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Why can’t clothes shops sell clothes in sizes in proportion to the population

232 replies

noggla · 06/09/2025 08:39

50% of women are 16-18, so make half the clothes of that size. It makes more sense as Clothes retailers probably get more sales as if make fewer size 8 clothes. As the latter goes in the sale. Same with shoes. Make more 7-8. Also introduce size 9s.

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MrsSkylerWhite · 06/09/2025 12:11

RubySquid · 06/09/2025 12:09

So the option is to wander around naked? Or look like a tramp in a binbag?

Of course not. Plenty of shops stock larger sizes. Point is, normalising being over weight doesn’t help anyone. If obesity continues to rise, the nhs/disability and sickness benefits just won’t be able to cope.

cardibach · 06/09/2025 12:12

AlexandraJJ · 06/09/2025 09:06

It’s the dress and trouser length that I don’t understand. I’m average height but average length clothes are a good 4 inches too long of not more 😩

Half the population will be over average height. Those at or under it can shorten trousers. If they are too short you can’t wear them (and therefore won’t buy them).

RubySquid · 06/09/2025 12:13

MrsSkylerWhite · 06/09/2025 12:11

Of course not. Plenty of shops stock larger sizes. Point is, normalising being over weight doesn’t help anyone. If obesity continues to rise, the nhs/disability and sickness benefits just won’t be able to cope.

But why should someone have less choice simply because they are a bigger dize? A friend of mine is size 24 and struggles to get any nice fairly fitted stuff at a decent price

Yeah there's plenty of large shapeless tops but doesn't seem much rlse

soupyspoon · 06/09/2025 12:14

ThatCyanCat · 06/09/2025 11:58

It is not too difficult for a seamstress to take shoulders in, or waists. I'd suggest finding a local alterations place.

Very few people have the same proportions as the fit model and you only have to look at a mannequin to see the clothes pinned all over the place. The marketing model (not the fit model) will have the clothes pinned all over the place too. This is mass produced stuff.

Well I dont buy them!

Im not spending money on an item and then more money on someone to alter it and when I have needed things taken in, is very very difficult to find reliable alterations in this area, people dont get back to you or they're booked up for months or its very costly, who can be bothered with all that

I dont have this problem when buying clothes in Spain and Italy, the cut there is fantastic. Just bog standard shops too, nothing fancy

MrsSkylerWhite · 06/09/2025 12:16

RubySquid · 06/09/2025 12:13

But why should someone have less choice simply because they are a bigger dize? A friend of mine is size 24 and struggles to get any nice fairly fitted stuff at a decent price

Yeah there's plenty of large shapeless tops but doesn't seem much rlse

Edited

Businesses stock what sells 🤷‍♀️

A very good friend is size 24, shops in M&S for pretty much everything and always looks great.

I can’t afford to but find a lot of its stuff of all sizes in charity shops.

RubySquid · 06/09/2025 12:16

cardibach · 06/09/2025 12:12

Half the population will be over average height. Those at or under it can shorten trousers. If they are too short you can’t wear them (and therefore won’t buy them).

You shouldn't have to be shortening trousers ( often doubling the cost) though . Especially if you are around 5ft6 or 7

ThatCyanCat · 06/09/2025 12:17

MrsSkylerWhite · 06/09/2025 12:11

Of course not. Plenty of shops stock larger sizes. Point is, normalising being over weight doesn’t help anyone. If obesity continues to rise, the nhs/disability and sickness benefits just won’t be able to cope.

I'm ready to be corrected on this one because it's not my remit, but NHS friends tell me that drunk people and drug addicts are a bigger strain on resources than fat people, and much less pleasant to deal with.

cardibach · 06/09/2025 12:19

RubySquid · 06/09/2025 12:16

You shouldn't have to be shortening trousers ( often doubling the cost) though . Especially if you are around 5ft6 or 7

How does shortening trousers double the cost? Can nobody stitch a simple hem anymore? I’m no seamstress, and I would employ one for other alterations (or more likely not buy the item because of the added cost) but hemming?

MidnightMeltdown · 06/09/2025 12:20

I find that when the sales are on it’s always the bigger sizes that are left, so either they are making more clothes in larger sizes, or larger women buy fewer clothes than slimmer women.

Personally, I tend to buy more clothes when I’m a size 8 as opposed to a size 12, as I feel better in them.

RubySquid · 06/09/2025 12:21

cardibach · 06/09/2025 12:19

How does shortening trousers double the cost? Can nobody stitch a simple hem anymore? I’m no seamstress, and I would employ one for other alterations (or more likely not buy the item because of the added cost) but hemming?

Many people can't. I was totally crap at needlework at school and don't think my kids were ever taught it

My daughter was quoted£20 a pair to have trousers taken up. They were a tenner each to buy so obviously a no no

ThatCyanCat · 06/09/2025 12:22

cardibach · 06/09/2025 12:19

How does shortening trousers double the cost? Can nobody stitch a simple hem anymore? I’m no seamstress, and I would employ one for other alterations (or more likely not buy the item because of the added cost) but hemming?

