To think this is fraud and do I say something or stay out of it?

[doitellthem]

I have NC'd for this. A friend of mine NEVER has to pay for work on her house...she has a family member who is high up in a business and so all of the work is put through the business. She says they are doing the jobs as favours! surely this is fraud! do i stay out of it or say something (who do i even report to!!)She currentky has a landscper in doing the garden...just so happens to be the landscaper who does the work for said business!

Stay out of it! It's not your business and nobody has died. I don't get why you are so concerned, good luck to them.

Exactly. One of the benefits of owning your own business or working for family is that you often benefit from free or heavily discounted labour.

I’m assuming that the materials will go through the companies books as legitimate business expenses, so reducing their tax liability.
Something to remember when people complain about public services being underfunded.

be careful ladies. You might have a friend you despises you.

who needs enemies.

OP you have less than zero actual knowledge of the financials or how the business is processing this. You are just miserable and mean.

This is so weird, leave her alone.

Weird you think this, because as a Brit I read these threads and think 'Christ, it's now become clear how the Stasi prospered in East Germany'.

Hideous behaviour to take delight in shopping your friends and neighbours because you're jealous they're getting something you're not. OP should keep her beak out.

If this is what is happening, it is tax evasion. It's funny how people seem to be condoning this (if this is indeed what is happening) but are very hard on fraudulent benefit claims and tax avoidance (not even evasion necessarily) by wealthy individuals and companies.

This affects you how exactly?

I’d suggest you get a life. And end contact with your lucky friend as you clearly aren’t hers

We don’t know what’s happening - the OPs description is so ambiguous

I completely agree with you. I said the same in an earlier post, tagged her and asked her to clarify. I also said 'if this is what is happening' in the post you have quoted.

It's being used as a tax write off, so effectively being paid for by the government.

I wouldn't bother reporting it personally, but I'm surprised how many people are fine with this when benefit fraud threads are full of people saying to report it because it's government money being used.

yes this. The relative does not own company A...the job is being carried out by company B and Company A pays...unknowingly!

Is it a small family business, or a large multi national?
it a government owned business?

What are you talking about? How does a company deciding to take on a loss making contract constitute fraud?

Bizarre post which seems to be motivated by an attack of the green-eyed monster.

OP has provided no explanation or evidence that indicates this is the case.

So now you’re saying that a different company is being invoiced for work that has nothing to do with them? Surely they should have controls in place to check their invoices and that these match their purchase orders for agreed work so would notice random unauthorised invoices for work which is nothing to do with them? How do you know that this is what is happening, do you work for Company A?

How do you know the paying company doesn't know?

If they don’t, they will shortly unless they don’t bother looking at their accounts, and the offending person will be caught.

Not your business

Have you asked yourself why you want to get involved?
What's in it for you?
Revenge?

Don’t be jel. If I had a relative who had a business I world not expect to pay him! I’d make him a nice cake!

The tradesman gives over their invoice and employee puts it through the books as work done for the company or companies client.

Yes. Then that is embezzlement and could lead to a custodial sentence. You could report unanimously to the company.

So in that case, it appears that the relative is defrauding the company and also the tax payer because it is being claimed as a business expense. The relative should lose their job and your friend should be paying for her own bills. I would definitely want to know about this is my company was being defrauded.

Why assume it's unknowingly? I work in construction and get freebies from the company. It's a perk of the job.

Its not uncommon, and not illegal - I've just done a few electrical jobs at a clients house who is a director of a company who give me lots of work.

I offered to do it for a few beers as a thank you for all the work I've had this past year.

Call it customer relations, call it marketing, call it what you will, its not illegal in private sector business, it might be a company policy that staff cannot accept gifts from suppliers, but that is by no means universal.

My labour is free, the cost of the materials just gets lost in mark up calculations on other quotes, as do a lot of incidental costs.

Nothing is expected in return.