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AIBU to think that saying you are "born on the cusp" is total bullshit?

85 replies

Nonoanddefintelyno · 05/09/2025 17:34

In my mind Sep 22 will always be a Virgo, Aug 22 will always be a Leo and Nov 21 will always be a Scorpio. Please comment your birthday if you're on a so called "cusp" and say which sign you feel more like

OP posts:
MasterBeth · 06/09/2025 11:44

TyroleanKnockabout · 05/09/2025 21:32

Just a bit of fun innit.

Well some people do actually believe, then I suppose it’s no less silly than other religions really.

How is it fun?

That's a pretty low bar for fun.

MasterBeth · 06/09/2025 11:45

SerendipityJane · 06/09/2025 11:18

Which house system are you using ? Equal houses ? Placidus ? Whole sign ?

And have you got your location and birthtime accurate to within minutes ?

Slytherin, Hufflepuff, Gryffindor etc.

Newfigtree · 06/09/2025 11:54

it’s something said to elevate oneself above the bog standard.

AgentPidge · 06/09/2025 11:55

fairycupcakes · 06/09/2025 10:34

Born just into Scorpio but by far fit the Libra traits more with just an added bit of spice from the Scorpio influence 😅 I guess that’s the cusp you would be referring to OP!

Funnily enough my DH is exactly the same, and he's far more of a Libra than he is Scorpio. I'd never realised that before.

I've read that the stars align at conception, not birth. But since for most of us this is unknown, horoscopes use birth times and dates, which aren't always 40 weeks from conception, of course. So that would explain the 'few days out'.

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 06/09/2025 11:58

I am “cusp” but I went for a chart once and they picked one sign over the other based on birth time and location

yes I know its bollocks though…

SerendipityJane · 06/09/2025 11:58

It used to be more people knew their starsign than their blood type.

TyroleanKnockabout · 06/09/2025 12:01

MasterBeth · 06/09/2025 11:44

How is it fun?

That's a pretty low bar for fun.

Well I do have a pretty low bar.

Rightandwrong · 06/09/2025 12:02

B1anche · 06/09/2025 11:40

I do, I use it all the time. Not in connection with horoscopes though. I'm now wondering if people secretly think I'm a twat for doing so.

I don't think you are a twat for using it.

It's just never been part of my vocabulary.
Probably a generational thing.

HarrietBond · 06/09/2025 12:03

AgentPidge · 06/09/2025 11:55

Funnily enough my DH is exactly the same, and he's far more of a Libra than he is Scorpio. I'd never realised that before.

I've read that the stars align at conception, not birth. But since for most of us this is unknown, horoscopes use birth times and dates, which aren't always 40 weeks from conception, of course. So that would explain the 'few days out'.

At which point during conception? It’s a multistage process!

Notmyreality · 06/09/2025 12:08

AgentPidge · 06/09/2025 11:55

Funnily enough my DH is exactly the same, and he's far more of a Libra than he is Scorpio. I'd never realised that before.

I've read that the stars align at conception, not birth. But since for most of us this is unknown, horoscopes use birth times and dates, which aren't always 40 weeks from conception, of course. So that would explain the 'few days out'.

Normally I encourage people who read,
but in your case I suggest you stop.

SisterMargaretta · 06/09/2025 12:11

I have a birthdate "on the cusp". I could never find a definitive list of exact dates. Sometimes my birthdate has been listed as one star sign, sometimes as another.

I don't personally believe in any of it so dont care which star sign I am supposed to be, but there are certainly some dates which are not clearly defined as one or the other.

SerendipityJane · 06/09/2025 12:14

Notmyreality · 06/09/2025 12:08

Normally I encourage people who read,
but in your case I suggest you stop.

Why ? There is a whole world of woo out there. Houses, aspects, ascendants. The role of the outer planets (which had to be shoehorned into the millennia old science after they were discovered).

Then there's horary for getting stolen fish back.

Worse ways to spend wet weekends in the 70s.

Notmyreality · 06/09/2025 12:16

SerendipityJane · 06/09/2025 12:14

Why ? There is a whole world of woo out there. Houses, aspects, ascendants. The role of the outer planets (which had to be shoehorned into the millennia old science after they were discovered).

