Shady Shae somewhat undermines antifas anti-Tommy Robinson message

[JamieCannister]

Does anyone else know Shady Shae on social media? He seems to be a London-based, Nigerian-born youtuber. He seems to believe that immigrants should integrate with and celebrate the countries that they come to.

Anyway, the point. Around 22nd August give or take he posted a video on youtube called "Black Man Took the St George’s Cross to a Protest… What Happened SHOCKED Me!" He has posted plenty of similar videos before.

AIBU to ask those people who regard antifa-types as heroes fighting the fascism and racism of Tommy Robinson and the "hard left" to watch the video above and tell me what evidence of racism and fascism was on show? AIBU to say that there it is hard to see a crowd as racist when it is showing massive levels of love to a black Nigerian?

100%.

And your point of view is 100% backed up by the video(s) of Shady Shae (a black Nigerian who lives in the UK) being shown massive amounts of love by Tommy Robinson, and all sorts of TR supporters, young and old, black and white, male and female.

It's almost like when TR says things like "I don't care about someone's skin colour, I care about British values like free speech, democracy and hatred of paedophilia" [that is not his words, it is the sort of thing I believe he would agree with] he means what he says, and it's not code for "I hate everyone who isn't white british"

What an obnoxious response to a polite post complete with pre-apology. I’ll ignore you from now on.

Yes this country IS built on migration: migrants like the Windrush generation - hundreds of thousands of people of colour who came to Britain in the 50s and 60s, worked hard and adopted British values and customs and made this country their home.
There will always be idiot racists - and there certainly was at the time. But the vast, VAST majority of people in 2025 would - and indeed do - welcome THIS kind of migration in a heartbeat.

The rewriting of history surrounding how the Windrush generation were treated and spoken about (and in many regards, still are) is really quite astonishing.

I wonder if 50/60 years from now we will see the same historical revisionism regarding current attitudes to immigrants and asylum seekers.

Cool. 👍

Have you got the video so I can see for myself?

When was the video filmed?

Ages ago, he must have hit the headlines for something and just out of curiosity I watched him address the Oxford Union. It was really interesting and I came to understanding a little of why he is so outspoken. He spoke very well, especially if you listen without prejudice.

The video is linked in the article.

Where in the article, I cannot see it?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8410133/tommy-robinson-drugs-racist-slur-rant/

Tommy Robinson is a racist.

I cannot see it

There's a joke in there somewhere.

And to the earlier point about the word P4ki. It has been offensive for as long as Tommy has been alive. It can't be news to anyone.

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Hes a racist grifter with a coke habit funded by his racist following. hyper vigilant? No, off his tit's. Tommy Robinson is not typical of the working class.🙄

Most of us are grafters, not grifters. Few of us can afford a coke habit or to move to massive villa in Spain following Brexit. Most of us live in the UK.

Most of us are not racist.

With regard to the BNP membership, he says he signed up online but didn’t renew membership as it was a white people only party. I think he said this on Triggernometry. That interview and their thoughts after (they did a separate video) are worth checking out.

Narinder is the worst.

Exactly. I’ve heard Indian people also use this term about Pakistanis. Sometimes in a derogatory way (considering their history) and sometimes just because they’ve heard other people shorten the term “Pakistani.” There’s also a word people used for the Chinese, regardless of the demographic they were from. I don’t advocate for being lazy with language but racism doesn’t always exist all the time.

OP you lost me at: I would also note that it is perfectly possible to say a racist thing and not be a racist.

Wow.

The additional joke for those who insist it’s not racist it’s just how “working class” people refer to Pakistani owned shops….the shop is almost never Pakistani owned.
It’s invariably a Sikh owner but I guess they all look like.

It’s always racist. At best people don’t care they’re being racist.

Saying "P*s are all smelly and thick" is racist.

Using the word "p*" in a mixed race group that includes pakistanis and where people of all races use the word is not in itself racist. HTH.

I bet you anything TR has more black and asian mates than the average middle class white person who slags him off.

So the best you have is a very old - seemingly heavily edited (maybe by TR, maybe by someone else) video where a young man gets wasted and uses the word P* once or twice.

I will repeat. I do not use that word. It has racist connotations. I do not for one second believe using it once whilst wasted makes someone a racist. I believe that the people like you are much more bigoted in your snobby woke anti-working class way, than a WC person is racist simply for using that word.

If there is one thing I am certain of it's this - if the people on this thread who claim TR is a racist want to avoid people like TR, or people they perceive as even more racist than TR, gaining power, then they need to consider how to change their behaviour from the virtue signalling, limited evidence patronizing nonsense on display here.

Back to the original video - are you seriously telling me that crowd of mainly white people loving a black nigerian are all racist?

There was a time when a TR thread would be absolutely swarmed with 100s of posters competitively expressing their disgust at him. Interesting to me that this thread, is relatively quiet. Suggests to me that that many people are waking up to the issues he pushes back on and while they’re not quite prepared to go so far as to actively defend him, they’re quietly looking on/sitting on the fence.

Did you mean to tag me in this post?

Or, they can't be arsed anymore.🤷‍♀️

No rewriting of history - if you actually read my post, I clearly state that, yes, I'm fully aware there will always be racists. There was then and there is now.

However, there has also always been a majority who've welcomed - both then and now - those who are happy to work hard and integrate. Whatever the colour of their skin.

Nope. Definitely think it's the former. People are now more attuned to media manipulation and are more willing to judge watch, listen and decide for themselves.

This is evident from the comments under that Triggernometry interview. Take a look.

I am trying to remember when I first heard of him and what I thought.

As a lifelong leftie who has been amongst tens of thousands on the streets of Brixton protesting against racism, and has never so much voted tory in my life, I am sure my first knowledge of him would have been extremely negative coverage in the MSM.

I definitely watched "When Tommy Met Mo" in 2013/14... why did I do that? I can't imagine it was to see how much of a racist he was, and I definitely wasn't a supporter of his back then, so it must have been a curiousity based in part from a realization that the mainstream narrative was "simplistic" at best.

I definitely wasn't a supporter of his 5 years ago either.

I am not really a supporter of TR now - but I do think that he is spot on with regards a lot of things (including a hatred of Farage - I agree 100% with TR on that one), and I think that anyone who just parrots "racist" accusations at him is a dishonest hard left ideologue, or a naive fool who has not yet realized that you need to look at a wide variety of sources, and treat them critically, if you don't want your opinions to be nonsense you've been force fed.