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How Many Children Would You Have...

243 replies

OtherS · 13/09/2025 17:38

If you had no worries about space, money, negative impact on career, social life etc? A lot of people seem to suggest that the collapsing birth rate is down to financial worries etc, but I'm wondering whether it's at least as much to do with women not actually wanting huge numbers of children. We used to have 6, 7 or more very regularly of course, but we didn't have much choice back then. Now we have contraception and less societal / marital pressure to have kids, is the reason for low birth rates more to do with woman's choice than concern about the impact of a large family?

AIBU - It's all about money; if I could afford to have 14 kids, keep my job, figure and lifestyle, I'd be all in
YANBU - Even with all the wealth - and nannies - in the world, 1 or 2 would definitely be more than enough for me, thanks.

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TheeNotoriousPIG · 13/09/2025 20:33

I would have four. I'd be fine picking names for boys (there aren't many that I like!), but I'd struggle to limit myself with girls' names, as there are so many nice ones!

GoldWhiteandBlue · 13/09/2025 20:36

One. I dont understand the obsession with siblings

LemonViewer · 13/09/2025 20:37

I have 2, I’m very lucky to have 2. I would have loved to have 3. I had 4 losses in between my first and second and after our rainbow baby finally arrived I knew I couldn’t go through that again so didn’t and will never try again. But yea, it money/health/career not an issue 3 would’ve been lovely!

wand3rer · 13/09/2025 20:40

0 or 4.

Choice driven by health, rather than money 👀

grafittiartist · 13/09/2025 20:44

I have 2, but money no object, would have loved 4.

Peacepleaselouise · 13/09/2025 20:45

4 probably, but health and finances preclude it. So we have two.

AliasGrape · 13/09/2025 20:47

I always wanted 4, that was before I actually had any.

Age/ life circumstances/ fertility issues meant I had only 1.

I’d have liked 2 probably, but have learned enough from my one to know that that would probably have been my limit.

Gothamcity · 13/09/2025 20:47

I'd would have liked 3 really, and we did consider it when dc were younger, but I need to work, it would have meant a change in alot of things and our current 2 going with less. If money, space and energy weren't an issue we would have liked 3. We have a 4 bed house but one room is dhs office, and it would have been a struggle to afford a 5 bed where we are. As a family of 4, we get to do lots of nice holidays, and live a comfortable life, which wouldn't be possible with a 3rd.

OtherS · 13/09/2025 20:48

Cheepcheepcheep · 13/09/2025 19:57

This is a really interesting point OP. We have a 4 bed house (and room to extend) so maybe I wouldn’t have needed to win the lottery. I would however have needed to jack in my job because we can’t survive on one income.

I am dyed in the wool feminist but I fully acknowledge that a world that needs two incomes to survive is what has pushed fertility rates off a cliff.

I suppose the next question is what exactly would be needed to let women have as many children as they want. Would you have been happy having four and continuing to work, again presuming you could access unlimited help with childcare, homework, life admin etc. Or would everyone in a world where they could have as many as they want be envisioning giving up work? What would a world look like where women have the families they choose for themselves, where they also continue to have equal rights and ability to build a career, and not have any children at all if they so wish.

Would it look like a conservative trad-wife society, though hopefully with more respect shown to women than is necessarily the case. Or would it have happy, busy career women handing their smiling children over to nannies whilst someone else cleans their home, does their shopping etc. Or a world where women can access flexible working and career breaks until their children go to school, where they are still being paid a full wage, and where their absence doesn't derail their career. And possibly men too can and do take time off to do half of the childrearing.

Or is it just not at all possible even in wild fantasy, and the only way to ensure births reach population replacement rates is to return societal power to men, and return women to basically just breeders.

(Not asking you to answer, just idly musing!)

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DontGoJasonWaterfalls · 13/09/2025 20:48
  1. I used to think I'd have at least 3 or 4 kids, but I can't imagine myself with any more than one child now, even if money were no object. We love being "one and done".

Plus, DD is 11 and gaining independence. Some of my friends are starting families now (30/31) and I just can't imagine starting over again.

NotAMessiahJustAVeryNaughtyBoy · 13/09/2025 20:49

I have 3 and would love one more. My 3rd is much younger than my older 2 (different father) and I’d like for her to have a sibling her age to grow up with like my older 2 had/have with each other. But I’m nearly 40 so not likely, there are more medical risks and issues to consider as an older parent and we just don’t have the space/money/energy.

OtherS · 13/09/2025 20:50

TheeNotoriousPIG · 13/09/2025 20:33

I would have four. I'd be fine picking names for boys (there aren't many that I like!), but I'd struggle to limit myself with girls' names, as there are so many nice ones!

