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Would you approve of an “rainbow” coalition of progressive parties?

178 replies

SweetBoraeline · 09/09/2025 01:30

Based on current polling, the most likely outcome of a general election would be Reform largest party, but no majority. In those circumstances, would you approve of Labour / Green / Lib Dem / possibly SNP coalition if they had enough seats to reach a majority?

OP posts:
Upstartled · 10/09/2025 11:37

SweetBoraeline · 10/09/2025 11:18

At the last election, those parties
combined won more than 50% of the popular vote. That shows a clear preference for some form of “progressive” party (regardless of how you define “progressive”). On that basis, how can you legitimately maintain that it doesn’t sound like what most people want?

If Labour even gave a nod to getting in bed with the crazy greens to get a majority government, I would switch my vote from Conservative to Reform to keep them out. I wouldn't be the only one.

Everanewbie · 10/09/2025 11:37

HerewardtheSleepy · 10/09/2025 11:30

Totally pointless question. The parties of the left in the UK could never manage it. As a Lib Dem, for example, I trust the Greens about as far as I could throw a full-grown elephant and the Labour/Lib Dem hatred for each other is notorious.

Not even the threat of Nigel in No 10 could overcome that I'm afraid.

Yes, the Greens seem to have morphed from being an environmental party to one that is paradoxically obsessed with LGBQTIA+ and radical Islam.

Wherehasthecatgone · 10/09/2025 11:37

Apart from all of the above, such coalitions are unable to govern. Every piece of legislation/every decision by government is held hostage by every one of the parties wanting their own policies inserted. They all know if they walk away the coalition falls so no matter how extreme their requests the other parties have to include them. Quite quickly saner MPs decide they don’t want to be associated with such a mess.

Glurgle · 10/09/2025 11:42

A "rainbow coalition" sounds lovely OP until you actually mix all those colours together, and get a horrible brown mess that nobody likes.

"Rainbow" coalitions rarely work - because they don't coalesce. Just look at the current messes in France, or Germany.

Ilovemyshed · 10/09/2025 12:17

No because due to our political system, nothing would get through parliament.

JazzyJelly · 10/09/2025 13:37

SweetBoraeline · 10/09/2025 11:18

At the last election, those parties
combined won more than 50% of the popular vote. That shows a clear preference for some form of “progressive” party (regardless of how you define “progressive”). On that basis, how can you legitimately maintain that it doesn’t sound like what most people want?

I will probably hold my nose and vote Labour to keep out Reform in my 'Labour but Reform-leaning' area at the next election (and I say this as an ex Labour Party member). If they make the right choices around women's rights over the next 4 years, I might even gladly vote for them.

If I thought they'd join with the Lib Dems and especially the Greens, I'd spoil my ballot.

Swiftie1878 · 10/09/2025 14:03

SweetBoraeline · 10/09/2025 11:18

At the last election, those parties
combined won more than 50% of the popular vote. That shows a clear preference for some form of “progressive” party (regardless of how you define “progressive”). On that basis, how can you legitimately maintain that it doesn’t sound like what most people want?

Those parties were voted for as individual parties, not a muddy mess.

I think what you really want is proportional representation. This has been put to a referendum before, and summarily rejected.

Verv · 10/09/2025 14:05

I'd take reform over that "rainbow" hellscape.

BrinkWomanship · 10/09/2025 14:21

Hell would freeze over before I’d vote for any of those parties. Their policies would continue to drive this country into the ground. It’d be the worst of all the bad options (and every party currently is a bad option. Poor policies and incompetent people who have no idea how to stimulate our economy.) Shudder.

WhereYouLeftIt · 10/09/2025 15:54

SweetBoraeline · 10/09/2025 11:18

At the last election, those parties
combined won more than 50% of the popular vote. That shows a clear preference for some form of “progressive” party (regardless of how you define “progressive”). On that basis, how can you legitimately maintain that it doesn’t sound like what most people want?

"Clear preference"? We can only vote for the candidates who are actually standing. And sometimes, we don't actually want ANY of them!

We may vote for the 'best' - actually the 'least worst';
or,
we may vote for the candidate we feel has the best chance of keeping the very worst candidate out;
or,
we may vote for the no-hoper in preference to spoiling our ballot paper.

THAT is how I "legitimately maintain that it doesn’t sound like what most people want"! It's called tactical voting.

(Edited for spelling)

ToWhitToWhoo · 10/09/2025 20:39

Oh, the threat of Nigel could overcome anything with many of us! I would vote Tory if it was the only way to keep out Reform, and I am NO fan of the Tories!

ToWhitToWhoo · 10/09/2025 21:10

BunfightBetty · 10/09/2025 00:20

It’s not ‘an issue with trans people’ Hmm

As has been very clearly stated multiple times, it is an issue with women’s rights.

Not quite sure how that has escaped you, as the explanations have been crystal clear.

If it is an issue with women's rights, why would people consider voting for people who are so VERY anti-women's rights as many in Reform?

Farage has claimed that Andrew Tate defends 'male culture', is an “important voice” for the “emasculated”, and has acknowledged him for giving boys “perhaps a bit of confidence at school”

His pal Trump is noted, on a personal level, for boasting of his ability to grab a woman's p*ssy, and on a policy level, for appointing three far-right judges to the Supreme Court, leading to the reversal of Roe v Wade,

Wherehasthecatgone · 10/09/2025 21:14

ToWhitToWhoo · 10/09/2025 21:10

If it is an issue with women's rights, why would people consider voting for people who are so VERY anti-women's rights as many in Reform?

