PIP Fraud- now even the DWP staff themselves are it!

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Clifford Redman, 57, claimed he had severe mobility issues and needed daily help - but he was caught out after being filmed going to the gym and on long walks https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2105390/dwp-fraudster-claimed-19k-caught-gym

Tip of the iceberg, serious reform needed.

What you don’t understand why people with ADHD should get PIP? It’s because it can be very disabling and therefore makes life more expensive.

So for example, my friend with ADHD can’t manage public transport because she will do things like impulsively get on the wrong bus or train. She has absolutely no understanding of the passing of time, so will miss buses because she can’t understand that 2 minutes is not long enough to walk to a bus stop that is 500m away. So ends up having to drive and use taxis.

I would expect that most people who have ADHD and no other disabilities won’t get PIP but some will. I also have ADHD and have no trouble with public transport, but I do obviously have big issues with other things.

It's intriguing that benefits advocates, usually so suspicious of government statistics, cling quite as hard, and tenaciously to the 1% PIP fraud rate figure, provided by the government, as they do. I wonder why, almost uniquely, that they accept this figure as gospel. It's all very odd.

This would be same government that couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery, and is looking more and more likely to have driven this country to bankruptcy with increasing prospect of and IMF bailout.

Anyone who trusts these phoney statistics is either naive or wilfully ignorant.

If those children had an equal level of need then they would also be eligible. DLA is based upon care needs over and above a 'typical' child of the same age. Most children with just dyslexia wouldnt meet the criteria because their care needs aren't sufficiently high enough to count.

I wonder this all the time ! Why would anyone believe the dwp on anything?

How do you know there is nothing wrong with them?

I look extremely well but am actually very unwell. I expect there are lots of people who assume there is nothing wrong with me.

However if you really do know that there is nothing wrong with them, please report them for benefit fraud here:

www.gov.uk/report-benefit-fraud

Anyone claiming that the UK is anywhere near needing an IMF bailout is to be taken with a truckload of salt.

I know a few too - a close friend of mine has “fibromyalgia” but is pretty much fine other than the usual aches and pains everyone suffers from, she works full time & always has done. Tells me she spends her extra money on holidays and got a brand new disability car lol… she gets the exact same amount per month as a neighbour who has terminal brain cancer (!) make of that what you will

Ends up having to drive? Ummm like 99% of people then?!?!? Why does she get money off the govt for that?

So hardly anyone gets caught, that makes it worse.

Obviously there are genuine cases and many of them, but everyone must know several people who are “stretching” the truth. I certainly do, relatives, so I know their true circumstances.

Yep, this.

I know someone who uses their PIP for private hydrotherapy sessions. Cue cries of people saying they have to pay to go swimming, so why is the taxpayer funding her to do similar.
Another uses PIP to get a wash and blow dry once a week as she can not wash her own hair. Cries of people saying they can't afford to go to the hairdresser weekly, so why are they paying for her to do so. Imagine being jealous of someone who can't wash their own hair. FFS.
So on and so forth, you get the drift...

But if you are disabled and are seen out and about trying your best, maybe getting some treatment or working on an exercise regime that will help... you get accused of swinging the lead.

I think the issue here with the chap in the article is that he genuinely did improve health wise, and did not report it. However, is there a way to report positive changes to the DWP and have a reassessment? I remember the program that was on BBC about benefit claimants, and one chap said his health had improved and he wanted to come off benefits, but was told he had to wait until he was reassessed.

Why aren't you more bothered about the Bulgarian gang who were convicted of the biggest ever benefits fraud in the DWP, with over £54 million stolen?

Is it only disabled people you hate?

Not having the ability to use public transport is not normal.

I never use public transport - the PP said their friend has to drive rather than use public transport - why does she get money off by he state for that?

Because if she could not have the ability to drive then her life would be very limited.
You choose not to use public transport. She is not choosing to not use it. She can't use it. Big difference.

There is PIP fraud. There is hard evidence of it. There are also people who have had to go to tribunals to win, when they should have been awarded it in the first place. It takes an intelligent service to distinguish the two. Screeching from the rooftops that they’re all scoundrels won’t help, and is also shitty behaviour.

But she does have the ability to drive - so what is the money for?

"so many people", none of whom you challenge or report of course. Excellent. Well do hurry off now to join them, give up your job and report back to us in a few months on how it's going, ok?

It’s just a bit too easy to announce that the figures must be wrong!

And if you’re going to start a thread like this, at least have the title make sense in plain English.

Doesn't matter. She does not have the ability to use public transport and like the other poster said that is not normal.

Benefits need to be MASSIVELY overhauled. There are too many people on them, and they all receive too much. It's the people who work hard to pay for it all that need to be considered, they are the ones being discriminated against.

The fact that you don’t use public transport is your choice. My friend does not have that choice due to her disability.

What I said was ‘In what way can the extra money be used in relation to mental ill-health?’

I DID NOT SAY ‘all you have is mental health’.

You’ve put those words into my mouth (as it were). I do not know why you’re doing this. Why do you insist on misinterpreting what I typed? I’m actually a proper old-school lefty who is a big supporter of the welfare state.

I have no idea what I’d have done with the Personal Independence Payment when I was ‘suicidally depressed’ (with psychosis thrown in) and in the bad years after my inpatient episodes. No idea at all. So I can ask in what way it can be used to help. PIP isn’t a government consolation payment for being ill, is it? If it’s given on some mental health grounds, there must be something positive you can use it for. Yes I know you mentioned therapy. What else?

I would like to talk to people who get too much as I have just enough to live on.
not everyone is on too much at all.