It isn't worth the cost and space of a sewing machine for most people. You can get mini ones but unless things have changed in recent years, they're a bit shit.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 06/09/2025 12:24

cardibach · 06/09/2025 12:19

How does shortening trousers double the cost? Can nobody stitch a simple hem anymore? I’m no seamstress, and I would employ one for other alterations (or more likely not buy the item because of the added cost) but hemming?

No, I can't. I was never taught in school or by my parents.

cardibach · 06/09/2025 12:24

ThatCyanCat · 06/09/2025 12:22

It isn't worth the cost and space of a sewing machine for most people. You can get mini ones but unless things have changed in recent years, they're a bit shit.

I have a sewing machine. I don’t use it for hemming. That is done by hand or the stitching shows through on the right side. I’m also crap at needlework but hemming isn’t rocket science. Don’t think I was ever taught to do it either - it’s just pretty obvious, surely?

soupyspoon · 06/09/2025 12:25

RubySquid · 06/09/2025 12:16

You shouldn't have to be shortening trousers ( often doubling the cost) though . Especially if you are around 5ft6 or 7

Exactly this, Im just under that height so no short at all and trousers are always too long unless I get short petite. And many ranges dont have that.

MrsSkylerWhite · 06/09/2025 12:25

ThatCyanCat · 06/09/2025 12:17

I'm ready to be corrected on this one because it's not my remit, but NHS friends tell me that drunk people and drug addicts are a bigger strain on resources than fat people, and much less pleasant to deal with.

I’m sure they are but adult onset type 2 diabetes figures in the uk are shocking and continue to climb.

cardibach · 06/09/2025 12:26

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 06/09/2025 12:24

No, I can't. I was never taught in school or by my parents.

Neither was I. It’s pretty easy to work out. What do you do if the hem comes down on a pair of trousers? Throw them out?
Honestly, I’m notorious for being crap at anything the slightest bit crafty but a hem is not beyond me.

MrsSkylerWhite · 06/09/2025 12:27

cardibach · 06/09/2025 12:26

Neither was I. It’s pretty easy to work out. What do you do if the hem comes down on a pair of trousers? Throw them out?
Honestly, I’m notorious for being crap at anything the slightest bit crafty but a hem is not beyond me.

Or buy iron on tape, it’s very easy to use.

soupyspoon · 06/09/2025 12:27

cardibach · 06/09/2025 12:19

How does shortening trousers double the cost? Can nobody stitch a simple hem anymore? I’m no seamstress, and I would employ one for other alterations (or more likely not buy the item because of the added cost) but hemming?

Years ago yes, not now with fine motor control gone to pot and poor eyesight.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 06/09/2025 12:29

cardibach · 06/09/2025 12:26

Neither was I. It’s pretty easy to work out. What do you do if the hem comes down on a pair of trousers? Throw them out?
Honestly, I’m notorious for being crap at anything the slightest bit crafty but a hem is not beyond me.

I don't own trousers with hems. Just jeans and leggings.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 06/09/2025 12:29

MrsSkylerWhite · 06/09/2025 12:27

Or buy iron on tape, it’s very easy to use.

I don't own an iron Grin

InveterateWineDrinker · 06/09/2025 12:30

ThatCyanCat · 06/09/2025 12:17

I'm ready to be corrected on this one because it's not my remit, but NHS friends tell me that drunk people and drug addicts are a bigger strain on resources than fat people, and much less pleasant to deal with.

Ex-NHS commissioner here.

Drink and drugs costs are fairly easy to identify when looking at where resource is used in the NHS. The costs of obesity are not. Sure, you can look at weight management services from exercise prescriptions through fat jabs and up to and including bariatric surgery, but the massive - truly fucking massive - costs associated with obesity actually come from where it affects everything else. Diabetes, heart disease, joint replacements, breathing problems, leg ulcers are all things that 1) can flat out be caused by obesity and 2) made much worse by it. Obesity as a co-morbidity in everything else is by far the biggest problem for western future health needs after simple ageing populations.

soupyspoon · 06/09/2025 12:31

cardibach · 06/09/2025 12:26

Neither was I. It’s pretty easy to work out. What do you do if the hem comes down on a pair of trousers? Throw them out?
Honestly, I’m notorious for being crap at anything the slightest bit crafty but a hem is not beyond me.

Well good for you, perhaps you'll be kind enough to give your address and we can all send our hems to you?

What is the point of this self righteous smug type of post, lots of people cant do it, me included. So it is rocket science to us, we need someone else to do it.

DelectableMe · 06/09/2025 12:33

CeciliaDuckiePond · 06/09/2025 08:56

OP, you do realise your thread will be a magnet for people complaining that all clothes nowadays are too big for them?😆

Ah yes, the plethora of size 6-8s who struggle to find decent clothes 😉.
Always.

RubySquid · 06/09/2025 12:33

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 06/09/2025 12:29

I don't own an iron Grin

Me neither

DelectableMe · 06/09/2025 12:34

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 06/09/2025 12:24

No, I can't. I was never taught in school or by my parents.

I wasn't - some great tutorials on YouTube.