Farage has claimed that Andrew Tate defends 'male culture', is an “important voice” for the “emasculated”, and has acknowledged him for giving boys “perhaps a bit of confidence at school”

His pal Trump is noted, on a personal level, for boasting of his ability to grab a woman's p*ssy, and on a policy level, for appointing three far-right judges to the Supreme Court, leading to the reversal of Roe v Wade,

We aren’t American so I don’t know why you are introducing American politics.

If you cannot identify women in law, because the category includes men, then women have NO women’s rights and there is no data to argue why we need those rights.

BunfightBetty · 10/09/2025 21:22

ToWhitToWhoo · 10/09/2025 21:10

If it is an issue with women's rights, why would people consider voting for people who are so VERY anti-women's rights as many in Reform?

Farage has claimed that Andrew Tate defends 'male culture', is an “important voice” for the “emasculated”, and has acknowledged him for giving boys “perhaps a bit of confidence at school”

His pal Trump is noted, on a personal level, for boasting of his ability to grab a woman's p*ssy, and on a policy level, for appointing three far-right judges to the Supreme Court, leading to the reversal of Roe v Wade,

Who said I’m voting for Reform? I’m not going to.

As I said in my post, I’m a centre-Left voter. Unfortunately, the parties that would naturally be my home decided my rights can be discarded. So they don’t get my vote. I will likely spoil my ballot unless the conditions I mentioned in my post are met. It’s the very least they can do.

ToWhitToWhoo · 10/09/2025 21:23

Wherehasthecatgone · 10/09/2025 21:14

We aren’t American so I don’t know why you are introducing American politics.

If you cannot identify women in law, because the category includes men, then women have NO women’s rights and there is no data to argue why we need those rights.

Because Farage is a mad supporter of Trump. Spends more time in America than in Clacton

Most women's rights abuses consist of EXCLUDING women from universal human rights, and opposing them doesn't require women to be specifically identified as such. There are safeguarding issues that do apply more specifically to women, but I'll believe that this is the Reform types' main concern when they show equal concern about domestic violence, and the two women a week murdered by partners or exes.

AutumnalLight · 10/09/2025 22:30

BunfightBetty · 10/09/2025 21:22

Who said I’m voting for Reform? I’m not going to.

As I said in my post, I’m a centre-Left voter. Unfortunately, the parties that would naturally be my home decided my rights can be discarded. So they don’t get my vote. I will likely spoil my ballot unless the conditions I mentioned in my post are met. It’s the very least they can do.

Then you will let reform in. Spoiling your ballot is a dick move at times like this. (Forgive the penis invocation! 😆)

YorkshireGoldie · 10/09/2025 22:33

No, sounds like a clown show

Wherehasthecatgone · 10/09/2025 22:58

ToWhitToWhoo · 10/09/2025 21:23

Because Farage is a mad supporter of Trump. Spends more time in America than in Clacton

Most women's rights abuses consist of EXCLUDING women from universal human rights, and opposing them doesn't require women to be specifically identified as such. There are safeguarding issues that do apply more specifically to women, but I'll believe that this is the Reform types' main concern when they show equal concern about domestic violence, and the two women a week murdered by partners or exes.

Even if Farage moved to Washington full time, the American Supreme court’s decision that abortion is a state, not federal, matter is irrelevant to the UK.

How do you include women in universal human rights if you cannot identify them as a group? That is itself an abuse. How do you know two women a week are murdered by their partners or exes if you don’t know what a woman is so can’t record this? Or know that women suffer from domestic abuse if there is no data on that?

JazzyJelly · 10/09/2025 23:06

AutumnalLight · 10/09/2025 22:30

Then you will let reform in. Spoiling your ballot is a dick move at times like this. (Forgive the penis invocation! 😆)

Surely that's the fault of the other parties?

Raquelos · 10/09/2025 23:19

Nope, I am very left-wing and 100% will never vote for a party that thinks women's rights are not as important as a small minority of men with special identities.

BunfightBetty · 10/09/2025 23:29

AutumnalLight · 10/09/2025 22:30

Then you will let reform in. Spoiling your ballot is a dick move at times like this. (Forgive the penis invocation! 😆)

You are mistaken. It won’t be me letting Reform in, it will be the misogynistic parties who think women can do without rights if it makes a few men happy.

It is their failure to offer something appealing to vote for, and their failure to govern in the interests of the whole population, not just half of it, that takes votes away from them.

It’s not my responsibility to vote for them even though they want to shit on me. If I were to vote for them, they’d take it as a mandate to continue with their immoral, misogynist policies. It’s their responsibility to offer an appealing (or even palatable) manifesto, such that voters feel they can be voted for.

BunfightBetty · 10/09/2025 23:30

Believe me, spoiling my ballot is the last thing I want to do. I’m furious that nobody wants to represent me and that our so-called democracy is currently so dysfunctional. Yet here we are.

Wherehasthecatgone · 10/09/2025 23:34

JazzyJelly · 10/09/2025 23:06

Surely that's the fault of the other parties?

This

Wherehasthecatgone · 10/09/2025 23:35

If Reform get in then the fault for that lies squarely on Labour’s shoulders.

AutumnalLight · 12/09/2025 12:35

BunfightBetty · 10/09/2025 23:30

Believe me, spoiling my ballot is the last thing I want to do. I’m furious that nobody wants to represent me and that our so-called democracy is currently so dysfunctional. Yet here we are.

Completely understand your feelings… But in practice you are letting Reform in. Your choice….

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