Farage promises to deport people with ILR

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Nigel Farage stated he would deport anyone with existing indefinite leave to remain. We are talking about millions of people.
This terrifying. If people live here, work here, have kids and mortgages - where are they supposed to go?

I wonder what would happen if everyone with ILR, everyone with non-British born parents etc went on full strike for a few weeks. Brits need to understand how much we rely on migrant workers. Far fewer doctors and nurses, fewer carers, local shops shut, public transport grinds to a halt with minimum staff. The idea that migrant workers in the UK are somehow a drain on our society ignores the fact they are somehow integrated in our society that we cannot do without them. From highly skilled medical professionals to manual workers and everything in between.

I can’t see the farage followers being so willing to take on the shit jobs, shit shifts and holding together our infrastructure.

good luck UK without those who have iLR etc. Watch how fast your society collapses

Generally, low paid immigrant workers come because they can earn more here than at home. That will still be the case. Or are you suggesting they just come so that, when they've been here long enough, they can gain ILR and claim benefits?

The vast majority of people who's visas are not renewed aren't deported. They leave voluntarily. Deportation is forced, involuntary repatriation and is always a last resort. In fact the majority of failed asylum seekers who are repatriated are not deported - they leave voluntarily under the VRS scheme, which is cheaper and less traumatic for everyone.

This has really upset me. My husband got his ILR last year. We have two little girls together and he works full time. Farage is a liar and he'd likely never be able to do it, but it's still just such a frightening threat! I can't believe something this mad could even be proposed. Disgusted!

What about removing IRL status from UK residents and telling them to leave?

That is what is being proposed

The open door and generou s benefits no questions asked has led to this backlash.

The people pleased about this frighten me.

They are not “so called” illegals. Remaining in the UK when your visa has expired is a criminal offence. They are, by definition, illegal immigrants.

I’m generally not keen on any criminal, but you seem to be.

What open door and what generous benefits?

I agree. I hope none of them ever use services propped up by migration.

Hows Brexit going ?

Brexit means Brexit.

No I don’t. I do know doctors with ILR and one who is applying for it.

Honestly, anyone who thinks this must be a complete dimwit.

It’s a red, white, and blue Brexit.

Leaving voluntarily because you're told that if you don't leave voluntarily you'll be removed by force isn't really that different to being removed by force.

Foreign nationals (other than those on humanitarian visas or refugees with an accepted claim) can only claim benefits after five years of residency. If what you're saying is that you believe someone, who has contributed for minimum five years with no recourse to public funds and then needs (for whatever reason) to claim some benefits, should be deported or that you believe that people are coming to the UK and working for five years solely to be able to then "live off" benefits - this says quite a lot about you, maybe you need to have a little think.

83.6% of UC claimants are British & Irish nationals. Around 15% of UC claimants are non UK/Ireland nationals - and over 70% of these are EU nationals, who came in the decades before Brexit. 40% of UC claimants are in work. Statistically, migrant and non-migrant populations in the UK claim benefits at broadly the same rate. And most non-UK/Ireland passport holders in the UK on a visa (except categories such as Health & Care workers) pay an annual NHS surcharge for themselves and each family member. This is over £1k for an adult and around £776 for a u18 every year.

The headlines of hate from the likes of the Fail are just that.

Yup.

"Let's retrospectively change legal immigrants' status (and the meaning of the word 'indefinite' while we're at it) so we can justifiably despise them for now being rendered illegal."

I'm pretty sure they are using services propped up by immigration. It would be difficult in this country try not to.

I suspect though that rather than a light bulb switching on receiving a service from someone obviously not born in this country angers and upsets them just more.

Do you wait until that happens? Most people follow the law and are not deported.

Oh it is different. You get a bung of several grand if you agree to go voluntarily.

You're talking out of your arse

1 in 6 claims for UC is from an immigrant. This is a fact.

Yes but the word for removal is still deportation which is the point I was answering @EasternStandard

We don't have an open door and social security benefits are far from generous.

Run off back to the Mail, sweetie, and imbibe some more hate-fuelled, fact-free nonsense there.