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Would you approve of an “rainbow” coalition of progressive parties?

178 replies

SweetBoraeline · 09/09/2025 01:30

Based on current polling, the most likely outcome of a general election would be Reform largest party, but no majority. In those circumstances, would you approve of Labour / Green / Lib Dem / possibly SNP coalition if they had enough seats to reach a majority?

OP posts:
Jasmin71 · 09/09/2025 10:26

I tend to agree that is the only strategy we may have for preventing reform.

Unfortunately it is practically impossible when the greens want to disarm, and Starmer won't even stop arming Netanyahu. Their foreign policies are night and day , sadly.

BananaPeels · 09/09/2025 10:27

LavenderBlue19 · 09/09/2025 10:22

The OP included Labour in the coalition, and I would say they're not particularly progressive and are very much centre.

My preference would really be the Lib Dems (who are also generally considered centre rather than left), as I think the best thing this country could do is get back into Europe, economically and as protection from the US/Russian threat. The Greens don't have enough MPs or political momentum to make much difference in a coalition.

My main concerns at the moment are the economy and the rise of fascism.

But again, I hear fascism being thrown around like Ping pong balls and yet I consider having a unified country around a strong national identity and culture a pretty moderate view, one that was common up to about 20/30 years ago. Anytime anyone like Reform suggest that it is a good thing we go back to that, we get fascism banded about!

the intense social change of the last 20 years has completely skewed perceptions of political views.

Pigeonpoodle · 09/09/2025 10:36

If Farage is the “devil” and a rainbow coalition of crazy leftist progressives is the “deep-blue sea”…. I’d probably reluctantly go with the “devil”…

Upstartled · 09/09/2025 10:39

The LibDems won't cut it - such is their profile that most people can't even name Ed Davies when shown his picture.

It is interesting to see Labour implement immigration policies that -until a minute ago - were only floated by reform. And while there is push back from the left of the party that has been executed without the whiff of fascism that was levelled at Reform.

My preference is for a Conservative government but, I mean, that isn't going to happen either.

Septemberisthenewyear · 09/09/2025 10:40

Labour is too right wing for me these days.

ntmdino · 09/09/2025 10:40

zaazaazoom · 09/09/2025 07:55

I am sad to say I think they could form a majority with a coaltion with the Tories and the DUP.
It would likely be a very low turn out. And what they will.do for poorer people will be far worse than what they have already done with Brexit. The economy will be ruined unless you are wealthy.

Unlikely - the incumbents get the first crack at forming a government, so the most likely outcome (unless something really catastrophic happens) is a Lab/Lib coalition.

However, the worst-case scenario is that Labour drop to third place, such that we have the Tories and Reform as government and Opposition (or vice-versa); two right-wing parties on the main benches means that each will push the other further and further to the right because they're competing for the exact same voting demographic.

Pigeonpoodle · 09/09/2025 10:46

I think the OP may have misjudged the mood of MN by the responses so far! I expect she was expecting a much more friendly left-leaning set of posts!

People are more and more seeing the virtue-signalling, authoritarian, “progressive” left for what it is, and they don’t like it… They want someone to represent them, not someone who ignores and is antagonistic to them but advocates for every minority at their expense!

BlipTheVoid · 09/09/2025 10:53

Someone said on another thread how they wish they could vote for policies rather than parties. What a great idea, I'd go for that. Being socially right and economically left, it would be perfect for people like me when every single party dictates if you don't like ALL of our policies, then you're a climate denier/immigrant basher/thicko/woke( insert word of choice). Because the reality is, none of us are polled on what we want for this country. Wouldn't true democracy be executed on what the public want and not what them above deem is right?

AnnPerkins · 09/09/2025 10:53

I think absolutely nothing would get done. The coalition would collapse into infighting during the election campaign.

I'm reluctantly sticking with Labour, and just rooting for them to get their shit together.

Everanewbie · 09/09/2025 10:59

It would be horrendous! It would be dominated the awkward coalition between the blue haired brigade and radical Islam, and would be the end of the UK as a prosperous nation.

TonTonMacoute · 09/09/2025 11:00

These parties cannot even agree on some issues within themselves. The thought that they could form a coalition is just fucking hilarious.

They would spend the whole time fighting like rats in a sack.

EasternStandard · 09/09/2025 11:02

ntmdino · 09/09/2025 10:40

Unlikely - the incumbents get the first crack at forming a government, so the most likely outcome (unless something really catastrophic happens) is a Lab/Lib coalition.

However, the worst-case scenario is that Labour drop to third place, such that we have the Tories and Reform as government and Opposition (or vice-versa); two right-wing parties on the main benches means that each will push the other further and further to the right because they're competing for the exact same voting demographic.

Does the party with the most MPs not get to try and form a coalition first? I'm surprised at that. Seems a recipe for disaster.

