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AIBU to think this disciplinary is unfair?

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GucciTennisShoesRunninFromYourIssues · 04/09/2025 09:45

Hi all,

I'll try to keep this brief and stick to facts while keeping anonymous.
I have been at a company for 12 years. Never had a single bad word against me up until a week ago I was told I would be in an 'informal catch up' the next day due to lateness.
the informal catch up the next day was anything but that. I was told that I was possibly facing a disciplinary. I had no time to prepare, no examples of the lateness until the disciplinary. I got told days and times in the disciplinary but due to not being able to prepare I had no explanation. I did say there would be no unexplained lateness as I've never done that so I knew there's be a reason but as I had no examples of times I wanted to stick to facts.
I have been having IT issues which have been reported and tickets logged but nothing has been done.

I went away, videoed the IT problems which transpire that is causing the log in time to be later than I actually am logging in. I received the minutes back from the meeting and refused to sign them as they missed out crucial parts. For example, me telling them (that they know of) the IT issues that they are already aware of.
since then, I went away and was able to marry up log in times with IT issues on certain days (which they were also aware of) and have video evidence of this as well as internal call listener to, to IT.

I have offered and said I'd like to show my evidence now in the second meeting we had the other day. Not once have they viewed my evidence but are still 'discussing the chance of disciplinary.'
at no point did I receive a warning of this happening. Not once was I offered a witness. Should you be offered a disciplinary in the meetings leading up to the disciplinary?

the whole thing stinks quite frankly. I am looking to leave anyway. There have been many people who have disciplinaries in the last few months.

do I stand anywhere with this? I'm worried sick. I'm a single parent and actively seeking and interviewing for other jobs.

HR and my manager was in the meeting.

I have made them aware of every IT issue every single time. This seems desperately unfair. AIBU?

OP posts:
Jackiebrambles · 09/09/2025 12:36

What shameless bastards they are. Sending you support, make sure you get all you are entitled to in this redundancy, do not trust them!

LittleBitofBread · 09/09/2025 12:36

123ZYX · 09/09/2025 10:19

Has a proper redundancy process been followed? You can only be made redundant if your role doesn’t exist any more. This could be in doubt if, for example, other people in substantially the same role haven’t been considered for redundancy or if they’re advertising for someone to take on the role that you’ve been made redundant from

Yep, make sure they're doing it properly (as they didn't do it properly when they tried to give you this 'disciplinary', I wouldn't trust them further than I could throw them in any legal/employment matters).

Abitofalark · 10/09/2025 16:00

It looks as if it is a company in trouble and trying to shed staff. They took away the two projects from you - how convenient, so that they could then say your post was redundant. Very dodgy company trying to find some pretext to mount a disciplinary and suddenly it's redundancy after all, perhaps because you showed signs of being savvy enough to challenge allegations and 'disciplinary' processes.

It's worth checking whether they've selected fairly for redundancy and whether they've offered you the correct redundancy payments and notices - check your contractual terms and conditions laid out in any documents or staff manuals and also your statutory rights to redundancy payments - ACAS can help with this so phone them if you need information or advice. Also check out their website.

GlosGirl82 · 10/09/2025 21:32

Speak to ACAS - free employment legal advice. This sounds like they are trying to get rid of your job without having to pay redundancy

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 11/09/2025 07:45

Three parts to a dIsciplinary process ...

  1. Investigation (which must be full and fair).
  2. Investigation hearing
  3. Appeal hearing (if you appeal).

Looks like what you've had is informal - management can talk with you about any issues informally - stops it going straight to disciplinary when not needed.
If youve got the evidence try not to worry about it. Perhaps email them tge evidence so you have a trail - print it off and take it home.
Sounds like your management could get jobs at the post office!

HisNibs · 11/09/2025 09:06

Make sure you get the correct redundancy pay OP - https://www.gov.uk/calculate-your-redundancy-pay

12 weeks if you've been there over 12 years.

Do you need a reference from them because if not and they haven't followed the redundancy process correctly (which I seriously doubt they have), you can also take them to a tribunal for unfair dismissal. ACAS can be helpful but I found when it happened to me many moons ago that they were more pro-employer.

Calculate your statutory redundancy pay

Calculate how much statutory redundancy you can get based on age, weekly pay and number of years in the job

https://www.gov.uk/calculate-your-redundancy-pay

GucciTennisShoesRunninFromYourIssues · 11/09/2025 09:25

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 11/09/2025 07:45

Three parts to a dIsciplinary process ...

  1. Investigation (which must be full and fair).
  2. Investigation hearing
  3. Appeal hearing (if you appeal).

Looks like what you've had is informal - management can talk with you about any issues informally - stops it going straight to disciplinary when not needed.
If youve got the evidence try not to worry about it. Perhaps email them tge evidence so you have a trail - print it off and take it home.
Sounds like your management could get jobs at the post office!

They've since dropped the disciplinary, taken 2 of my protects away and made me redundant

OP posts:
LittleBitofBread · 11/09/2025 09:38

GucciTennisShoesRunninFromYourIssues · 11/09/2025 09:25

They've since dropped the disciplinary, taken 2 of my protects away and made me redundant

As people have been suggesting, have you looked into whether they’ve followed the redundancy process properly?

tanstaafl · 11/09/2025 09:45

Are you working your notice ( at home maybe ) OP?

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