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AIBU to think Cromwell

95 replies

Justanotherdramalama · 06/09/2025 04:25

If you were visiting a castle in England and the name Cromwell was mentioned numerous times. Who would automatically come to mind?

OP posts:
Dippythedino · 06/09/2025 07:14

Thomas

Rightandwrong · 06/09/2025 07:14

It was Oliver's name that jumped straight into my mind. Plus a visual picture of Alec Guiness as Charles 1 in the film Cromwell..

nellietheellie75 · 06/09/2025 07:15

Oliver

HarrietBond · 06/09/2025 07:16

Cromwell as a single surname has always meant Oliver. He is a huge figure in British history.

Thomas Cromwell wasn’t all at well known until Wolf Hall (he wasn’t even Henry VIII’s best know minister called Thomas!) so I’d usually expect someone to use both his names talking about him even now.

PaddlingSwan · 06/09/2025 07:17

Oliver. Proof that the UK does not do well as a republic.

LlynTegid · 06/09/2025 07:17

Oliver, unless there was a connection to Henry VIII.

Never sure which one was worse.

Fooshufflewickjbannanapants · 06/09/2025 07:18

Oliver for castles, Thomas for monasteries

TheDandyLion · 06/09/2025 07:18

Oliver. I'm not familiar with a Thomas.

Sparklesandspandexgallore · 06/09/2025 07:22

Oliver

Zonder · 06/09/2025 07:23

Oliver was your castle man.

BMW6 · 06/09/2025 07:27

TheDandyLion · 06/09/2025 07:18

Oliver. I'm not familiar with a Thomas.

Not heard of Thomas Cromwell?

Instrumental in the Bible being printed in English?
Henry VIII's right-hand man?
Engineered Anne Boleyn's demise?
Advanced Protestantism immeasurably?
The Dissolution of the Monasteries?

I presume you are not British?

Thepeopleversuswork · 06/09/2025 07:36

Both. Interesting how split the results are too. Prior to Wolf Hall coming out I would imagine most people would have said Oliver.

Thepeopleversuswork · 06/09/2025 07:37

HarrietBond · 06/09/2025 07:16

Cromwell as a single surname has always meant Oliver. He is a huge figure in British history.

Thomas Cromwell wasn’t all at well known until Wolf Hall (he wasn’t even Henry VIII’s best know minister called Thomas!) so I’d usually expect someone to use both his names talking about him even now.

They were distantly related as well weren’t they? Or did I imagine this…

WooleyMunky · 06/09/2025 07:40

Justanotherdramalama · 06/09/2025 04:25

If you were visiting a castle in England and the name Cromwell was mentioned numerous times. Who would automatically come to mind?

My friends' Staffy...

35pEnergyDrink · 06/09/2025 07:41

CanadianJohn · 06/09/2025 04:53

Oliver... I associate castles with armies and warfare, so Oliver would be my choice. If it was a palace, I'd probably be thinking Thomas.

Same.

Plus Thomas is always referred to as “Crumb” in our house, following Wolf Hall!

CeciliaDuckiePond · 06/09/2025 07:42

It would depend how old the castle was and what its 'headline' historical association was. If it was Henry VIII I'd think Thomas; if it was the Civil War I'd think Oliver.

Toomanywaterbottles · 06/09/2025 07:43

Castles- Cromwell.
Monasteries - Thomas

Gallivant · 06/09/2025 07:46

Richard.

Just to be perverse.

GloryFades · 06/09/2025 07:49

Oliver

Chiefangel · 06/09/2025 07:51

Oliver.
Corfe Castle’s destruction amongst many castles.
And also The Richard Harris film.

Arlanymor · 06/09/2025 07:52

As others have said - castles: Oliver, palaces and monasteries: Thomas. Although there was a Richard - the Welsh soldier known also as Sir Richard Williams…

florizel13 · 06/09/2025 07:53

Thomas....love Tudor history

HarrietBond · 06/09/2025 07:53

BMW6 · 06/09/2025 07:27

Not heard of Thomas Cromwell?

Instrumental in the Bible being printed in English?
Henry VIII's right-hand man?
Engineered Anne Boleyn's demise?
Advanced Protestantism immeasurably?
The Dissolution of the Monasteries?

I presume you are not British?

As someone who got interested in Thomas Cromwell doing A levels in the 90s I can tell you that very few people had heard of him until Hilary Mantel made him famous, despite what he did.

napody · 06/09/2025 07:55

HarrietBond · 06/09/2025 07:16

Cromwell as a single surname has always meant Oliver. He is a huge figure in British history.

Thomas Cromwell wasn’t all at well known until Wolf Hall (he wasn’t even Henry VIII’s best know minister called Thomas!) so I’d usually expect someone to use both his names talking about him even now.

This.

Ilovemyshed · 06/09/2025 07:57

Itsnottheheatitsthehumidity · 06/09/2025 07:12

Novel by Hillary Mantel, and a TV series.

Named after the ancestral home of Jane Seymour which was located in Wiltshire and after which the book was named.

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