ProfoundlyPeculiarAndWeird · 09/09/2025 11:02

I'd do it if there was (a) a clear commitment to women's rights and the reality and significance of sex; and (b) a meaningful, moderately detailed commitment to constitutional change, including electoral reform.

Losingtheplot2016 · 09/09/2025 11:03

I’m finding myself less and less progressive as I get older and more small c conservative. Progressiveness is pressed with uncomfortable religious zeal.

Im more worried about housing and jobs for my children these days

PullingOutHair123 · 09/09/2025 11:03

AnnPerkins · 09/09/2025 10:53

I think absolutely nothing would get done. The coalition would collapse into infighting during the election campaign.

I'm reluctantly sticking with Labour, and just rooting for them to get their shit together.

The infighting would be horrendous.

Nothing would be achieved with a coalition that big. They wouldn't agree on anything. Agree the whole thing would collapse and back to an election. And how that would go is anyone's guess.

Here's hoping Labour get their act together...

BlipTheVoid · 09/09/2025 11:11

Losingtheplot2016 · 09/09/2025 11:03

I’m finding myself less and less progressive as I get older and more small c conservative. Progressiveness is pressed with uncomfortable religious zeal.

Im more worried about housing and jobs for my children these days

I agree with this. I was always centre left left politically, until the left became hijacked by bad actors who are pushing their own agenda and the left has fell for it. Religion and politics are a deadly combination ; itscares me and the impact that will have on women's rights. But mostly I'm more concerned with the cost of living and how this country is falling apart at the seams with the overload on public services.

FOJN · 09/09/2025 11:13

lifeturnsonadime · 09/09/2025 09:22

My main concern is preventing Farage getting into No. 10.

'A rainbow coalition of the progressive left' is the fastest way to get Farage in!

What is needed is the for left to become less 'progressive' and more reality based.

Well quite. Can you imagine the likes of Maggie Chapman getting more media attention? People will absolutely vote for Farage over that particular brand of lunacy.

ToWhitToWhoo · 09/09/2025 11:16

I put YANBU as I think that preventing Reform from taking power should be our absolute priority. They would be terrifying even without their obvious links to Trump; with these links, they are even more terrifying. Even a 'grand coalition' including the Tories (or even a Tory government!) would be much better than a Reform government. But it is perhaps a bit U to expect current polls to predict what will happen in 3 or 4 years' time.

ToWhitToWhoo · 09/09/2025 11:21

lifeturnsonadime · 09/09/2025 09:16

a 'rainbow coalition' where women have no sex based rights, huh?

No thanks...

That's not progressive unless you hate women and freedom of thought and speech!

Edited

'a 'rainbow coalition' where women have no sex based rights, huh?'

Unlike a government where we may end up having no rights at all if Reform continue to ape Trump?

lifeturnsonadime · 09/09/2025 11:37

ToWhitToWhoo · 09/09/2025 11:21

'a 'rainbow coalition' where women have no sex based rights, huh?'

Unlike a government where we may end up having no rights at all if Reform continue to ape Trump?

I think you have completely misunderstood my point.

I don't want reform in either.

But the current 'progressive' left is just awful.

No freedom of speech or ideas unless it aligns with the progressive left or you might find yourself escorted off a plane airside for the crime of wanting to protect women's rights.

The left needs to sort itself out wrt to it's obsession with identity politics and purity spirals. However even what happened across the pond doesn't seem to have led to much self reflection.

BlueShiney · 09/09/2025 11:40

Randomlygeneratedname · 09/09/2025 07:26

I just don't believe there is any way reform will actually be the largest party. I think the most likely outcome will be another labour majority but less than last time.

No way will there be a labour majority that’s the one certainty. They’ll be lucky to last the full duration of their current term.

ninjahamster · 09/09/2025 11:41

No. I’m a lifelong Lib Dem supporter and would be horrified if they joined forces with Reform.

JazzyJelly · 09/09/2025 11:54

Nope.

'No self-respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party who ignores her sex' - Susan B. Anthony

LidlAmaretto · 09/09/2025 11:56

TonTonMacoute · 09/09/2025 11:00

These parties cannot even agree on some issues within themselves. The thought that they could form a coalition is just fucking hilarious.

They would spend the whole time fighting like rats in a sack.

Exactly. I can see little difference policy wise but they can't even agree between themselves. They will never be a broad enough church and will do what the Left always do. Disappear down a purity spiral. It's why people keep bringing up the ' People's Front of Judea v the Judean People's Front'. Funny because it's true.

soupycustard · 09/09/2025 12:00

No. Whilst Reform may get a lot of votes, the FPTP constituency system will not allow for enough of their MPs to be voted in to make any substantial inroads into Parliament, unless it was to bolster a large Tory vote, which seems highly unlikely.
Secondly unfortunately, the word 'progressive' is misused for and by the parties listed, all of whom have followed the line that males should be allowed to use female sex-based rights. I will not support parties that try to dismantle the legal structures that support female equality.