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Now the Australians are protesting

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MiddleAgedMusings · 08/09/2025 23:17

Their main target is Indians.
Indians. Who have come legally - not on boats - but on aeroplanes, with the correct visas, who are students seeking further education in order to train as doctors, nurses, or whatever so that they can give back to Australia - Or they are already trained in a profession that the government has outlined has a shortage.

Australia is absolutely solid to get into with specific qualifications or experience being a mandatory requirement and the financial means to support one self. The whole western world constantly puts Australia on a pedestal for not being a soft touch for immigration. How are these protesters questioning the value of this diaspora's contribution to the Australian economy, and how can anybody deny that it's pure racism?

Australia doesn't have a problem luring white British nurses and doctors to their shores with generous repatriation packages, but an Indian nurse or doctor aren't good enough. Australians don't have a problem with their white teenagers or graduates emigrating to western countries for 10 years before fucking off back to Australia when it's time to settle down, but god forbid anybody does it the other way

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/sep/05/melbourne-immigration-migrated-indians-targeted-racist-messaging-asking-why-ntwnfbArticle
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'Is this the same Melbourne I migrated to?' Indians targeted by racist messaging are asking why them

Shock and concern as ‘peace-loving and law-abiding’ community subjected to ‘hateful behaviour’

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/sep/05/melbourne-immigration-migrated-indians-targeted-racist-messaging-asking-why-ntwnfb

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EasternStandard · 09/09/2025 11:53

Starlia · 09/09/2025 11:51

Your repetition is boring and reductive.

Sure. It's not nice for you to hear you're part of the problem and it makes you angry, Who cares?

Just take responsibility. It'll be better for you and everyone there.

VoulezVouz · 09/09/2025 11:54

JHound · 09/09/2025 10:43

That only applies to Australians of English descent (and only partially) surely.

No Greek, Italian, Lebanese, Vietnamese etc. Australian was calling themselves “British”.

But I guess my point is when my friend’s son’s school is teaching him that the Stolen Generation was a British policy conducted by Brits it seems WILDLY disingenuous! It’s an odd tactic employed by Aussies to distance themselves from the darker aides of their history.

The practice of removing children from their families occurred from the early decades of the colony. It certainly would have been considered British then. (New South Wales, anyone?) This was a colonial policy that was continued until 1970, sadly. The school is not altogether wrong.

Francestein · 09/09/2025 11:54

Also, the systemic racism right up until the 1960’s was during a period of time when white Aussies carried English passports and referred to the UK as “The Motherland.” Yes, the horrible policies were inhumane, but Australia looked to the Commonwealth for inspiration and education. I’m never, ever going to condone this or justify it (because it’s indefensible), but these atrocities were carried out in the name of the queen.

EasternStandard · 09/09/2025 11:56

InWalksBarberalla · 09/09/2025 11:52

As if i could afford to buy a house in Australia. Doesn't make you argument unless less ignorant.

I'm sure you're living somewhere. I don't mind what you do, just take responsibility for your own actions.

Rosscameasdoody · 09/09/2025 11:56

Starlia · 09/09/2025 11:30

What a disgusting, ignorant thread. The British have done so much damage colonising half the world and you think you have the high moral ground here?

Let’s start with reparations for slavery and black birding.

The British were also instrumental in ending slavery. What reparations would you like to see, given that there is no one left alive who was involved in the slave trade ?

MooseLooseAboutTheHoose · 09/09/2025 11:58

Elbowpatch · 09/09/2025 11:40

The British people donated the equivalent of nearly 60 million pounds in famine relief to Ireland.

Strange actions for a people intent on genocide.

I’d love to see a source for that ridiculous claim of £60m in famine relief.

Robert Peel imported cheap Indian maize and corn that he SOLD, albeit below market price, to the poor and starving Irish, in an apparent effort to curb the starvation. Starvation caused by his government.

There were soup kitchens set up at one stage in 1846 or 1847, for all of about 6 months… the ‘famine’ lasted for nearly 7 years!

The Queen donated a couple thousand pounds of her own enormous wealth, and organised an half hearted, lacklustre call for relief funds that netted about £150k if I recall. No doubt that was purely done as another piece of propaganda to try and demonstrate to the outside world that genocide wasn’t happening in Ireland, when it clearly was.

