Shady Shae somewhat undermines antifas anti-Tommy Robinson message

[JamieCannister]

Does anyone else know Shady Shae on social media? He seems to be a London-based, Nigerian-born youtuber. He seems to believe that immigrants should integrate with and celebrate the countries that they come to.

Anyway, the point. Around 22nd August give or take he posted a video on youtube called "Black Man Took the St George’s Cross to a Protest… What Happened SHOCKED Me!" He has posted plenty of similar videos before.

AIBU to ask those people who regard antifa-types as heroes fighting the fascism and racism of Tommy Robinson and the "hard left" to watch the video above and tell me what evidence of racism and fascism was on show? AIBU to say that there it is hard to see a crowd as racist when it is showing massive levels of love to a black Nigerian?

It's not just white people who can be racist. I think that's a fact most people overlook. Dianne Abbot for one. That disgusting Narinda Kaur to name but two. And other cultures/races who are dead against their families marrying another other than their own race.

You have absolutely every right not to be interested in him.

On the other hand - as someone who hates racism and hates the thought of even more national disunity - I believe that I need to listen to people like Farage and TR because they have massive support, and their popularity has only risen whilst they have been ignored and or demonized by the mainstream media. I believe that listening to the concerns of ordinary people, especially if they are majority views, is essential, otherwise we risk the genuine hard right or corrupt grifters like Farage gaining power.

He’s not “Far Right” and he’s not “Racist”.

What he is, is “Working Class” to the absolute core, with several mistakes made, in his youth, as he found his political feet, so to speak. He did a lot of stupid shit, as many working class people do, without the strong guard rails and increased opportunities & social/cultural capital provided by being born into the middle classes.

Anyone who bothers to listen to him long form can see that his heart is in the right place and he has been utterly demonised. Is he perfect? No. He’s overly aggressive at times, but then he’s probably also living in a state of constant hyper vigilance which prompts reactive behaviours. He should probably get some therapy.

But make no mistake, TR’s or SYL’s, if you prefer, main crime is being born working class and being unapologetic about it.

Can I just check another thing? If being racist is racist, and hanging out with peopel with other skin colours is what racists do so as not to appear racist, how can I be sure that every single person on the planet isn't racist?

This.

LOL!

Yes the “context” that makes referring to somebody as “P*ki” ok.

😆😆😆

And what is with this weird classism that constantly posits that casual racism is simply part and parcel of being working class while only
the middle classes can be expected to know better.

It’s a curious aspect of the British class system
where pretend to be working class defenders while condescending and patronising them.

Holy Classism Batman.

That is my view.

"Anyone who bothers to listen to him long form can see that his heart is in the right place and he has been utterly demonised."

100%.

Is he perfect? Do I agree with him on everything? No, no. Of course not.

This. The real test is if he moved in next door to them, or married their daughter. Carrying a flag like a useful idiot isn’t a sign of anything.

Lovely.

You do you and I will continue to shun things I have no interest in.

Have you ever listened to him speak? Apologies if you already answered this question.

Denying class is classist, just like denying what a woman is is sexist.

You cannot protect the rights of the WC, or women, unless you define them and understand them. HTH

I'm surprised that it took a whole six hours before we got to the "...but what exactly does racism even mean?" stage. You're slipping lads. Usually you're there in three hours or less. Tommeh Ten-Names will be disappointed in you. No coke for you today!

Holy Classism Batman

Nothing classist about what I posted anyway. I am as working class as they come.

lol

In fairness, the term P%&i is nothing more than a shortened version of Pakistani. Which is no different from calling someone Indian. It's seen as racist now and rightly so because of how it has been used and the negative connotations it holds.

What part of “I have no interest in….” are people struggling with.

Have I heard his voice? Yes. Several times. And I have no interest in him.

🙄.

The left do prefer an echo chamber

“The Left”

Why are you on a thread about him? Or are you lying whan you say you're not interested?

I think you watch too many cartoons.

The thread is not about Konstantin Kisin.

I believe he is a proud Brit who is happy with whoever is here so long as they share what he sees as british values.

I suspect this has long been the issue OP. Fact is, this whole debate has very little to do with race and everything to do with culture.

Those who keep bleating on about 'this country is built on migration' when referring to people's objections to the uncontrolled, undocumented individuals currently coming to this country, are completely missing the point.

Yes this country IS built on migration: migrants like the Windrush generation - hundreds of thousands of people of colour who came to Britain in the 50s and 60s, worked hard and adopted British values and customs and made this country their home.
There will always be idiot racists - and there certainly was at the time. But the vast, VAST majority of people in 2025 would - and indeed do - welcome THIS kind of migration in a heartbeat.

However, modern UK immigration doesn't look like this. Once we switch the conversation from immigration to INTEGRATION we might actually get somewhere.

https://theweek.com/99588/tommy-robinson-uses-racial-slurs-and-boasts-about-drug-use-in-bizarre-video

He’s racist.