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Now the Australians are protesting

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MiddleAgedMusings · 08/09/2025 23:17

Their main target is Indians.
Indians. Who have come legally - not on boats - but on aeroplanes, with the correct visas, who are students seeking further education in order to train as doctors, nurses, or whatever so that they can give back to Australia - Or they are already trained in a profession that the government has outlined has a shortage.

Australia is absolutely solid to get into with specific qualifications or experience being a mandatory requirement and the financial means to support one self. The whole western world constantly puts Australia on a pedestal for not being a soft touch for immigration. How are these protesters questioning the value of this diaspora's contribution to the Australian economy, and how can anybody deny that it's pure racism?

Australia doesn't have a problem luring white British nurses and doctors to their shores with generous repatriation packages, but an Indian nurse or doctor aren't good enough. Australians don't have a problem with their white teenagers or graduates emigrating to western countries for 10 years before fucking off back to Australia when it's time to settle down, but god forbid anybody does it the other way

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/sep/05/melbourne-immigration-migrated-indians-targeted-racist-messaging-asking-why-ntwnfbArticle
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'Is this the same Melbourne I migrated to?' Indians targeted by racist messaging are asking why them

Shock and concern as ‘peace-loving and law-abiding’ community subjected to ‘hateful behaviour’

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/sep/05/melbourne-immigration-migrated-indians-targeted-racist-messaging-asking-why-ntwnfb

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InWalksBarberalla · 09/09/2025 09:35

Nearly50omg · 09/09/2025 08:38

Are you having a laugh???!!! Australia is the most racist country in the world!! Not just racism but discrimination of any disability or difference that makes you stand out in public!

31.5% of Australia's population was born overseas as of June 2024 - so if you are correct that Australia is the most racist country in the world - they either become racist when they moved to Australia (something in the sunlight maybe? Or they were racist in their country of origin too. Or are you only counting white Australians as Australians which makes you pretty damn racists.

Lottie2shoes · 09/09/2025 09:35

To all the posters worried about Muslim no go areas, I am a British Muslim and saw the world change after 9/11 towards Muslim people.
I grew up in a very diverse area and have many, many friends from different races including white British people.
I am thankful that i already had white friends who knew i did not represent the terrorists yet i still saw the difference in attitude from many other people that i came across after.
It made me wary as i saw people treat me (and other muslims) differently and in a more hostile way so i can see why people stick to people they know best or find safest.
Every race and religion have their fair share of racists etc, but i like to think that the majority of people can see past this and hopefully live and work and go past each other in a civilised and friendly way so i do not think most areas are actually no go areas.

JHound · 09/09/2025 09:35

EasternStandard · 09/09/2025 09:10

You clearly haven’t got rid of trying to pass the buck. Time to move on.

It’s pathetic isn’t it. Also so childish. “Anything bad in Australia is nothing to do with us - it’s the fault of a power that has not ruled us in years but anything good is just us but nothing to do with the power that ruled years ago.”

Pathetic! I think they are triggered because Australia likes to pretend it is not like Europeans or Yanks when it comes to racism.

JHound · 09/09/2025 09:36

Lottie2shoes · 09/09/2025 09:35

To all the posters worried about Muslim no go areas, I am a British Muslim and saw the world change after 9/11 towards Muslim people.
I grew up in a very diverse area and have many, many friends from different races including white British people.
I am thankful that i already had white friends who knew i did not represent the terrorists yet i still saw the difference in attitude from many other people that i came across after.
It made me wary as i saw people treat me (and other muslims) differently and in a more hostile way so i can see why people stick to people they know best or find safest.
Every race and religion have their fair share of racists etc, but i like to think that the majority of people can see past this and hopefully live and work and go past each other in a civilised and friendly way so i do not think most areas are actually no go areas.

You’re wasting your breath with the MN Islamophobes.

Lottie2shoes · 09/09/2025 09:38

JHound · 09/09/2025 09:36

You’re wasting your breath with the MN Islamophobes.

Yes true. I know they will never change. They have not changed a thing every time someone has called them out but i would like to think that other posters will not get swayed by their misinformation and actually believe in what they say.

InWalksBarberalla · 09/09/2025 09:39

TallulahBetty · 09/09/2025 08:43

Exactly. Just look at the problems faced by Aboriginal people (who were THERE FIRST!!!)

Yes they were here first - shame the UK came along and wholesale slaughtered so many and set in train the deep seated issues many people are trying to fix. Its not a simple problem - the scars run deep. But the average Australian is no more responsible for these issues than the UK descendants of the UK invaders.

