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Housing stigma

353 replies

Antiquedoll · 20/09/2025 15:37

Has anyone else noticed an increase in bad attitude towards social housing from property owners? I hought the UK was progressive and believed innequality but it seems to me the division is growing?

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Itdoesntmatteranyway · 21/09/2025 22:31

Pisses me off when people have more kids than they can afford to house.
There I’ve said it.
’oh we’re in a 3 bed council house but then we had 2 more kids can’t believe it’s so hard to get a bigger property’. Boo hoo.

Littlemrsconfetti · 21/09/2025 22:38

PrincessC0nsuelaBananaHammock · 21/09/2025 21:25

Is it? How so? What part of my taxes are paying for my house, dear?

She think she knows it all. No point of a discussion with the her! She won't be told but is jeleous of others living in SH.

Kirbert2 · 21/09/2025 22:40

Perimenoanti · 21/09/2025 22:22

It's probably still an option for those that have been in their home a long time and have some old contact. I know someone who could either buy it or pass it to a child.

I only moved here in January and this is my first social housing property. To be fair it was vague and I didn't ask for more details because I got the impression that it wouldn't be an option until I'd lived here for a period of time.

Perimenoanti · 21/09/2025 22:43

Littlemrsconfetti · 21/09/2025 22:27

It's not that I don't seem to acknowledge. You seem to think you have the right to lecture and look down on others. Life is unfair and that's just the way the cookie crumbles. Theres no point of being envious of what others have.

Doesn't make me ungrateful. You have repeatedly told me and others how I should be "greatful". I would look closer to home if I were you instead of poking your nose so far in others business. Very presumptuous!

Not at all. I think that's just how you feel and you think that I look down on you because that's what you project. I don't. I know I was lucky in other ways and others not so much. I said that I would pinch myself if I got a social housing property for life. Not once did I say you ought to be grateful, but now you mentioned it I just wonder why you wouldn't be. I would certainly appreciate it if I got this out of a not so nice situation for the rest of my life. I think that's pretty amazing. I just don't agree with it as it's subsidised and I think it should sort of be means tested more than just at the start of the tenancy and then never again.

Perimenoanti · 21/09/2025 22:46

Littlemrsconfetti · 21/09/2025 22:38

She think she knows it all. No point of a discussion with the her! She won't be told but is jeleous of others living in SH.

I'm jealous indeed of the stability and safety it provides. I think that's pretty good. I would like that too. But I took the other route and went on to earn a lot of money because I could. I was lucky I could. But it can change and then Im fucked at the very bottom of any housing list.

Kirbert2 · 21/09/2025 22:50

Perimenoanti · 21/09/2025 22:46

I'm jealous indeed of the stability and safety it provides. I think that's pretty good. I would like that too. But I took the other route and went on to earn a lot of money because I could. I was lucky I could. But it can change and then Im fucked at the very bottom of any housing list.

That depends on the circumstances of the luck changing if it was to change.

Luck changing in my family's circumstances meant we went straight to the top of the housing list and were housed just a month later.

Perimenoanti · 21/09/2025 22:50

Kirbert2 · 21/09/2025 22:40

I only moved here in January and this is my first social housing property. To be fair it was vague and I didn't ask for more details because I got the impression that it wouldn't be an option until I'd lived here for a period of time.

I couldn't quite figure out if you meant you can or cannot buy it in the future. I thought you meant you can't.

Perimenoanti · 21/09/2025 22:52

Kirbert2 · 21/09/2025 22:50

That depends on the circumstances of the luck changing if it was to change.

Luck changing in my family's circumstances meant we went straight to the top of the housing list and were housed just a month later.

As a single female I wouldn't. I guess it was children that meant you went straight to the top?

Littlemrsconfetti · 21/09/2025 22:52

@Perimenoanti anybodys luck could change at any given time!. Theres no point of being jelous of what others have tbh I never watch what others have because you don't know how they come by it. I also think its a negative outlook. So although you keep speaking about being "grateful" you don't seem very content. You have said numerous times that you don't agree- that is perfectly fine. However you need to comprehend someone like me isn't going to move out of my SH 3 doors down to pay 3x as much to the on the same bloody street. Nobody would not even you!

I don't begrudge others because it's unkind and quite frankly none of my business either.

Quandri · 21/09/2025 22:55

Perimenoanti · 21/09/2025 22:52

As a single female I wouldn't. I guess it was children that meant you went straight to the top?

You’re only a car crash away from needing adapted accommodation, the majority of which is council or HA.

Kirbert2 · 21/09/2025 22:56

Perimenoanti · 21/09/2025 22:52

As a single female I wouldn't. I guess it was children that meant you went straight to the top?

No, having children alone doesn't mean you go straight to the top nowadays either.

It did involve my child, he was in hospital at the time and our rental property was assessed as unsuitable for his needs which meant he'd only be discharged if we had a suitable property for him to be discharged to so it became a mad rush to find somewhere in time for discharge and we did with days to spare thankfully.

Perimenoanti · 21/09/2025 22:58

Littlemrsconfetti · 21/09/2025 22:52

@Perimenoanti anybodys luck could change at any given time!. Theres no point of being jelous of what others have tbh I never watch what others have because you don't know how they come by it. I also think its a negative outlook. So although you keep speaking about being "grateful" you don't seem very content. You have said numerous times that you don't agree- that is perfectly fine. However you need to comprehend someone like me isn't going to move out of my SH 3 doors down to pay 3x as much to the on the same bloody street. Nobody would not even you!

I don't begrudge others because it's unkind and quite frankly none of my business either.

