to think that people have the right to smoke without being villified as if they were using cocaine?

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i'm a non smoker. make that a never smoker, apart form one incident when i was 13 and had a huge coughing fit.
i am really really shocked at how people are reacting towards people smoking. it is not the worst thing in the world, and i just feel really uncomfortable athow they are making smokers out to be pariahs.

What the bloody 'ell is a dimp??

Well, maybe, but actually I find it relaxing.

It's only relaxing because you become increasingly tense in between cigarettes though. The enjoyment and relaxation factors are illusory.

THW I do ask people not to hold lit cigarettes in enclosed bus stops right next to my children in their pram. I do it pleasantly, politely, and people generally don't mind. It's only if someone comes into the bus shelter when we are there. If someone is smoking in the bus shelter when I arrive, I don't go in it.

thewilted rose- i guess some posters come on here to vent- i am sure they wouldn't be so rude in rl.
good luck with your appointment, and take giving up one day at a time.
Don't take what these people say to heart

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I don't particularly become tense between cigarettes TBH. I go for hours and hours when I have DS without smoking.

Then, at some point at night, I will have my first smoke of the day, and genuinely feel more relaxed. Mush like I feel when I have the first sip of beer, or wine after a hard shift at work.

If I was pregnant and in a bus queue, and the person next to me lit up a cigarette, I'd ask them politely if they'd mind not doing it.

Can't see why I should lose my place in the queue because someone is inconsiderate enough to smoke near a pregnant person.

And actually, in that situation I would consider the health of an unborn baby to be more important that the nicotine cravings of an adult.

TWR- sorry I live in Manchester, it's the colloquial term for cigarette butt.

Well, it's a reductio ad absurdem, but similar situation - behaviour that causes distress to others.

If I still smoked, I'd do what DSM does, & limit it to designated smoking places & with other smokers. At which point fair enough - if I parked my child's pram under the smoking gazebo of my local & started chuntering about passive smoking I would expect to be told to bog off!

It's about a shift in attitudes - not 'it's OK to smoke anywhere there isn't a "no smoking" sign', but 'it's only OK to smoke in designated smoking areas'.

THW - thank you - nice to know that some people have an open mind here..

God MN can be so full of people who think they know better. Really annoying..

Ahhhh! I have to go to another thread i cant keep reading about fags when i have none and wont until thursday!
I might bump into one of you ladies on another thread so until then!

DSM-I think with these threads a tone is set and they all jump on the bandwagon.
Anyway, it doesn't matter
You do not sound at all stupid to me

TheWoman - with all due respect, standing next to someone for a few minutes - outdoors - who is smoking, is hardly going to affect the health of an unborn baby to any degree.

The fumes of all the cars going past you as you wait for said bus will be doing you both much more harm.

I think it is actually rather precious to suggest you would tell someone to not smoke near you. They are not breaking the law, and if you don't like it it is your problem, so you solve it, move.

Raven- I hope that's not directed at me. I don't take my children to pubs.

Oh hang on just came back so say somethign and saw that...
Whats wrong with taking kids to pubs? I take my 2.

'I don't take my children to pubs.'

Snobbiest comment award goes to Pinky!

That's not snobby-I wouldn't take my 3 to pub

Good point DSM, which is why I wonder how many people here would be in favour of criminalizing smoking.

Incidentally, do you only smoke in the evening DSM?

so true THW

That's right, they're not breaking the law.
Common sense and politeness might have taken a hammering, but no laws broken - phew!!
Interesting that you consider it precious to ask (not tell, ask) them to stop, even though they are ignorant enough to smoke all over me.
And as you consider it is 'hardly' going to affect the unborn baby, I should just suck it up, literally.

I don't think I know better

[annoying]

Ah, heck, enjoy your fags.