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Racially aggravated rape and assault

96 replies

ThatRoseBear · 12/09/2025 20:46

Two days ago in Oldbury, West Midlands a British born Sikh woman in her 20s was raped and assaulted around 8.00am just off a busy road. The two suspects were white males who made a comment along the lines of she didn't belong in this country during the attack.
I am heartbroken for this girl, they targeted her based on her skin colour through hate and used sexual and physical violence against her to make their point.

This is in a diverse area that is quite familiar to me. I am absolutely petrified for my teenage kids and have sat them down this evening to discuss safety. They are in their mid to late teens and racism hasn't been something that has particularly effected them. I had it when younger but not much as an adult thankfully. I thought in 2025 we were better than this.

AIBU to think we should have an expectation of safety irrespective of skin colour?

OP posts:
UncertainPerson · 13/09/2025 09:14

Shocked to see the thread go this way. I thought a site where the majority of posters are women would acknowledge how despicable it is to use rape to try to drive non-white women from a place.

Honestly we’ll end up as bad as the US if we go on this way, with polarisation destroying our country.

FlorenceAgainstTheMachine · 13/09/2025 09:16

UncertainPerson · 13/09/2025 09:14

Shocked to see the thread go this way. I thought a site where the majority of posters are women would acknowledge how despicable it is to use rape to try to drive non-white women from a place.

Honestly we’ll end up as bad as the US if we go on this way, with polarisation destroying our country.

Racists don’t care. The whataboutery is obscene.

Batmanisaplaceinturkey · 13/09/2025 09:20

To the 8% (so far) who say YABU, give your heads a flipping wobble.

Simonjt · 13/09/2025 09:21

UncertainPerson · 13/09/2025 09:14

Shocked to see the thread go this way. I thought a site where the majority of posters are women would acknowledge how despicable it is to use rape to try to drive non-white women from a place.

Honestly we’ll end up as bad as the US if we go on this way, with polarisation destroying our country.

A surprising number of people only have a problem with rape and sexual assault if it happens to them or their loved ones, they aren’t particularly bothered when it happens to someone else.

JockTamsonsBairns · 13/09/2025 09:26

Who the fuck pops up on a thread about a sickening attack on an innocent woman of colour, and tries to make it all about the white women and immigration?

Fucking despicable.

TempleOfShrooms · 13/09/2025 09:29

Some posts on here from utter fucking freaks. Racism isn't a competition last time I checked. Seems like certain people just want to be victimised

CuriousKangaroo · 13/09/2025 09:31

millymollymoomoo · 12/09/2025 21:29

Well it is vile and dusgusting

but why is it not racially aggravated when a black/asian man rapes a white girl /woman?

They racially abused her while attacking and raping her. What the hell is wrong with you?

Perhaps you are like Tommy Robinson and his idiot followers who only care about rape and violence against women if the victims are white and the perpetrators aren’t. And as others have pointed out, that actually accounts for a very small proportion of rapes and other VAWG.

Shakeyourbaublesandsmile · 13/09/2025 09:32

I share the same concerns OP

I remain concerned for my DC who are teens in ways I wasn’t a couple of years ago

Stabbings, attacks, openly racist views on Social media, fatalities from speeding cars

I feel like packing up and moving somewhere

Gladysknightjustwalkinmyshoes · 13/09/2025 09:36

CuriousKangaroo · 13/09/2025 09:31

They racially abused her while attacking and raping her. What the hell is wrong with you?

Perhaps you are like Tommy Robinson and his idiot followers who only care about rape and violence against women if the victims are white and the perpetrators aren’t. And as others have pointed out, that actually accounts for a very small proportion of rapes and other VAWG.

They don't care about white women and children either it's just a vehicle to use for their own end's.
The extreme far right have done it for decades.

Shakeyourbaublesandsmile · 13/09/2025 09:39

millymollymoomoo · 12/09/2025 21:29

Well it is vile and dusgusting

but why is it not racially aggravated when a black/asian man rapes a white girl /woman?

I think this was labelled as such because of the comments made to the women which indicated racism

Other sexual assaults may also be racially motivated but not determined as such depending on what was done/said.

CuriousKangaroo · 13/09/2025 09:39

Gladysknightjustwalkinmyshoes · 13/09/2025 09:36

They don't care about white women and children either it's just a vehicle to use for their own end's.
The extreme far right have done it for decades.

I agree. Especially given the high levels of VAWG they commit themselves.