Jealousy is a normal feeling everyone experiences from time to time. I prefer to deal with it as opposed to completely deny it exists in me. you only heard what you wanted to hear and what seemed like it was against you. I'm not. I even said I would pinch myself if I got one of these properties and wouldn't move. I'm not asking you to move. It's not personal but you seem to have taken it personally. You are not going to get me 😘

Perimenoanti · 21/09/2025 23:00

Quandri · 21/09/2025 22:55

You’re only a car crash away from needing adapted accommodation, the majority of which is council or HA.

I know but even that's a struggle. I know someone in a wheelchair who can't get accessible housing.

Perimenoanti · 21/09/2025 23:01

Kirbert2 · 21/09/2025 22:56

No, having children alone doesn't mean you go straight to the top nowadays either.

It did involve my child, he was in hospital at the time and our rental property was assessed as unsuitable for his needs which meant he'd only be discharged if we had a suitable property for him to be discharged to so it became a mad rush to find somewhere in time for discharge and we did with days to spare thankfully.

I had no idea. I thought with children as the most vulnerable you'd be straight at the top. I assume its crowded even there.

Kirbert2 · 21/09/2025 23:04

Perimenoanti · 21/09/2025 23:01

I had no idea. I thought with children as the most vulnerable you'd be straight at the top. I assume its crowded even there.

The only reason you go anywhere near the top now is medical needs which is why we were at the top because we needed an adapted property.

Overcrowding doesn't count for much these days.

CheeseyOnionPie · 21/09/2025 23:14

Seabubbles · 21/09/2025 17:40

As I said previously, we have been stuck in Temporary Accommodation for 2 years now and honestly give anything for a 2 bed house. And I found this braggy post irritating, this poster was fortunate enough to have raised their family in a secure home, and now their child has moved out they boast that they aren't going to downsize and let another family have the same chance. I get they are not obligated to but bearing in mind we are in a Housing Crisis where thousands of families are suffering, maybe don't show off.

I support you. It’s not fair that the housing stock isn’t redistributed when people don’t need as much space anymore to give another family the chance to raise their children in a secure home. As long as they’re given an alternative property and not just turfed out I don’t think there is anything wrong with making people vacate houses that are too big for them.

Perimenoanti · 21/09/2025 23:17

CheeseyOnionPie · 21/09/2025 23:14

I support you. It’s not fair that the housing stock isn’t redistributed when people don’t need as much space anymore to give another family the chance to raise their children in a secure home. As long as they’re given an alternative property and not just turfed out I don’t think there is anything wrong with making people vacate houses that are too big for them.

According to some posters here that are in SH that's just how the cookie crumbles.

Quandri · 21/09/2025 23:18

Perimenoanti · 21/09/2025 23:00

I know but even that's a struggle. I know someone in a wheelchair who can't get accessible housing.

I know. I’m currently mid renovation to make this property suitable for me and my increasing need for my wheelchair and my partner is blind. It’s a party a minute at the moment here.

JenniferBooth · 21/09/2025 23:19

Perimenoanti · 21/09/2025 22:46

I'm jealous indeed of the stability and safety it provides. I think that's pretty good. I would like that too. But I took the other route and went on to earn a lot of money because I could. I was lucky I could. But it can change and then Im fucked at the very bottom of any housing list.

Are you jealous of the flammable cladding thats still on some flats too.

Perimenoanti · 21/09/2025 23:24

JenniferBooth · 21/09/2025 23:19

Are you jealous of the flammable cladding thats still on some flats too.

Oh Jenny, you will wish you hadn't said that. The re-cladding on my block is just complete. I bought a HA property years ago. It was a long period of battle and uncertainty until we knew that we wouldn't have to pay for it ourselves. The original builder paid and they just went bust. Phew.

Did you think this only affected social housing?

Perimenoanti · 21/09/2025 23:27

Perimenoanti · 21/09/2025 23:24

Oh Jenny, you will wish you hadn't said that. The re-cladding on my block is just complete. I bought a HA property years ago. It was a long period of battle and uncertainty until we knew that we wouldn't have to pay for it ourselves. The original builder paid and they just went bust. Phew.

Did you think this only affected social housing?

@JenniferBooth and this included social housing blocks which have received their re-cladding too, but the tenants never had to worry about having to pay a penny.

Now how are we going to continue this debate?

Perimenoanti · 21/09/2025 23:31

@JenniferBooth those not in SH and with the inflammable cladding had to stay put too. Banks wouldnt lend against these properties. They were valued at zero. Scaffolding and building noise meant that those looking to move struggled to rent out their homes at a price that covered the expenses. People put off having children because they couldn't sell their 1bed for a good five years.

Mama2many73 · 21/09/2025 23:34

wobblycake · 20/09/2025 16:14

Im single and childless child moved out. Im in social housing 2 bed and love it.
Life time tenancy my rent is dirt cheap.
And im in a fantastic area.
Ive been asked to downsize a few times via friends of friend to a 1 bed not going to happen.
It also feels like home with security.

My friend is in a 2 bed house, not big, its in what was a good area but new families coming in have some major issues. She would LOVE to downgrade to a 1 bed bungalow (medical reasons) but there isn't any and any new bungalows are currently 2 bed for when a carer needs a room .
Not sure what her rent is currently but a few yrs ago it was the same as our (low) mortgage but for a much smaller house.

JenniferBooth · 21/09/2025 23:40

Livelovebehappy · 21/09/2025 21:42

Private renters are looked down on in exactly the same way. It’s always been the case that if you don’t own your own home, people treat you differently. I’m back on the property ladder now, but when renting for several years, the judgement and snobbery around renting on any level was, and still is, very prevalent.

I must have missed all the threads slagging off private renters on here Links please

Kirbert2 · 21/09/2025 23:44

JenniferBooth · 21/09/2025 23:40

I must have missed all the threads slagging off private renters on here Links please

I went from private renting to social housing and never felt as judged as I do in social housing.

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