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Racially aggravated rape and assault

96 replies

ThatRoseBear · 12/09/2025 20:46

Two days ago in Oldbury, West Midlands a British born Sikh woman in her 20s was raped and assaulted around 8.00am just off a busy road. The two suspects were white males who made a comment along the lines of she didn't belong in this country during the attack.
I am heartbroken for this girl, they targeted her based on her skin colour through hate and used sexual and physical violence against her to make their point.

This is in a diverse area that is quite familiar to me. I am absolutely petrified for my teenage kids and have sat them down this evening to discuss safety. They are in their mid to late teens and racism hasn't been something that has particularly effected them. I had it when younger but not much as an adult thankfully. I thought in 2025 we were better than this.

AIBU to think we should have an expectation of safety irrespective of skin colour?

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CuriousKangaroo · 13/09/2025 12:43

TY78910 · 13/09/2025 12:27

Utterly shocking. Disgusting on every level.

It always makes me wonder why (if a race ‘disgusts’ you so much) you would choose to force that person to have sex with you. How does that bring you ‘pleasure’ if you’d never consider yourself striking a relationship with a person from that race, but you’d get aroused at the thought of raping them. Despicable people. I know it’s to ‘show dominance’, but you could do that by beating someone up (which would also be horrific) - I’m just perplexed about the sexual aspect of those attacks. Probably not articulating it very well.

Because rape is always about power, not sex. It’s the power and lessening the humanity of women that arouses them. Consider, for example, the use of rape in war. It’s a weapon of power. It’s almost unrelated to sex itself.

krustykittens · 13/09/2025 12:53

All these people painting roundabouts and shouting at hotels claiming their country has gone to shit, are too dim to realise that THEY are the reason this country has gone to shit. No one should be living in fear. That poor woman, I hope she finds a way to recover from what those men did to her. And I hope they get a very long sentence.

Simonjt · 13/09/2025 12:55

ILoveWhales · 13/09/2025 12:17

AIBU to think we should have an expectation of safety irrespective of skin colour?

Yes. But i do wonder why it was acceptable for Pakistani gangs to target white female children to rape and the authorities were too scared to do anything in case the upset the Pakistani rapists.

You mean the authorities didn’t investigate because they themselves were raping the same victims, and didn’t want to remove their own source of victim.

AutumnalLight · 13/09/2025 12:59

This is what these fucking racist reform voters and Tommy Robinson have unleashed. SHAME on them! Absolutely disgusting.

ilovesooty · 13/09/2025 13:01

AutumnalLight · 13/09/2025 12:59

This is what these fucking racist reform voters and Tommy Robinson have unleashed. SHAME on them! Absolutely disgusting.

And they're vocal on this site too, in a way that they weren't a couple of years ago. They're happy to promote their agenda even if it means being completely indifferent to the suffering of a woman who's been violated.

Hibernatingtilspring · 13/09/2025 13:17

OutsideNetty · 13/09/2025 12:14

Males who will rape a woman will find a reason in their own heads why she was lower than him and therefore a suitable victim: in this case she's racially different, she could be a 'pov' care-leaver no-one cares much about, no better than she should be for wearing 'sexy' clothes, an uppity bitch who disrespected him ... they don't run out of reasons.

A male who will rape a woman isn't motivated by politics.

Politics emboldens them though.
There is far more overt racism now than there was a few years ago, it creates a culture where certain people feel their actions are justified.

CuriousKangaroo · 13/09/2025 13:29

OutsideNetty · 13/09/2025 12:14

Males who will rape a woman will find a reason in their own heads why she was lower than him and therefore a suitable victim: in this case she's racially different, she could be a 'pov' care-leaver no-one cares much about, no better than she should be for wearing 'sexy' clothes, an uppity bitch who disrespected him ... they don't run out of reasons.

A male who will rape a woman isn't motivated by politics.

Politics which seeks to dehumanise immigrants provides another reason to see women of colour as lower than them and provides another “reason” to justify raping them.

MrsSkylerWhite · 13/09/2025 13:48

ilovesooty · 13/09/2025 13:01

And they're vocal on this site too, in a way that they weren't a couple of years ago. They're happy to promote their agenda even if it means being completely indifferent to the suffering of a woman who's been violated.

Thankfully, they remain the minority though. I find it very odd that the usual suspects seem to have the ability to pop up in answer to every post directed at them very quickly, whatever the time of day or night. You could be excused thinking it’s almost like they are online at work.

millymollymoomoo · 13/09/2025 13:50

To pretend that white Ellen are not raised due to their skin colour of ethnicity is disingenuous and simply not true. Many cultures see white women as targets

all rapes are equally disgusting

HelpMeUnpickThis · 13/09/2025 13:53

JustSawJohnny · 12/09/2025 23:46

WTF is this shit?

Did you even read the post before getting all gammony and starting frothing at the mouth with the YEAH BUTs?

I think the suggestion of the attack being racially motivated may be because THE BASTARDS VERBALLY TAUNTED THE VICTIM ABOUT HER COLOUR AND HER BEING IN 'THEIR' COUNTRY AS THEY RAPED HER!!!

Bit of a giveaway, don't you think?!

@JustSawJohnny

Dont waste your breath on @millymollymoomoo - this poster is the worst kind.