😂 Exactly the same! Could have 25 girls and not run out of names, struggle to name 1 boy really!

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user1476613140 · 13/09/2025 20:51

I wanted a full dining table with my children all around it especially for Christmas and got it. I have four children and concern over career hasn't had any bearing on my choices. We have been able to afford it as we do not have a mortgage. I did have a career many years ago but willingly chose to be a SAHM to have them all. 17 years and counting. I am also an OU student and carving out time for myself as they're all getting older now.

daysfilledwithdappledlight · 13/09/2025 20:51

I’d have 3-4
money is of course a reason. But it’s mainly age, I’m too old to have that many, and I’d like a decent gap between each. If I could change something it would be having my first at 28, then I may have gone on to have 3. But alas, so many of us don’t get to choose when we have our first (if we’re lucky enough to have them at all)

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 13/09/2025 20:52

I have two and would have had one more if I had more resources - we could afford 3 but we don’t have family nearby so the logistics of drop offs/sick children are all on us. I’d pay for more support/a nanny.

MumofSpud · 13/09/2025 20:53

I have 2 and wanted 3 but DH said no! And our 3rd baby became a dog!
I have a DS and a DD but if both had been DS would have pushed harder for a third

anotherlonelynight · 13/09/2025 20:55

I would have had 1 more to round up to 4

Gymbunny2025 · 13/09/2025 20:55

OtherS · 13/09/2025 20:48

I suppose the next question is what exactly would be needed to let women have as many children as they want. Would you have been happy having four and continuing to work, again presuming you could access unlimited help with childcare, homework, life admin etc. Or would everyone in a world where they could have as many as they want be envisioning giving up work? What would a world look like where women have the families they choose for themselves, where they also continue to have equal rights and ability to build a career, and not have any children at all if they so wish.

Would it look like a conservative trad-wife society, though hopefully with more respect shown to women than is necessarily the case. Or would it have happy, busy career women handing their smiling children over to nannies whilst someone else cleans their home, does their shopping etc. Or a world where women can access flexible working and career breaks until their children go to school, where they are still being paid a full wage, and where their absence doesn't derail their career. And possibly men too can and do take time off to do half of the childrearing.

Or is it just not at all possible even in wild fantasy, and the only way to ensure births reach population replacement rates is to return societal power to men, and return women to basically just breeders.

(Not asking you to answer, just idly musing!)

I’d have loved 4 but I’m not sure I need to be helped to have 4! Why?! 2 works for us and is fine

if I win the lottery though…

CatchTheWind1920 · 13/09/2025 20:56

I've got 2. Door is open for a third but we will very likely never walk through it. For me, the reasons are sleep and illness. I can't go through the lack of sleep again if I get another bad sleeper (like my second). I always said if someone dropped off a 2.5 year old, sleeping through the night with all their teeth, I'd have three.

Dh's reasons are financial.

Zanatdy · 13/09/2025 20:57

I had 3 (with big age gaps as I started young). I’d have maybe had one more if money was no object etc, or may have stuck with 3 as I had 2 x DS, then 1 DD.

Blarn · 13/09/2025 20:57

I have two but I'd have loved three. It was money definitely that stopped the third. I suppose we could now but I don't want to at 40. Partly as I feel too old and unfit now but I also don't want to go back into all the sleepless nights, relentlessness of it all etc. So it was money bit also I suppose I ust don't want to.

ACIGC · 13/09/2025 20:58

I wish I’d had 5

too many reasons why I didn’t

grrrlatrix · 13/09/2025 21:01

I’m glad I am not rich because I am impulsive and would probably keep going just for a laugh if I didn’t have to work outside of the home and we had more bedrooms.

MotherOfRatios · 13/09/2025 21:03

Men are part of the issue for me aswell women have made strides in their careers and challenged stereotypes but men are still clinging onto the characteristics of 'providing' and not many actually want kids if the domestic and mental load of a Home is split. The only reason men say they want kids a lot of the time is because they know their partner will do the bulk of looking after the Home and the kids.

I'm in my 20s and honestly I don't know if I will have kids because most men I date and interactive don't seem to want an equal relationship in terms of parenting and is getting worse with the rise of glorifying trad wives incel culture and misogyny perpetuated by the life of Andrew Tate. When I date older men they are jealous of my success so dating younger or older it doesn't have results for me.

if parenting was more equal, I probably still would only have two just because as a black woman, I'm more likely to die in childbirth and I don't want to risk that multiple times.

Callalilly2016 · 13/09/2025 21:03

I have 2. If I was younger and richer, I would have had 3, possibly 4.