The ‘efforts’ made by the British to relieve the Irish of the famine THEY caused, are no different to the US and Israeli funded GHF in present day. Pitiful, contrived and completely inadequate.

Where are you getting your figure of £60m???

Elbowpatch · 09/09/2025 12:00

Francestein · 09/09/2025 11:54

Also, the systemic racism right up until the 1960’s was during a period of time when white Aussies carried English passports and referred to the UK as “The Motherland.” Yes, the horrible policies were inhumane, but Australia looked to the Commonwealth for inspiration and education. I’m never, ever going to condone this or justify it (because it’s indefensible), but these atrocities were carried out in the name of the queen.

No Australian, or anybody else, has ever carried an English passport.

Starlia · 09/09/2025 12:01

Rosscameasdoody · 09/09/2025 11:56

The British were also instrumental in ending slavery. What reparations would you like to see, given that there is no one left alive who was involved in the slave trade ?

I suggest you ask the nations who were colonised and now suffer inter generational trauma.

GoldDuster · 09/09/2025 12:01

HoppingPavlova · 09/09/2025 00:03

Australian here, who has close friends who are many different nationalities by birth (including Indian, Chinese) but are Australian, and I fully expect likely all my kids will partner and marry ‘non-white’ Australians, which is absolutely fine.

I’m not protesting but I think you are confused about what is being protested about. It’s not about not wanting non-white people in Australia at all, it’s not about not wanting Indian doctors and nurses in Australia, it’s about not wanting white Australians to be made second class citizens under non-white Australians which is where white Australians now see Australia going.

Here are some personal examples:

Some of my kids were looking to purchase a place, and DH and/or I would go with them to viewings (so experienced this first hand), around a third of places viewed the real estate agent straight up said they refused to sell to them as they were not Indian. They said we didn’t understand but the suburbs we were looking in were only for Indians so they would only sell to Indians. Refused to take offers. One literally threatened us when I joked and said I should get an Indian friend to come to viewings and make offers, indicated lives would be in danger if a white Australian purchased.

In other suburbs kids were looking at, many new build unit blocks. All brochures and sales were in Chinese only for that suburb and the minute you tried to talk to a sales rep ‘No English, Chinese only’ (said in English). All of this nonsense about white Australians not being able to live in certain suburbs means being pushed back from the CBD’s with longer commutes in.

With the place some of my kids ended up in, the Strata committee for the building are trying to hold meetings in a non-English language only. Kids are happy for it to be held in both languages given the majority of residents are native speakers of another language, but that’s not good enough, the committee don’t want English used at all, which means my kids can’t attend meetings or vote.

I was recently refused service at another nationalities restaurant. Went there with friends of that nationality. We sat down, restaurant made it clear to my friends that they didn’t serve white-Australians and didn’t want them in the restaurant. It’s a large restaurant in a CBD suburb. Friends were mortified, had a huge fight with restaurant and we left as they were not going to budge.

None of this is new per se, when my adult kids were at school, there was usually less than 5% white Australian kids there. That was the demographic of the areas we lived in as our preference was to live close to my work (major city hospitals) rather than out in the ‘white’ beach suburbs. The kids at school were fine but many of the parents would tell their kids not to associate with white Australians as they were ‘stupidly and lazy, and will make you get bad grades’ because I guess somehow you catch that??? Not all, I’ve got some great non-white Australian parents who became great friends, but it was the majority. My great hope was those parents would see first hand this was not true and that would stamp this nonsense out but it’s just gone further and further over the years.

That’s the basis of the current protests. Yes, it is about racism I guess, but it’s that white Australians are now sick and tired of the racism being directed at them and that they are being pushed out, and just want the current environment rolled back to an even footing.

The complete lack of awareness in this is absolutely stunning.

Emmeline50 · 09/09/2025 12:04

Elbowpatch · 09/09/2025 12:00

No Australian, or anybody else, has ever carried an English passport.

You are partially correct, because the previous poster stated "English Passports. However Australians carried British passports and were considered British subjects until the implementation of Australian Citizenship in 1949. Australians passports continued to state "British Subjects" until the 1970s

Edit: In fact, it was not until 1984 that Australians ceased to be British subjects.

Winteriscoming80 · 09/09/2025 12:05

Dangermoos · 09/09/2025 09:02

Not formally, no.