MiddleAgedMusings · 13/09/2025 14:08

millymollymoomoo · 13/09/2025 13:50

To pretend that white Ellen are not raised due to their skin colour of ethnicity is disingenuous and simply not true. Many cultures see white women as targets

all rapes are equally disgusting

I am sorry but their race didn't have as much to do with it as people think in terms of why grooming gangs targeted white girls. It was their vulnerable status, and the fact that they came from broken or foster homes. The fact that they had the freedom to be on the streets. These vile men would do the same to any other colour of girls if they presented with the same vulnerabilities. This won't suit your agenda but Pakistani gangs have also been known to target Sikh girls - however they don't tend to come from broken homes and there aren't many in the foster system, so this has never happened at the age of 12 like it has in Rotherham with white girls, however it has happened when they have left home for the first time to go to University, when they get a bit of freedom and the chains have been cut free. This is when the groomers pounce. Sikh groups and temples have been tirelessly educating girls and families about this issue for decades. And no, the police have never taken action, nor has it been in the news, it has been left for community leaders to do it themselves.

JHound · 13/09/2025 14:20

ThatRoseBear · 12/09/2025 20:46

Two days ago in Oldbury, West Midlands a British born Sikh woman in her 20s was raped and assaulted around 8.00am just off a busy road. The two suspects were white males who made a comment along the lines of she didn't belong in this country during the attack.
I am heartbroken for this girl, they targeted her based on her skin colour through hate and used sexual and physical violence against her to make their point.

This is in a diverse area that is quite familiar to me. I am absolutely petrified for my teenage kids and have sat them down this evening to discuss safety. They are in their mid to late teens and racism hasn't been something that has particularly effected them. I had it when younger but not much as an adult thankfully. I thought in 2025 we were better than this.

AIBU to think we should have an expectation of safety irrespective of skin colour?

So sorry this happened to her. My brother and his family live in Oldbury so even more disturbing for me

Hope they catch the sickos quickly.

BluntPlumHam · 13/09/2025 15:28

TY78910 · 13/09/2025 12:27

Utterly shocking. Disgusting on every level.

It always makes me wonder why (if a race ‘disgusts’ you so much) you would choose to force that person to have sex with you. How does that bring you ‘pleasure’ if you’d never consider yourself striking a relationship with a person from that race, but you’d get aroused at the thought of raping them. Despicable people. I know it’s to ‘show dominance’, but you could do that by beating someone up (which would also be horrific) - I’m just perplexed about the sexual aspect of those attacks. Probably not articulating it very well.

Weaponising sexual assault isn’t a new thing. That’s why it makes this crime so damn horrific.

TooBigForMyBoots · 13/09/2025 15:42

JockTamsonsBairns · 13/09/2025 09:26

Who the fuck pops up on a thread about a sickening attack on an innocent woman of colour, and tries to make it all about the white women and immigration?

Fucking despicable.

Racists.

TheJoyOfWriting · 13/09/2025 16:14

millymollymoomoo · 12/09/2025 21:29

Well it is vile and dusgusting

but why is it not racially aggravated when a black/asian man rapes a white girl /woman?

In some cases it is, see the grooming gangs (tho they did also rape Asian girls incl Muslim girls).

Please can we not have a derail. If you want to start a thread on anti-white racist sexual assault, do that.

TheJoyOfWriting · 13/09/2025 16:16

CuriousKangaroo · 13/09/2025 12:43

Because rape is always about power, not sex. It’s the power and lessening the humanity of women that arouses them. Consider, for example, the use of rape in war. It’s a weapon of power. It’s almost unrelated to sex itself.

Yes. Soldiers have always raped enemy women. During situations like the Serbian war, the Ukranian war now, and many others, rape has been deliberately weaponised.

Watermelonhigh · 13/09/2025 18:24

Utterly despicable crime by disgusting individuals, committed to dehumanise the victim. As people have said, it is all about having power over the victim and making them feel worthless. I hope they find the perpetrators and throw the book at them.

Sexual assaults, including harassment and flashing need to be taken much more seriously by the police to send a clear message and rape conviction rates need to improve.

All of us women of all races need to stand together here to send a strong message and show support and solidarity.

Tesremos82 · 13/09/2025 18:45

bozzabollix · 12/09/2025 21:37

They were actually talking about her being sent ‘home’ whilst attacking her, of course there is a difference.

White British are the majority here, we can’t even begin to say we’re victims of racism.

I disagree wih your comment. My brothers best friend was murdered purely because he was white. They racially abused him as they attacked him. A white school friend was racially abused while being raped. It's not uncommon for white British people to be racially abused.

TY78910 · 13/09/2025 18:52

Tesremos82 · 13/09/2025 18:45

I disagree wih your comment. My brothers best friend was murdered purely because he was white. They racially abused him as they attacked him. A white school friend was racially abused while being raped. It's not uncommon for white British people to be racially abused.

That’s not what the poster was talking about.
it was a response to someone who said why isn’t it labelled as a racist attack when someone of a different race abuses someone white. And the response was that what makes it racially motivated is doing it because of their colour. So in the examples you shared, there was racial motivation. But you can have tonnes of situations where people of differing colours engage in crime against the other person because of a multitude of reasons and race not being one.

Tesremos82 · 13/09/2025 18:59

TY78910 · 13/09/2025 18:52

That’s not what the poster was talking about.
it was a response to someone who said why isn’t it labelled as a racist attack when someone of a different race abuses someone white. And the response was that what makes it racially motivated is doing it because of their colour. So in the examples you shared, there was racial motivation. But you can have tonnes of situations where people of differing colours engage in crime against the other person because of a multitude of reasons and race not being one.

"White British are the majority here, we can’t even begin to say we’re victims of racism."
My response to the above comment is valid.

TheJoyOfWriting · 15/09/2025 05:16

Maltipoo · 13/09/2025 03:58

A false claim. Racist propaganda. Overwhelmingly, rape mostly occurs within the racial group of the offenders, not outside of them.
It's racially motivated in this case because they made racial slurs while doing it. Get a fucking clue and stop posting lies.

Exactly. The Rotherham rapes also seem to have been racially motivated. We can acknowledge they were and alsk that ones like this dreadful case are racially motivated.

Those who want to divide make everything a zero sum game.

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