Then there's horary for getting stolen fish back.

Worse ways to spend wet weekends in the 70s.

So a whole make believe world of absolutely nothing?

SerendipityJane · 06/09/2025 12:24

Notmyreality · 06/09/2025 12:16

So a whole make believe world of absolutely nothing?

Oh, no. It has it's uses. Just not what people would usually think. Learning is never wasted.

LilyCandelabra · 06/09/2025 13:16

Hoppinggreen · 05/09/2025 18:46

I think that Horoscopes are pretty much bollocks BUT when I was at school one Christmas one of our group bought the rest of us horoscope books and I read the one that was supposed to describe me and it was not like me at all.
Then I read the book aimed at the sign I missed by a matter of days and it was a LOT like me!

This is interesting to me as the only way I can see that horoscopes could actually be a thing would be if the position of the planets somehow affected a baby's developing brain in utero (magnetic fields or something 🤔). You would then have babies born early or late who had more traits of the preceding or next sign.

PiggyPigalle · 06/09/2025 13:29

I was born on the cusp. Glad I don't believe in such things as my mother couldn't remember when I was born. She knew it was 12 o'clock, but not whether noon or night! She was the best mum ever by the way.

WonderfulSmith · 06/09/2025 13:36

Did you know that the trend for having a daily horoscope in the newspaper started when Princess Margaret was born? The papers had to fill pages and there really wasn’t much to say, so one paper had her horoscope done. People loved it so they started running daily horoscopes as a regular feature.

Back when people read newspapers everyone knew their star sign, I wonder if younger people do now.

CaptainMyCaptain · 06/09/2025 13:45

FourEyesGood · 05/09/2025 17:35

It’s all bollocks.

This. No further comment required.

Sprogonthetyne · 06/09/2025 13:52

Well it's all bollocks really, but I do know someone's who is born on the 22nd, and makes a point of pointing out that they're on the cusp literally every time. So instead of having to sit through the bollocks of one horoscope read out, I'm stuck listening to them read out two, then discuss at length which bits of both might apply to them.

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 06/09/2025 14:02

I’m “on the cusp”. As a child I was always listed as the later star sign, but at some point it changed by a day so then I was the classed as being in the earlier star sign. A couple of years ago I came across something that had my birthday listed in the later star sign again so thought it was going to change back but I haven’t seen anything else since. I was born at 1am so I was only ever just the later star sign even when I was supposedly in that group. I believe the stars have actually moved since it was first worked out so we’re all using the wrong dates anyway. I also believe it’s complete nonsense. You can find plenty of traits to convince yourself you fit any of them.

AgentPidge · 06/09/2025 14:14

SisterMargaretta · 06/09/2025 12:11

I have a birthdate "on the cusp". I could never find a definitive list of exact dates. Sometimes my birthdate has been listed as one star sign, sometimes as another.

I don't personally believe in any of it so dont care which star sign I am supposed to be, but there are certainly some dates which are not clearly defined as one or the other.

If you knew your exact time of birth you could look it up. Astrologers have charts with this stuff but it's bound to be on the net somewhere. Then you'd know for sure, if you were interested.

I understand that in Scotland they have the time of birth on the birth certificate and in England if you're a twin, triplet etc.

HurdyGurdy19 · 06/09/2025 14:20

Apparently I'm on the cusp. I have no idea of the qualities of either of the star signs, so I have no clue which one I am more aligned with.

gandeysflipflop · 06/09/2025 15:06

SerendipityJane · 06/09/2025 11:33

It's 2025. If you want to read a load of cobblers just ask Google anything.

True

TunnocksOrDeath · 06/09/2025 15:36

Horoscopes are nonsense. But "cusp" literally means the edge or transition point. Since the earth travels round the sun an extra quarter of a day every year, the sun may not actually have risen in the 'right' constellation on the day of your birth if you were born around the cusp which is why 'professional' astrollogers need to know the date, local time and location of your birth for a chart, so that they can swindle you accurately.

YourSpleenIsDamp · 06/09/2025 15:58

I don't believe in astrology. I'm a Sagittarius: we're very sceptical.