There are very large parts of Bradford/sheffield/Birmingham that are Muslim only

StarlightRobot · 09/09/2025 12:05

Very odd that many posters are blaming racism in Australia on British heritage. The ‘White Australia Policy’ was official policy until the 1970s, supported by the Australian electorate.

The UK has had its issues with racism like many other countries, but having travelled extensively and now lived in the UK for almost 20 years I think it’s far less racist than many other countries. Ignorance does exist everywhere.

And as for the apparent legacy of British racism, which country was a world leader in the abolition of the slave trade?

Eloeeze · 09/09/2025 12:06

I wonder what’s going on. Clearly multiculturism is starting to crack. A tipping point has been reached. Are we going to silence the protest and discount it or is there any valid point being made that we are failing to hear?

AlertLimeZebra · 09/09/2025 12:06

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JHound · 09/09/2025 12:07

Francestein · 09/09/2025 11:49

I am going to agree that verbalized racism is getting worse and worse. I don’t put it down to a change in ideology, but the massive increase in population. The cost of living is untenable and people are looking for someone to blame. I live in Brisbane and the population in 1980 was 1,135,000. This year it is predicted to be 2,887,000. Melbourne was 2,839,000 and this year it is approx 5,391,890. We don’t have enough water to sustain this kind of population explosion. We have much less primary industry now than we did then and we rely heavily on imported food and manufactured products. Most of our larger companies have outsourced their customer service to bots or international call centres, we have built Mc Mansions on most of our arable land, cars, etc very expensive to import and we have no Australian manufacturers at all.
People are unhappy and rather than changing the “system”, they are looking to blame anyone else…

I get this but then why highlight Indians / Chinese? Population increase is population increase. There are what - 1m Brits in Oz who are never mentioned in the rants about too many people?

While I completely get concerns about unsustainable population growth but when the protestors focus solely on the part of population growth that is non-white it does raise an eyebrow.

Starlia · 09/09/2025 12:09

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If you are going to quote me, at least be correct. Inter-generational trauma is what it is called, and it’s both sad and pathetic you don’t even know what this is.

cumbriaisbest · 09/09/2025 12:10

SlieveMiskish · 08/09/2025 23:25

If you want a real laugh, they’re also flying flags at half mast over immigration in Ireland. I mean we Irish people have been emigrating since God knows when. I think the statistic in England is that up to 25% of British people have an Irish ancestry. And as for the Irish Americans, I don’t know how we got them.🙈 We are in Australia too! the Worlds gone daft.

It's utter madness. Let's face it, it's about colour.

AlertLimeZebra · 09/09/2025 12:11

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Itstwelveoclocksomewhere · 09/09/2025 12:11

Elbowpatch

Do you even realise that you are writing completely false and ignorant text?

botheredandbewilderedagain · 09/09/2025 12:11

VoulezVouz · 09/09/2025 01:47

Who colonised Australia? Which country imported their criminals and more wealthy settlers? Let’s see … England. It was the British that inflicted these traumas on the indigenous people of Australia.

So is it the British still doing it now?

What about when 9 million Australians voted against giving the indigenous population a voice in Parliament two years ago?

womensagenda.com.au/latest/one-year-on-indigenous-communities-reflect-on-the-failed-voice-to-parliament-referendum/

Starlia · 09/09/2025 12:12

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Oh the irony. My ancestors didn’t colonise or massacre anybody.

AlertLimeZebra · 09/09/2025 12:15

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Eloeeze · 09/09/2025 12:15

Starlia · 09/09/2025 12:09

If you are going to quote me, at least be correct. Inter-generational trauma is what it is called, and it’s both sad and pathetic you don’t even know what this is.

Where do I go to get repaid because my mum had to crouch under the table as a tiny kid while bombs were being dropped all around her by the Germans? Shall I rock up to Berlin and give them a big guilt trip.

Starlia · 09/09/2025 12:16

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You first, babe.

StarlightRobot · 09/09/2025 12:16

@Starlia

I don’t know what your ancestral background is, but:

  • if your ancestors were Australian then is there not a possibility that they themselves were the colonisers?
  • if you are Australian even by a couple of generations then your predecessors would have been part of the deliberate and official policy for a white Australia, an intentionally racist policy to limit non-while immigration

Or maybe is silly and irrational to judge others based on the actions of their ancestors

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