I guess what I didn’t express clearly enough is more that they publicly claim to care about VAWG when the perps are ethnic minorities to justify their hatred and racism.

smallpinecone · 13/09/2025 09:41

Shakeyourbaublesandsmile · 13/09/2025 09:32

I share the same concerns OP

I remain concerned for my DC who are teens in ways I wasn’t a couple of years ago

Stabbings, attacks, openly racist views on Social media, fatalities from speeding cars

I feel like packing up and moving somewhere

The Anglo-sphere as a whole is experiencing the same problems, sadly.

Gladysknightjustwalkinmyshoes · 13/09/2025 11:55

CuriousKangaroo · 13/09/2025 09:39

I agree. Especially given the high levels of VAWG they commit themselves.

I guess what I didn’t express clearly enough is more that they publicly claim to care about VAWG when the perps are ethnic minorities to justify their hatred and racism.

Just read one of the main rabble rousers in Scotland (hotel protests)
Has convictions for abusing two former partners one of whom he grabbed by the neck and threw her down a flight of stairs.
Meanwhile at protests across Scotland talking to women about their safety concerns regarding immigration.

Dweetfidilove · 13/09/2025 12:00

millymollymoomoo · 12/09/2025 21:29

Well it is vile and dusgusting

but why is it not racially aggravated when a black/asian man rapes a white girl /woman?

🤢🤢🤢

Dweetfidilove · 13/09/2025 12:02

I bet they also claim to be protectors of women and girls ☹️.

My heart goes out to her and her loved ones. It's a truly horrific thing to happen.

Gladysknightjustwalkinmyshoes · 13/09/2025 12:03

John Watt convicted abuser of women.
Sorry don't know how to link article Daily Record newspaper.

MrsSkylerWhite · 13/09/2025 12:07

ilovesooty · 12/09/2025 22:12

Who said it wasn't? Can't you just empathise with this woman and what she's suffered?

This. What’s pretty vile and disgusting is that this is what you take from this awful event.

HaveYouActuallyDoneAnyWashingThisWeekMum · 13/09/2025 12:07

I read this yesterday. Very upsetting. I feel for all non white people living in the UK at the moment. The levels of vitriol and violence being expressed have taken “race relations” in the UK back at least a couple of generations.

I hope this poor woman receives all the support she needs.

HaveYouActuallyDoneAnyWashingThisWeekMum · 13/09/2025 12:12

millymollymoomoo · 12/09/2025 21:29

Well it is vile and dusgusting

but why is it not racially aggravated when a black/asian man rapes a white girl /woman?

In one fell swoop you have minimised this woman’s suffering.

What a pointless contribution to this thread. It’s not about non white men sexually abusing white girls and women. Did you actually read the article?

OutsideNetty · 13/09/2025 12:14

Males who will rape a woman will find a reason in their own heads why she was lower than him and therefore a suitable victim: in this case she's racially different, she could be a 'pov' care-leaver no-one cares much about, no better than she should be for wearing 'sexy' clothes, an uppity bitch who disrespected him ... they don't run out of reasons.

A male who will rape a woman isn't motivated by politics.

ILoveWhales · 13/09/2025 12:17

millymollymoomoo · 12/09/2025 21:29

Well it is vile and dusgusting

but why is it not racially aggravated when a black/asian man rapes a white girl /woman?

AIBU to think we should have an expectation of safety irrespective of skin colour?

Yes. But i do wonder why it was acceptable for Pakistani gangs to target white female children to rape and the authorities were too scared to do anything in case the upset the Pakistani rapists.

HaveYouActuallyDoneAnyWashingThisWeekMum · 13/09/2025 12:24

Agree but that’s not the point of this thread. Why don’t you set up a thread about the Rotherham grooming gangs?

ilovesooty · 13/09/2025 12:24

ILoveWhales · 13/09/2025 12:17

AIBU to think we should have an expectation of safety irrespective of skin colour?

Yes. But i do wonder why it was acceptable for Pakistani gangs to target white female children to rape and the authorities were too scared to do anything in case the upset the Pakistani rapists.

Another poster and whataboutery.

TY78910 · 13/09/2025 12:27

Utterly shocking. Disgusting on every level.

It always makes me wonder why (if a race ‘disgusts’ you so much) you would choose to force that person to have sex with you. How does that bring you ‘pleasure’ if you’d never consider yourself striking a relationship with a person from that race, but you’d get aroused at the thought of raping them. Despicable people. I know it’s to ‘show dominance’, but you could do that by beating someone up (which would also be horrific) - I’m just perplexed about the sexual aspect of those attacks. Probably not articulating it very well.

itsgettingweird · 13/09/2025 12:38

It is vile and utterly disgusting.

My heart goes out to that woman and I hope she is getting the right support.

That concerns me as much as over 250 votes and 8% of people think YABU.
WTF is wrong with people Angry