Should teenagers stand to being criminalized over how some of them treat their partners.

[celebritydiscodave]

I ask this because the very vast majority of incidents of abuse are served out by their partners, and the very vast majority of partners are either teenagers too, or within five years.

If they commit a crime, then yes.

What do you mean. Do you think teenagers regularly get away with crime just because they are teenagers. Abuse is a crime, regardless of age. And what do you mean by "or within 5 years"? You mean 24 year olds? Why do you think they get special treatment?

Can you point to any statistics/articles setting this out? While younger people are disproportionately more likely to be convicted of crimes for a number of reasons, I'm a bit doubtful.

I’m not sure what you mean? Have you a specific example you’re thinking of?

Huh?

The law already does define domestic abuse that includes anyone ages 16 and over

Not sure what the OP really means but if someone has committed a crime, be that abuse, physical or mental - they should receive the appropriate punishment for that crime. It doesn't matter how old they are - age doesn't come into it.

Also don't understand where you got the data from for the vast majority claims? All very confusing OP!

Huh? Where do you get the info from that the ' very vast majority' of abusers are teenagers? And what are you talking about here in terms of age because teens plus 5 years covers 13 to 23 years old. I wouldn't necessarily expect people at either end of that age range to face the same consequences?

Does op mean vast majority of abusive partner will start this ad a teenage partner? 🤔bad in they've always been abusive and it could be caught early in teens?

Of course they bloody should. The current younger generation seems to be very fond of calling out others who have, in their eyes, done wrong in the past, so it's not like they don't have a moral compass that they should stick to.
If they abuse their partner, they absolutely should be dealt with by the law.
There's never any excuse for being abusive towards anybody, your partner included.
Do you think they shouldn't be criminalised then?

OP, do you mean that a lot of teenage relationships seem to have an element of control/abuse in them? I know what you mean, in that some teenagers do seem (to us adults) to behave very badly towards their 'loved one' , but part of this is learning how to behave towards someone they are in a romantic relationship with. So neither family nor friend, but something else, so they can overstep the mark frequently.

I don't think it's criminal, but it is part of a learning curve and they should be called out if they behave badly. Hopefully the younger generation is learning how to be assertive, set boundaries and not take any shit, but love can wipe out all this learning so sometimes it needs others to point out inequalities for them to start to learn how relationships should go.

Depends on the treatment?

Can you be a bit clearer please?

Um... I'm afraid your post isn't very clear to me.

I think it's fair to say that any incident of domestic abuse is typically carried out by the victim's partner regardless of what age they are; teenage, thirties, eighties. And typically a person's partner will be within a similar age range.

Any person who is abusive, either physically or emotionally, needs to be held to account and the appropriate punishment meted out. Age is irrelevant.

In the UK the police tend to turn a blind eye to most relationship based offences should the younger partner be a teenager, and the older partner be within five years - They dont want to criminalize children. Of course though, those that offend outside of this five year discretionary disparity had been inside of it earlier. Once older they may or may not have mellowed by character, but the majority of folk do in fact somewhat mellow with the passage of time, albeit very slowly. Forced intimacy is reported as common among teenagers. Other social groups are obviously a problem, but the main problem, and for all ages, is relationship partners. Whilst it is important for parents to be aware of the goings on of other persons, stepfathers, stepbrothers, and a mothers boyfriend especially, do you consider that their actual peer group, where likely ninety percent of it is going on, is afforded enough focus? If you don`t stop them in their teens how on earth can you expect to stop them later, and yes, some of them will be attracted younger.

Nope, still baffled OP 🤔

Im not entirely clear but I think the op is about sexual activity between teenagers and whether that should be criminalised.

Where are you getting your information? And is it sexual offending or domestic more generally? The primary age for domestic abuse is 16-24 and I understand that they are probably less prosecuted than those older, but really it’s all about education and awareness more than anything. Of course if someone is abusive they should be held accountable. The age of criminal responsibility is 10.

"R" is supposed to be a crime, but from my understanding of the current situation in the UK, teen boyfriends, or within five years of the girl`s age, forcing their teen girlfriend is treated as being a non - incident by the police, and that the boyfriend on denying it is believed by most parents.

Those at sixteen that are attracted to thirteen year old, or younger, should perhaps be watched, from my understanding of it many in this group might only move forward in terms of their preference a few years by the time they have reached fifty..

My suggestion is that society attempts to deal with all this whilst individuals are still in their teens, the very opposite approach to what is apparently currently the situation in the UK. Do we agree here?

The first moves might be our MP`s, and the head of the secondary schools.

You can say rape here you know.

Where’s your information coming from?

Also. Rape is rape. I certainly would believe my daughter. But it seems to me you are talking about statutory rape? Which is rarely prosecuted when it is a teen relationship?

View "VISION POLICY BRIEFINGS", or simply, speak with young people. Most of this abuse apparently likely occurs outside of the home, and the sixteen to nineteen year olds are suffering more than any other age range. Under sixteens are apparently almost totally off radar. What adults refer to as being abusive they apparently tend to refer to as being merely toxic. I have a young friend, now twenty five, almost all of her relationships to date have been abusive, and they have all been with guys within five years of her age. It is only six months or more after a relationship has ended that I have recovered from her what was the full extent of the abuse. I believe that this abuse is considered almost the norm by a very significant percentage of very young individuals...

There's actually some great material being used in high schools about coercive control and healthy relationships. Will see if I can find the links

@celebritydiscodave what exactly are you defining as abuse? Can you please give some examples?

All of that which would be considered abuse should it be inflicted as an adult. That abuse which can finish up with a child might be as hard to bare no matter the age of that individual on the other side. Stats here are very scarce because parents have been preoccupied with what adults have been getting up to..