to get really annoyed at people who smoke in playgrounds?

[parachutes]

Why can't they wait until they leave? I just don't understand why you would ever light a cigarette in a childrens playground.
Am I being unreasonable?

Well I hope all you folk who are suggesting DSM quits smoking will be cutting back your car usage!
This is an awful judgy obnoxious thread.
I really am off to work now...

oops, berolina, how did I miss that? I just can't go there!

Ooookay...

I said from my first post that I have never, and would never smoke in a playground. I would never smoke around anyones children.

My further posts have been in relation to findtheriver suggesting that smokers should only smoke inside their own house. Absurd.

I smoke when I am out at night, when I am at work (outside, in smoking area, adults only, and also at night) or in the garden of my detached house far away from anyone else.

Is this really a problem?

we are car-free

(enjoy the thread Vers )

Oh yes - and I will not be quitting, though thanks for the unique suggestion. Hadn't thought about that...

Like I said - I don't drive as I feel it has a horrific impact on the environment and I personally get by fine without a car. But I am not self-righteous and judgey enough to ever think, let alone suggest, anyone else shouldn't.

Fair enough

If you change your mind - Allan Carr. MAGIC I tell you. I read it thinking 'I frigging hate self-help books, & as soon as I get to the end of this one I shall be tearing out the last page & lighting a fag from it'.

Then I got to the last page. & discovered - SHAZAM! - I was a non-smoker. [where's the smug git emoticon on this thing?]

Yeah, I know a few people who have read Alan Carr. Some successful, some not. It won't work unless you want to quit anyway.

However, I am a happy smoker.

I won't be cutting back on my car usage. I don't drive, and can't drive.

Another lot of whiners I see. Get rid of the cars before you talk about pollution. There is a new report out that makes it clear who is poisoning our children.

Not that you'll care. Anti smoking is fashionable like worrying about baby seals was last month. If you can't afford a new handbag get a new cause.

oh I don't have a car, though jesus I need one. But I won't get one unless I am utterly desperate.

Am quite happy to be judehemental about that. And smoking. And anything really. Nowt wrong with being judgemental really. Smokers are hardly innocent victims.

oh toally unreasonable - it is outside for god's sake - how can that possible do any damage to a little one - and no I don't smoke.

'Get rid of the cars before you talk about pollution.'
Hmm... by that logic we'll never bother trying to cut pollution because there's always someone other form of pollution out there...

oh no its okay river, its outside

thusly magic smoke, remember?

Fillyjonk - there is about 5140 trillion tonnes of air I really think it would have to be magic smoke for a cig in a playground to actually effect another person.

yes flashman but there aren't 5149 tril tonnes of air in a playground are there?

or between my kid and the smoker?

I have a funny feeling you a. don't have kids yet

b. are a man

am I wrong?

How common.

(nowt wrong with being a man/prekids btw, i hasten to add. i just want to know if my hunch is true.)

i suppose i could do a search but wheres the fun in that?

Well yes there is 5149 tril tonnes around your kid - it is open air - there are no fixed walls holding the air in place and it is free to move - so i still hold it would need to be magic smoke.

Kid is due in 49 days.

And yes male - but I can't really see why having a y chromosome matters to my view point?

Filly - flashman is right there - the air is not enclosed. Hence the ban being only in enclosed spaces..

yanbu - is a disgusting. not a good example to set in a school playground. Regardless of the fact it is outside.

Now on that point it not being a good example i would find that very hard to argue against.

now totally off topic - i just got 4 of a kind in online poker and am feeling pleased with myself!

but what on earth has the total air in the atmosphere got to do with anything? You are taking into account air above, and in all directions away from the child.

If someone releases ricin or mustard gas or similar right next to you, it really does not matter how much air there is in total in the world, what matters is the concentration of the toxin in the air you are inhaling.

Your point is really that you think that the air the children breathe in does not have sufficient toxins to do them harm. Forest (smokers rights group) would agree with you. ASH (anti smoking group) wouldn't. I agree with ASH myself and anyway am not prepared to take the risk because smokers are too selfish to move away from kids. 10 years ago passive smoking was OK . Now we know it is a major factor in cot death, ENT problems, all sorts of stuff.

lol at me being spot on, congratulation, I bet you feel a little diffrerently in about 50 days though!

ok it is free to move

but doesn't move THAT much

otherwise you couldn't smell it

Filly - I don't think anyone is arguing that you shouldn't smoke in a playground, or indeed near children.

It was the debate about smoking outside in general that this evolved to.