BeanQuisine · 09/09/2025 09:41

EasternStandard · 09/09/2025 09:24

Yes good to have an independent attitude. Keep going with it. Whether Australia has good or bad parts is entirely down to Australians, not the British. Time to really move on.

We have done, thanks.

I wish you the same sort of progress, but the UK opinion polls are looking quite dismal, with Reform still well ahead of the other parties:

Reform still lead in survey

Constituency-level data reveals which parties are most threatened by Reform

National polling masks a hidden truth: people are very undecided about how they’d vote in their own constituency.

https://theconversation.com/constituency-level-data-reveals-which-parties-are-most-threatened-by-reform-264422

pinknailvarnish1 · 09/09/2025 09:43

Me and DH are not long back from a holiday in Australia. Our daughter and husband emigrated there from the UK a few years ago. We stayed in Melbourne and Sydney, and a few places in between (we did a road trip). We did not experience any racism whatsoever. Everyone was so friendly, no matter what race they were, and every place we visited was gorgeous. The weather was amazing, the streets were clean, the bars and restaurants were glorious. Honestly, it felt like Utopia to us. I'd live there in a heart beat. The UK, especially the cities like London & Birmingham are a disgrace by comparison, with rubbish all over the place, graffiti, bins not being emptied, soaring crime rates etc.

EasternStandard · 09/09/2025 09:44

BeanQuisine · 09/09/2025 09:41

We have done, thanks.

I wish you the same sort of progress, but the UK opinion polls are looking quite dismal, with Reform still well ahead of the other parties:

Reform still lead in survey

Your earlier posts suggest otherwise. Whatever you see as not great in Australia really has zero to do with us.

And vice versa, I'm fine with that. Just don't use the British as an excuse for what you don't like atm. It's all with you.

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 09/09/2025 09:48

Not putting aside racism or xenophobia ... most people tolerate / welcome immigration & migration when they themselves feel well off and comfortable. When the majority of people feel hard done by they look at migrants as 'taking' from them...
When people feel like they are paying into a system more than they are getting back... this causes an issue.

JHound · 09/09/2025 09:49

I will admit the pivot to anti Indian/Chinese marches in Oz did take me by surprise especially in Melbourne.

The usual hatred is aimed at the Sudanese community, specifically young Sudanese men. That’s who the targets were of the recent white supremacist demos in Melbourne. The pivot to Indians / Chinese is weird.

OldMcDonaldHadABigMac · 09/09/2025 09:52

HoppingPavlova · 09/09/2025 01:40

@Clonakilla What a pile of shit

Not a pile of shit. That’s lived experience. In Sydney. In 2025 (although the stuff with my kids at school did go back 20 years, but all else is recent).

I lived in Melbourne for 6 years and have a good few examples which could back up your own experiences in Sydney.

Violinist64 · 09/09/2025 09:54

SlieveMiskish · 08/09/2025 23:25

If you want a real laugh, they’re also flying flags at half mast over immigration in Ireland. I mean we Irish people have been emigrating since God knows when. I think the statistic in England is that up to 25% of British people have an Irish ancestry. And as for the Irish Americans, I don’t know how we got them.🙈 We are in Australia too! the Worlds gone daft.

I would have thought that nearer to 70-75% of British people have Irish ancestry somewhere in their genes.

InWalksBarberalla · 09/09/2025 09:55

JHound · 09/09/2025 09:49

I will admit the pivot to anti Indian/Chinese marches in Oz did take me by surprise especially in Melbourne.

The usual hatred is aimed at the Sudanese community, specifically young Sudanese men. That’s who the targets were of the recent white supremacist demos in Melbourne. The pivot to Indians / Chinese is weird.

Agreed - its very, very strange. It in noe way aligns with what I've experienced in Melbourne.

W0tnow · 09/09/2025 09:57

OldMcDonaldHadABigMac · 09/09/2025 09:52

I lived in Melbourne for 6 years and have a good few examples which could back up your own experiences in Sydney.

As a Melbornian I’d love to know where you had these experiences.

BeanQuisine · 09/09/2025 09:58

EasternStandard · 09/09/2025 09:44

Your earlier posts suggest otherwise. Whatever you see as not great in Australia really has zero to do with us.

And vice versa, I'm fine with that. Just don't use the British as an excuse for what you don't like atm. It's all with you.

Don't take it so personally. 😅

Obviously Australian racism was an important aspect of our British heritage, and one which we've largely (but not entirely) outgrown. And doubtless there are a few racist attitudes amongst some of the more recent non-British migrants, but those attitudes too are equally being discouraged.

The same is true of modern Britain - shaking off the common cultural attitudes of the past is an ongoing struggle. I merely suggest that your problems in that regard are clearly somewhat more acute than ours.

