the laugh emoji?

MIT and Harvard have both started to offer free tuition to anyone whose parents earn less than $200,000 from this year. MIT started this in 2024 with a limit of $140,000 but have increased to $200,000. Yale offer it for families earning below $75,000

All three schools use a weighting system to assess attainment which takes into account opportunity. This means that a young person with a GPA of 3.7 from a state school will be given a higher weighting than a young person with the same score from a prestigious private school.

Similarly, a young person from a public state school background from a deprived area, will be weighted higher than a student from a state school in a less deprived area.

Over 80% of MIT students and 60% of Harvard students attended state school (and this will increase with the new free tuition policy) compared to 90% of children attending state school overall in the US.

This means US young people from less well off backgrounds stand a much better chance of being able to attend Ivy League colleges than UK children have of attending Russell Group universities.

British universities, generally don't offer blanket tuition free opportunities in the same way and our levels for maintenance loan qualification are much much lower, nor do they weight attainment to account for educational opportunity.

The percentage of state school educated children attending Oxford is 66% and decreasing, Cambridge is just over 70%, compared with just 93-94% of children attending state schools.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 24/09/2025 11:52

Mymanyellow · 24/09/2025 11:20

Is this the one thats a boy really, or am I thinking of someone else.

That's another one of the Affleck children.

BatsInSummer · 24/09/2025 11:55

Needmorelego · 24/09/2025 09:57

Never heard of scholarships? Poor people get to go to Yale too.
Yes her parents are rich but you've got to be very smart to go there.

Also, wealth is a privilege sure. But being raised by 'stars' has its drawbacks, and having an addict parent is a distinct disadvantage.

Chillyourbeansweeman · 24/09/2025 11:56

Just be honest and admit you have a problem with this girls parents being rich and famous. 🙄

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 24/09/2025 12:10

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 24/09/2025 10:19

Comparing a mask to a seatbelt in terms of safety is not an equivalence when one is hardly an inconvenience and the other is literally smothering your face with material for extended time.

I used to be an operating theatre nurse, and wore a surgical mask every working day, for extended periods of time - not to protect myself, but to protect the patients who had open wounds, on the operating table. I survived - no negative effects whatsoever.