EasternStandard · 09/09/2025 10:00

BeanQuisine · 09/09/2025 09:58

Don't take it so personally. 😅

Obviously Australian racism was an important aspect of our British heritage, and one which we've largely (but not entirely) outgrown. And doubtless there are a few racist attitudes amongst some of the more recent non-British migrants, but those attitudes too are equally being discouraged.

The same is true of modern Britain - shaking off the common cultural attitudes of the past is an ongoing struggle. I merely suggest that your problems in that regard are clearly somewhat more acute than ours.

I don’t take it personally at all that’s the point. What you do there has nothing to do with us.

Daygloboo · 09/09/2025 10:01

Summerlilly · 09/09/2025 08:40

What British bashing?

So far this thread is just a bunch of Brit’s slagging off the Aussies
If the Aussies on here defend themselves they are told they are wrong and racist.
”I was in Aus 20 years ago” “or I was there two weeks last year so I know you’re all racist”

Im a Brit living in Aus with my Irish husband. This country is not perfect, but no one should be throwing stones at one another from the other side of world.
If any stones should be thrown it’s at the scum that aligns themselves with the neo nazis.

But Australia is well.known as a racist country and it's quite galling and telling that so many Australians are coming on here saying it isnt. You've got a bloody terrible reputation for your treatment of indigenous people. And its laughable you're on here saying you haven't. What a bloody joke.

Itstwelveoclocksomewhere · 09/09/2025 10:02

SlieveMiskish · 08/09/2025 23:25

If you want a real laugh, they’re also flying flags at half mast over immigration in Ireland. I mean we Irish people have been emigrating since God knows when. I think the statistic in England is that up to 25% of British people have an Irish ancestry. And as for the Irish Americans, I don’t know how we got them.🙈 We are in Australia too! the Worlds gone daft.

I think you are not seeing the difference in legal v illegal immigration.

As for why so many Irish emigrated? Have you forgotten the Irish people’s food was taken from them to export to the UK by resulting in famine like consequences for the Irish population?

VoulezVouz · 09/09/2025 10:03

Dangermoos · 09/09/2025 08:53

Oh please. Now you really are grasping.

As much as I don’t really want to engage with you, this has me intrigued. You actually think there is no variety in liberalism?

JHound · 09/09/2025 10:04

BeanQuisine · 09/09/2025 09:58

Don't take it so personally. 😅

Obviously Australian racism was an important aspect of our British heritage, and one which we've largely (but not entirely) outgrown. And doubtless there are a few racist attitudes amongst some of the more recent non-British migrants, but those attitudes too are equally being discouraged.

The same is true of modern Britain - shaking off the common cultural attitudes of the past is an ongoing struggle. I merely suggest that your problems in that regard are clearly somewhat more acute than ours.

I am not sure they are more acute. I think Australia has a stronger economy and when things are going great it masks racist attitudes.

Personally I found the UK and Oz to be much of a muchness in terms of racism except Australia tries to whitewash / absolve itself by blaming former rulers for current attitudes.

JHound · 09/09/2025 10:06

Itstwelveoclocksomewhere · 09/09/2025 10:02

I think you are not seeing the difference in legal v illegal immigration.

As for why so many Irish emigrated? Have you forgotten the Irish people’s food was taken from them to export to the UK by resulting in famine like consequences for the Irish population?

A lot of the people those Irish people are protesting, and the Indians bring attacked are legal migrants.

InWalksBarberalla · 09/09/2025 10:06

Simonjt · 09/09/2025 06:18

When I was in Australia (two years ago), the word P**i was common place,

The protests seem quite small and not overly widespread, they’re also yet to report competitive rowers or boy scouts.

If you heard that term it was likely coming from one of the million odd UK born people living in Australia who brought it along with them - it's not a traditional Australian slur at all

Itstwelveoclocksomewhere · 09/09/2025 10:13

JHound · 09/09/2025 10:06

A lot of the people those Irish people are protesting, and the Indians bring attacked are legal migrants.

The Indian community are not what the majority are protesting about. The majority are protesting about IPAS centres.

The recent attacks on Indian people are taking place in deprived areas by scumbags. Irish people do not condone these attacks. There is media coverage highlighting them, the Indian community are getting airtime.
These scumbags, very often teenagers, target different people all the time. They attacked a policeman yesterday.

Daygloboo · 09/09/2025 10:15

InWalksBarberalla · 09/09/2025 10:06

If you heard that term it was likely coming from one of the million odd UK born people living in Australia who brought it along with them - it's not a traditional Australian slur at all

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